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On November 20 2012 20:57 TimENT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:54 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:49 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:44 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:40 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Rofl, bow down to King Browder and the wonder group, Blizzard. Cloud is right, they are LOST Yea and some gold leaguer is gonna tell them different right? You got no clue, have you? Dustin probaly knows a shitton more than you will ever be able to fathom. So why jump on the hate train? Blizzard is adressing alot of the problems in a manner that requires deep analytical process. It's not just as easy as you think it is. Just because you think he's wrong, doesn't make it fucking so. ALOT of pros and top players agree with the problems dustin adresses here and so forth. Hence why the questions are the way they are. Personal insults...check False info...check I'm sure pros agree with some of the issues, just none of the solutions and they are missing the design problems here. Stop blindly worshipping this false god in Blizzard Except for the fact that blizzard is in close contact with the pro community on balance changes. Most of this stuff actually comes from pro feedback. That's why they are TESTING CHANGES.. do u know what that means? TESTING? Also, they are trying to adress alot of the design problems in HOTS, and a few minor ones in WoL. If you're such a boss at balancing top e-sports rts games, why arent you hired then? Mr. Know-it-all. Because you're probaly a silver leaguer. Anyway. Blizzard has already acknowledged that there are some design problems, and they are actively trying to adress it best way they can. Nobody is perfect. Gold leaguer, silver leaguer...which one is it man!? Blizzard isn't it close contact with pros at all. They should be talking to Korean pros, and that's it.
Yea you're right.. you're absolutely right man.. you got it all figured out? It's just blizz and dustin who are retarded.. But not you. You got it all wrapped up.. Tell you what bro.. why don't you make a 50 page report, on how to perfectly fix starcraft 2 then ? from a design and balance standpoint? I would like to see your suggestions. Honestly, you can just PM me the report or post on b.net.
I'm done talking to you. Because talking to you actually lowers my IQ substantially. That's how unintelligent your arguments are.
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On November 20 2012 20:41 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Nope they aren't and it's so clean from every interview they release. DB saying Terrans are losing because of culture and immortal all in / late game pvz not being an issue even after having statistics proving it wrong thrown right in his face =/= Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing.
So what's your explanation of why korean terrans always have (and still have) experienced arguably more success than P or Z? Just luck? I guess blaming blizzard is a convenient way to ignore the fact that maybe foreigners just don't have the skill to use terran to their full potential.
Also wish everyone would calm down regarding infestor changes; they didn't say all will meet the final cut and some are WoL and some HOTS.
And I assume when they say 'immunity to fungal' they mean the root effect; sentries and such will still take damage from it.
I know zerg love their infestors but I don't know how they can argue against the fact that are far to versatile a unit, and BL/infestor every PvZ has done nothing but make the match-up dry.
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On November 20 2012 20:57 MasterFischer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:52 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:49 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:41 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Nope they aren't and it's so clean from every interview they release. DB saying Terrans are losing because of culture and immortal all in / late game pvz not being an issue even after having statistics proving it wrong thrown right in his face =/= Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. It IS because of cultural differences you clutz. foreign Terran has always been bad. WAtch the Idra interview, he says the same thing basically... Korean Terran has always been strong. WAtch GSL CODE S.... There are 9003492304 terrans in there, all top players in the world. They are just not in WCS, cos they had other things to do, or had a bad day and got an upset.. doesnt mean that they couldnt win WCS as Terran.. Terran needs help, and they are gonna get it, but it's not as bad as people think. No. It's not 'cultural' It's cause Terran is hard to play. Foreign toss and Zerg exist because of fungal growth, infested Terran, warp gate, colossi, and storm. Terran is unforgiving to the nth degree. Terran doesn't need help, Zerg and Protoss need to be made infinitely harder to play, but not worse Terran is hard to play? Or are the players just bad? This would mean, that, if u buffed terran somewaht, or nerfed toss and zerg. We would be seeing korean Terran win every gsl and WCS etc.. because terran is now alot easier to play, and since korean terran is aleady very good.. they would be impossible to beat now... that's what you're saying 
You really think its just that foreign Terrans are just bad...? Like seriously? You don't see why there are about 300 foreign zergs, 30 foreign toss, and 3 foreign Terran? You make no connection there? And I didn't say 'nerf' or 'buff' anywhere
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On November 20 2012 20:40 DeadByDawn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 19:04 DaveVAH wrote:
Monk you spent 90% of the interview talking about and asking questions about P and Z, you let Dustin skip on his brood-lord infester answer on the TvZ MU (only ZvZ and PvZ broodlord infester usage was discussed).
Does terran not exist anymore or something? how about some questions on mech in TvP hots?
We need more objectivity in these interviews. I am glad that someone else noticed this. Seems Dustin talked about Terran almost unprompted as Monk was very PvZ and ZvZ focused. I wonder what Monk plays?
