EPT[IPL5] Naniwa's Kit Stolen - Page 3
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:49 KawaiiRice wrote: Lol imagine if the thief turns it in and gets a hundred dollars or something. Crime.rates at mlgs gonna skyrocket I already got my mousepad stolen at columbus.. Which is honestly really weird. They aren't worth money at all, lol.. | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1927 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:59 S_SienZ wrote: The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations. As I said, this is a logical contradiction/not sound logic - it's literally just something bound to our words. In no way can a victim be "responsible" because to be a victim is to not be in control to what aggressions you have faced. To your example, this is of course under the assumption that the context of the situation in which the person is placed isn't deceptive. What I mean by this is, if Naniwa was ignorant of the fact that a theft could occur, or that he was innocently drawn to an area that turned out to be problematic then what you said doesn't really compare to what I was talking about. The example you gave is entirely choice based in an area where a theft can easily occur; in contrast to naniwa who more than likely did not voluntarily choose an area in which his stuff could be stolen from. What I'm getting at here is if he was somewhere like in the player area when this happened then it really can't be naniwa's fault because he was led to believe that area was secure. However his stuff was still stolen anyway and the choice he had in the matter was only "take my stuff with me" or "don't take my stuff with me because it's in a secure area already". Seemingly, the second choice is just as safe as the first, but the second gives you more freedom. Anyone can tell you walking around an event without carrying all your stuff is much more enjoyable. :/ | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On December 03 2012 01:37 -Kyo- wrote: The example you gave is entirely choice based in an area where a theft can easily occur; in contrast to naniwa who more than likely did not voluntarily choose an area in which his stuff could be stolen from. What I'm getting at here is if he was somewhere like in the player area when this happened then it really can't be naniwa's fault because he was led to believe that area was secure. However his stuff was still stolen anyway and the choice he had in the matter was only "take my stuff with me" or "don't take my stuff with me because it's in a secure area already". Seemingly, the second choice is just as safe as the first, but the second gives you more freedom. Anyone can tell you walking around an event without carrying all your stuff is much more enjoyable. While I do agree with this line of reasoning, trust me, if you were raised in a very traditional Asian household, regarding that VERY choice you would not hear the end of it from your parents if you chose the latter  You're kinda brought up to be paranoid in that sense, til this day even when I live overseas I'm uncomfortable to even leave the house when hired help comes around to clean. | ||
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nooboon
2602 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote: That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen. ....On the flip side we could also blame IPL for compromising the saftey of one of their competitors belongings. Naniwa went there with the expectation that IPL would keep his stuff safe when he is not there. The thief just saw an an oppurtunity and took it, nothing wrong with what the theif did, it was IPL and Naniwa not being careful enough. *end sarcasm* | ||
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Miragee
8716 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:59 S_SienZ wrote: So if I leave my debit card in a card machine by accident and walk off, and the store keeper takes it, I'm not even partially at fault? Even if you'd argue I'm not at fault in the focal sense of the word, it would still be fucking stupid on my part. The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations. Exactly. In a good world, no one would even pretend to steal something from other persons... So this is how ethics work, they seem to be broken if someone steals. That's not the fault of the victim in any case ethic wise because the fault is what is going on the the thiefs head. However if you're not naiv you know that the human race is a great bunch of asholes and probably should take care of your own things (and maybe others as well). | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote: That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen. Thank you for the license to steal all your shit. Better keep a good eye on it buddy. | ||
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
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SCMethod
United States40 Posts
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Riquiz
Netherlands402 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On December 03 2012 03:18 Lazzi wrote: Having his stuiff stolen as a pro is awful, it like saying for Messi " Okay today you'll with your right leg on the left and the left one on the right. Good luck." It just make the player so much less confortable in his games. Pretty apt analogy considering Naniwa is left-handed and uses left hand mouse. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote: That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen. You sir, are an idiot. Maybe Naniwa could have helped prevent it by paying more attention to his equipment, but it is completely the fault of the person who decided to take it... | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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lhr0909
United States562 Posts
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zestzorb
Thailand776 Posts
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote: It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner. edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~ I'm Asian and I don't find it normal to put the blame on the victim. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
But hey, on the bright side, he might have something to blame if he starts to play like shit ;p | ||
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