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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
December 28 2012 12:31 GMT
#121
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1676 Posts
December 28 2012 12:34 GMT
#122
Best CHRISTMAS GIFT EVER !!!!!!!
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 28 2012 12:34 GMT
#123
On December 28 2012 21:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:26 bo1b wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart. Also note that none of the above mentioned were performing very well when Stephano beat them. MKP is notoriously weak vs zerg atm, MMA sadly is notoriously bad in general atm and Mvp was never known to be an online beast. Mvp is the kind of player who will beat Stephano the hardest in the GSL.

People said that about his earlier strategies, and they took months to really adapt.


Indeed, why? Because he was never playing in Code S and the Koreans pretty much adapt to strategies when they have to face them. Preparing for a weekend tournament is entirely different.
People said Rain was the best player in the world. He went on crazy runs through weekend tournaments and OSL and then? Mvp had enough info to beat him when he had to. That's what happens in GSL.

So the korean protosses he continually stomped couldn't be bothered figuring out an answer because he wasn't in code s? That seems absurd but I could be wrong.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
December 28 2012 12:35 GMT
#124
Best of luck!
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 12:35:53
December 28 2012 12:35 GMT
#125
I'm very interested in Stephano participating in the GSL.
He can show is real skills there, because there he'll only meet the best players.

How can he directly go into Code S and doesn't qualify via Code A or something? Invite?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 28 2012 12:36 GMT
#126
Finally, this has been rumored for so long. Glad it's finally about time!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 12:37:58
December 28 2012 12:37 GMT
#127
(Z)Stephano? wake me up when he gets beaten by (T)Flash
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 12:41:00
December 28 2012 12:38 GMT
#128
On December 28 2012 21:31 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can


Stephano doesn't prepare much for opponents, he's said so himself. He just relies on good, solid gameplay. But that's the thing, every player in Code S could do that. OR they prepare different builds especially designed to beat certain players.
I'd agree that if GSL wasn't preparation based, Stephano would do well. But it is.

On December 28 2012 21:34 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:26 bo1b wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart. Also note that none of the above mentioned were performing very well when Stephano beat them. MKP is notoriously weak vs zerg atm, MMA sadly is notoriously bad in general atm and Mvp was never known to be an online beast. Mvp is the kind of player who will beat Stephano the hardest in the GSL.

People said that about his earlier strategies, and they took months to really adapt.


Indeed, why? Because he was never playing in Code S and the Koreans pretty much adapt to strategies when they have to face them. Preparing for a weekend tournament is entirely different.
People said Rain was the best player in the world. He went on crazy runs through weekend tournaments and OSL and then? Mvp had enough info to beat him when he had to. That's what happens in GSL.

So the korean protosses he continually stomped couldn't be bothered figuring out an answer because he wasn't in code s? That seems absurd but I could be wrong.


You gotta keep in mind that his strategies took some time to be implanted in the korean metagame. Which means korean protosses in their practice weren't instantly facing Stephano's strategies when he came up with them. So basically they'd only face them when they faced Stephano, hence his "stomping". When stuff like the roach max went over to korea, people like HerO and MC had them figured out pretty fast.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#129
On December 28 2012 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:31 sixfour wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can


Stephano doesn't prepare much for opponents, he's said so himself. He just relies on good, solid gameplay. But that's the thing, every player in Code S could do that. OR they prepare different builds especially designed to beat certain players.
I'd agree that if GSL wasn't preparation based, Stephano would do well. But it is.

How do you prepare against someone who can do almost anything?
Stephano's strong point is (in ZvP and ZvT) his ability to have a lot of different builds be can use, which makes it harder to prepare, especially since he's recently decided to mix in roach/hydra zvt.

You can scout, but you need to be bang on with your scouting to make sure you know what's coming, so you don't prepare for the wrong thing.
Being able to prepare is one thing, but Stephano is pretty versatile in his builds, so you can't be entirely sure what might be coming. That's a lot to prepare for.

His weakness is ZvZ, which is likely to hold him back in Korea unless he can "fix" it over the course of his time in GSL.
HOLY CHECK!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
December 28 2012 12:43 GMT
#130
On December 28 2012 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:31 sixfour wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can


Stephano doesn't prepare much for opponents, he's said so himself. He just relies on good, solid gameplay. But that's the thing, every player in Code S could do that. OR they prepare different builds especially designed to beat certain players.
I'd agree that if GSL wasn't preparation based, Stephano would do well. But it is.


oh wow this is terrible
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
December 28 2012 12:43 GMT
#131
On December 28 2012 21:34 Philozovic wrote:
Best CHRISTMAS GIFT EVER !!!!!!!


well this is sad^^ jk

but seriously i hope stephano can take this chance, although I think it would have been better if he had played in the GSL a few months ago. but we'll see.
"What do you know about fear?" -"Everything."
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
December 28 2012 12:43 GMT
#132
Not many zergs in code S next season, he can probably make a splash.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 12:45:49
December 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#133
On December 28 2012 21:41 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:31 sixfour wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can


Stephano doesn't prepare much for opponents, he's said so himself. He just relies on good, solid gameplay. But that's the thing, every player in Code S could do that. OR they prepare different builds especially designed to beat certain players.
I'd agree that if GSL wasn't preparation based, Stephano would do well. But it is.