It's mostly because PvZ is the match-up everyone is discussing/worried about atm. I tried to include questions that I see most often discussed in the TL forums, and I think I did a good job with that. There aren't really as many heavily discussed balance-related issues in TvZ atm except late game versus infestor/broodlord. A few months ago after the queen/overlord buff, I would have asked more about TvZ. I will say, however, that I should have pressed him more on TvZ vs infestor/broodlord, but I honestly didn't realize he skipped out on the TvZ aspect of the question.
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On November 20 2012 20:59 MasterFischer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:57 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:54 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:49 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:44 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:40 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Rofl, bow down to King Browder and the wonder group, Blizzard. Cloud is right, they are LOST Yea and some gold leaguer is gonna tell them different right? You got no clue, have you? Dustin probaly knows a shitton more than you will ever be able to fathom. So why jump on the hate train? Blizzard is adressing alot of the problems in a manner that requires deep analytical process. It's not just as easy as you think it is. Just because you think he's wrong, doesn't make it fucking so. ALOT of pros and top players agree with the problems dustin adresses here and so forth. Hence why the questions are the way they are. Personal insults...check False info...check I'm sure pros agree with some of the issues, just none of the solutions and they are missing the design problems here. Stop blindly worshipping this false god in Blizzard Except for the fact that blizzard is in close contact with the pro community on balance changes. Most of this stuff actually comes from pro feedback. That's why they are TESTING CHANGES.. do u know what that means? TESTING? Also, they are trying to adress alot of the design problems in HOTS, and a few minor ones in WoL. If you're such a boss at balancing top e-sports rts games, why arent you hired then? Mr. Know-it-all. Because you're probaly a silver leaguer. Anyway. Blizzard has already acknowledged that there are some design problems, and they are actively trying to adress it best way they can. Nobody is perfect. Gold leaguer, silver leaguer...which one is it man!? Blizzard isn't it close contact with pros at all. They should be talking to Korean pros, and that's it. Yea you're right.. you're absolutely right man.. you got it all figured out? It's just blizz and dustin who are retarded.. But not you. You got it all wrapped up.. Tell you what bro.. why don't you make a 50 page report, on how to perfectly fix starcraft 2 then ? from a design and balance standpoint? I would like to see your suggestions. Honestly, you can just PM me the report or post on b.net. I'm done talking to you. Because talking to you actually lowers my IQ substantially. That's how unintelligent your arguments are.
Damn you should be a politician man! Just insult after insult after insult after insult! And your arguments don't make sense. Should run for president in the US. People would love to watch debates with you in them.
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On November 20 2012 19:42 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 19:37 thezanursic wrote:
Believes Immortal/Sentry All-in can be solved by Zerg players without Blizzard intervention /facepalm x several times Why don't you think it can be solved? The 1/1/1 in PvT was super strong for a while and protoss eventually figured out how to deal with it.
Uhm protoss players also got buffs and terran many nerfs before you "figured it out"
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riiiight, ...
haha nice interview and I really do like Browders approach on things.
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On November 20 2012 20:55 FakeDeath wrote:
They recognized late-game PvZ is a problem but not the Immortal/Sentry all-in and believed that it can be solved by zergs?
The Immortal Sentry is equivalent of the 1/1/1 now seeing the insane win-rate protoss with that build.
Immortal Sentry has been prevalent for a while, it would have been solved by the top Korean pros if that was the case.
But it hasn't been solved at all and it is still ridiculously strong.
1/1/1 has been solved(coupled with Immortal 1 range buff).
Protoss finally know how to deal with it 1/1/1 is literally obsolete.
DB clearly states that if zergs play a bit more safe they will punish that build. Let's not kid ourselves, zergs have learned to play extremely greedy vs P, starting with a quick 3rd and then power to 50-60 drones. You can't saturate 3 bases and then max out on roaches around 12', and not expect to get punished for it.
Great interview. Currently playing the HOTS beta and I think they are doing a great job. The only issue I have (and DB says it's going to be fixed) is with the terran race in HOTS, specifically how boring it looks. Not to mention the ridiculously powerful yet dirt cheap hellbats. Everything else looks ace.
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He's saying all the right things, the thought process seems sound but some of the conclusions just don't follow.
"Here's 3 good reasons fungal slowth would be great and exciting, but we don't think it changes that much. So we'll do something else..." errrmmm....... But all is not lost.
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On November 20 2012 21:00 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:41 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Nope they aren't and it's so clean from every interview they release. DB saying Terrans are losing because of culture and immortal all in / late game pvz not being an issue even after having statistics proving it wrong thrown right in his face =/= Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. So what's your explanation of why korean terrans always have (and still have) experienced arguably more success than P or Z? Just luck? I guess blaming blizzard is a convenient way to ignore the fact that maybe foreigners just don't have the skill to use terran to their full potential. Also wish everyone would calm down regarding infestor changes; they didn't say all will meet the final cut and some are WoL and some HOTS. And I assume when they say 'immunity to fungal' they mean the root effect; sentries and such will still take damage from it. I know zerg love their infestors but I don't know how they can argue against the fact that are far to versatile a unit, and BL/infestor every PvZ has done nothing but make the match-up dry.
