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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 02 2012 15:41 GMT
#21
It sucks, but I think he''ll not even have to pay for a new stuff.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Dbla08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 15:46:12
December 02 2012 15:45 GMT
#22
some people without any guiding ethics *cough*msr*cough* are full of shit, that's a cop out to not care about people's stuff and i'm willing to bet those people haven't ever had something valuable stolen from them. if you set something down, turn to sign something, and turn back and you're shit's gone, that's just people being thieves and it's not justifiable. on a side note, i agree with the very archaic way of dealing with thieves, cut their hands off.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
December 02 2012 15:48 GMT
#23
On December 03 2012 00:45 Dbla08 wrote:
some people without any guiding ethics *cough*msr*cough* are full of shit, that's a cop out to not care about people's stuff and i'm willing to bet those people haven't ever had something valuable stolen from them. if you set something down, turn to sign something, and turn back and you're shit's gone, that's just people being thieves and it's not justifiable. on a side note, i agree with the very archaic way of dealing with thieves, cut their hands off.

lol ok.

How "ethical" of you.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 02 2012 15:49 GMT
#24
Lol imagine if the thief turns it in and gets a hundred dollars or something. Crime.rates at mlgs gonna skyrocket
@KawaiiRiceLighT
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 15:51:18
December 02 2012 15:51 GMT
#25
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


XD "normal" ethics is not blaming a victim when something bad has happened to them like a theft, you don't know of any of the specific circumstances and you're making stupid assumptions.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
December 02 2012 15:53 GMT
#26
On December 03 2012 00:51 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


XD "normal" ethics is not blaming a victim when something bad has happened to them like a theft, you don't know of any of the specific circumstances and you're making stupid assumptions.

Isn't assuming it was a theft equally presumptive? How many of us here were actually there?
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
December 02 2012 15:53 GMT
#27
On December 03 2012 00:13 Al Bundy wrote:
Not sure if it deserves a thread but hey what do I know




it really doesn't but Naniwa is one my favorite protoss players.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 15:55:07
December 02 2012 15:54 GMT
#28
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


Yeah, I don't think you have any clue of ethical theory if you think it's "normal" for the victim to be the person at fault. I can't think of a single ethics viewpoint that paints a victim at fault. What you're claiming is synonymous to Fox news claiming that the person who got raped was asking to get raped for x reason. Which makes zero sense because regardless of the means to which the rape occurred... the person was still raped.. The word itself is literally victimization. Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault. I mean, unless you want to change the linguistics and connotations to words your argument seems pretty illogical.

That all said, hopefully he does get his stuff back. It can be really troublesome to deal with this sort of thing in a pressured environment, especially when the other sets for WC are tonight. ;~;
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 02 2012 15:55 GMT
#29
What a lowlife that steals someone's working equipment that's still needed this weekend.
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dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
December 02 2012 15:56 GMT
#30
On December 03 2012 00:54 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


Yeah, I don't think you have any clue of ethical theory if you think it's "normal" for the victim to be the person at fault. I can't think of a single ethics viewpoint that paints a victim at fault. What you're claiming is synonymous to Fox news claiming that the person who got raped was asking to get raped for x reason. Which makes zero sense because regardless of the means to which the rape occurred... the person was still raped.. The word itself is literally victimization. Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault. I mean, unless you want to change the linguistics and connotations to words your argument seems pretty illogical.

That all said, hopefully he does get his stuff back. It can be really troublesome to deal with this sort of thing in a pressured environment, especially when the other sets for WC are tonight. ;~;


rape and lost property that can easily be protected is totally different. If he kept him with him no one coulda stole it i think thats what he meant.
yes
Tennoji
Profile Joined November 2010
78 Posts
December 02 2012 15:57 GMT
#31
On December 03 2012 00:45 Dbla08 wrote:
some people without any guiding ethics *cough*msr*cough* are full of shit, that's a cop out to not care about people's stuff and i'm willing to bet those people haven't ever had something valuable stolen from them. if you set something down, turn to sign something, and turn back and you're shit's gone, that's just people being thieves and it's not justifiable. on a side note, i agree with the very archaic way of dealing with thieves, cut their hands off.


You are probably right, those people never had anything valuable stolen from them... But that's just because they are watching their valuables, thanks for proving their point...
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 16:00:49
December 02 2012 15:59 GMT
#32
On December 03 2012 00:54 -Kyo- wrote:
Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault.

So if I leave my debit card in a card machine by accident and walk off, and the store keeper takes it, I'm not even partially at fault? Even if you'd argue I'm not at fault in the focal sense of the word, it would still be fucking stupid on my part.

The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations.

On December 03 2012 00:56 dde wrote:
rape and lost property that can easily be protected is totally different. If he kept him with him no one coulda stole it i think thats what he meant.

Exactly.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 16:01:37
December 02 2012 15:59 GMT
#33
I'm not a Naniwa fan at all but I think that, if someone stole his stuff, that's pretty horrible. I hope he gets it back, though the odds are probably against it.

And as for people saying they think it's his fault, absent information about the precise specifics of what happened, you can't argue that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 16:01:18
December 02 2012 16:00 GMT
#34
On December 03 2012 00:53 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:13 Al Bundy wrote:
Not sure if it deserves a thread but hey what do I know




it really doesn't but Naniwa is one my favorite protoss players.

He's one of my favorites too Very unfortunate situation
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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
December 02 2012 16:06 GMT
#35
Stealing someones keyboard and mouse is the last thing I would ever do. Do they not realize what is on those damn things(think body fluid)?
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
December 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#36
On December 03 2012 00:53 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:51 BlueLanterna wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


XD "normal" ethics is not blaming a victim when something bad has happened to them like a theft, you don't know of any of the specific circumstances and you're making stupid assumptions.

Isn't assuming it was a theft equally presumptive? How many of us here were actually there?

Naniwa himself said it was stolen. How is taking the word of someone who actually was there presumptive?
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 16:10:41
December 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#37
On December 03 2012 00:51 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


XD "normal" ethics is not blaming a victim when something bad has happened to them like a theft, you don't know of any of the specific circumstances and you're making stupid assumptions.


lol I said it's pretty normal ethics for Asian, isn't it tl;dr ? Read it over kid

edit: oh well, i don't know how about your place, but it's common to say it over here
@taefoxy
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
December 02 2012 16:08 GMT
#38
On December 03 2012 00:15 YosHGo wrote:
Now thats rly awful... However back in the day i always kept my bag with gear on me, exactly for this reason. I think this was some hater of naniwa who didnt even care about the equipment, he just wanted to fuck over with naniwa... Sounds like redditors did it :D

you really shouldn't label an entire community like that, reddit has done some good stuff and theres alot of good people there just like this site, there are some bad apples

hope he gets it back and punches the person who did it in the face
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
December 02 2012 16:10 GMT
#39
On December 03 2012 01:07 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 00:53 S_SienZ wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:51 BlueLanterna wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.

Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics.

It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner.

edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~


XD "normal" ethics is not blaming a victim when something bad has happened to them like a theft, you don't know of any of the specific circumstances and you're making stupid assumptions.

Isn't assuming it was a theft equally presumptive? How many of us here were actually there?

Naniwa himself said it was stolen. How is taking the word of someone who actually was there presumptive?

Ah I could've sworn the 2nd tweet wasn't edited in yet at the time. Was basing this off the 1st IGN tweet, as it only said "gone missing".
ImustnotfeaR
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom154 Posts
December 02 2012 16:10 GMT
#40
they will prob turn up on ebay
'Fear is the mind killer'
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