How do you prepare against someone who can do almost anything?
Stephano's strong point is (in ZvP and ZvT) his ability to have a lot of different builds be can use, which makes it harder to prepare, especially since he's recently decided to mix in roach/hydra zvt.

You can scout, but you need to be bang on with your scouting to make sure you know what's coming, so you don't prepare for the wrong thing.
Being able to prepare is one thing, but Stephano is pretty versatile in his builds, so you can't be entirely sure what might be coming. That's a lot to prepare for.

His weakness is ZvZ, which is likely to hold him back in Korea unless he can "fix" it over the course of his time in GSL.


You really think these Code S koreans can't do "almost everything" either? Stephano is known for ling/infestor, strong lategame often with ultras first and recently his roach/hydra ZvT, just to name a few. People like Mvp will figure out patterns, get into his head, see weaknesses and capitalize.
HerO even figured out ways to abuse Stephano's way of playing from just playing against him in WCS and IPL.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 12:51:19
December 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#134
edit double post meant to edit
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#135
On December 28 2012 21:31 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can


Stephano just thrill in light preparation matches.
And he often said he doesn't like to prepare for matches, feels like there's no point and it does making him play worse for some reason
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
December 28 2012 12:50 GMT
#136
All this childish hate against Stephano in the thread makes me sad. "Oh, I am so pro, I predict that Stephano gets stomped. You know, for me the best koreans are just good enough. I am a big boy now and have a GF."

We should be thankful for Gom that they still offer seeds to foreigners. They do this to attract more viewers, but still those seeds spice up the whole league.

Stephano is a hard-working pro gamer nonetheless. The haters in the forums are just immature nerds who need a hug.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
December 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#137
Well i would have been veeeeeeeeery excited 4 month ago. But stephano is not looking as hot right now. But oh well. I am still pumped and wish him best of luck
~Ryung~Genius~Bomber~Nestea~Liquid_Jinro~Sage~San~jjakji~Boxer~Fantasy~Polt~
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#138
On December 28 2012 19:57 X3GoldDot wrote:
yeah honestly with his form recently thinking he will go out in ro32 unless he gets a really easy group or he just gets out of his slump again


I think it is a bit exaggerated to say that Stephano is in a slump. Obviously he has not been winning anything the last month or so, but that doesn't mean that he is slumping. Remember IPL 5? He finished at 25th-32nd place, which is by no means anywhere near his usual standards. But at the GSL World Championship that was held at the same avenue he almost managed to all-kill team Korea, beating players such as Life (reigning GSL Champion), DRG, MC and Seed (all former GSL Champions), only losing to Squirtle.

He is not doing as well as he used to, but he has been performing fairly good at almost every tournament he has entered while on his so called slump.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#139
On December 28 2012 21:43 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:31 sixfour wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 28 2012 20:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stephano will just get owned. Just check his achievements. What have he done for while? Nothing! Just got owned by mid/low tier pros. Stephano is far away from what he used to be. He will just get owned, that's hard reality.

yeah, beating Mvp, MKP and MMA with a totally new strategy is nothing special...


Well... GSL is different. They'll have time to analyze him and pick him apart.


please explain why stephano can't do the same. also please explain why koreans going to foreign tournaments are at a natural disadvantage as they have no time to gameplan against all likely opponents, yet stephano magically can


Stephano doesn't prepare much for opponents, he's said so himself. He just relies on good, solid gameplay. But that's the thing, every player in Code S could do that. OR they prepare different builds especially designed to beat certain players.
I'd agree that if GSL wasn't preparation based, Stephano would do well. But it is.


oh wow this is terrible


I agree with this reaction to the previous comment; but at the same time I think several people in this thread are underestimating both Code S and Stephano.
mileu
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1 Post
December 28 2012 12:53 GMT
#140
My hope: Stephano wins the GSL as the first foreigner!!! Go for it dude!!!

My prediction: Stephano will get hard stompted and he'll end streaming HotS like Lz, Machine and Idra...
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