What Dustin Browder and David Kim fail to realize (and I can see this from every interview they release such as this one) is that it's also important to balance the difficulty of the game for every race, not just the balance at the very top level (which is constantly changing anyway). If you manage to get all the races close to the same execution and strategical difficulty then the better players will always shine more and the games will naturally be more interesting to watch.
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I soooooooooooo exited about all these changes, i think it's the first time since WoL beta that i completely agree with blizzard patch !
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On November 20 2012 21:01 monk. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:40 DeadByDawn wrote:On November 20 2012 19:04 DaveVAH wrote:
Monk you spent 90% of the interview talking about and asking questions about P and Z, you let Dustin skip on his brood-lord infester answer on the TvZ MU (only ZvZ and PvZ broodlord infester usage was discussed).
Does terran not exist anymore or something? how about some questions on mech in TvP hots?
We need more objectivity in these interviews. I am glad that someone else noticed this. Seems Dustin talked about Terran almost unprompted as Monk was very PvZ and ZvZ focused. I wonder what Monk plays? It's mostly because PvZ is the match-up everyone is discussing/worried about atm. I tried to include questions that I see most often discussed in the TL forums, and I think I did a good job with that. There aren't really as many heavily discussed balance-related issues in TvZ atm except late game versus infestor/broodlord. A few months ago after the queen/overlord buff, I would have asked more about TvZ. I will say, however, that I should have pressed him more on TvZ vs infestor/broodlord, but I honestly didn't realize he skipped out on the TvZ aspect of the question.
Because that's the only matchup you see anymore lol.
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On November 20 2012 20:54 MasterFischer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:49 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:44 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:40 TimENT wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Rofl, bow down to King Browder and the wonder group, Blizzard. Cloud is right, they are LOST Yea and some gold leaguer is gonna tell them different right? You got no clue, have you? Dustin probaly knows a shitton more than you will ever be able to fathom. So why jump on the hate train? Blizzard is adressing alot of the problems in a manner that requires deep analytical process. It's not just as easy as you think it is. Just because you think he's wrong, doesn't make it fucking so. ALOT of pros and top players agree with the problems dustin adresses here and so forth. Hence why the questions are the way they are. Personal insults...check False info...check I'm sure pros agree with some of the issues, just none of the solutions and they are missing the design problems here. Stop blindly worshipping this false god in Blizzard Except for the fact that blizzard is in close contact with the pro community on balance changes. Most of this stuff actually comes from pro feedback. That's why they are TESTING CHANGES.. do u know what that means? TESTING? Also, they are trying to adress alot of the design problems in HOTS, and a few minor ones in WoL. If you're such a boss at balancing top e-sports rts games, why arent you hired then? Mr. Know-it-all. Because you're probaly a silver leaguer. Anyway. Blizzard has already acknowledged that there are some design problems, and they are actively trying to adress it best way they can. Nobody is perfect.
Some of the pro community has gone full on idiot mode when it comes to balancing, and it's pretty obvious that they don't know any better. The VR change for example which started all this deathballing bullshit is the #1 example of this. Terran players were complaining that they couldn't open 1-1-1 expand against P, even though I told various pros that they should open 1 rax/2 rax and much more Marine heavy, because P players were punishing T players for greedy play with VR play.
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On November 20 2012 21:10 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:00 Ryder. wrote:On November 20 2012 20:41 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Nope they aren't and it's so clean from every interview they release. DB saying Terrans are losing because of culture and immortal all in / late game pvz not being an issue even after having statistics proving it wrong thrown right in his face =/= Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. So what's your explanation of why korean terrans always have (and still have) experienced arguably more success than P or Z? Just luck? I guess blaming blizzard is a convenient way to ignore the fact that maybe foreigners just don't have the skill to use terran to their full potential. Also wish everyone would calm down regarding infestor changes; they didn't say all will meet the final cut and some are WoL and some HOTS. And I assume when they say 'immunity to fungal' they mean the root effect; sentries and such will still take damage from it. I know zerg love their infestors but I don't know how they can argue against the fact that are far to versatile a unit, and BL/infestor every PvZ has done nothing but make the match-up dry. What Dustin Browder and David Kim fail to realize (and I can see this from every interview they release such as this one) is that it's also important to balance the difficulty of the game for every race, not just the balance at the very top level (which is constantly changing anyway). If you manage to get all the races close to the same execution and strategical difficulty then the better players will always shine more and the games will naturally be more interesting to watch.
How's that?
I'm pretty darn sure there were many interviews where Blizzard addressed exactly this, balancing not just for the very top but also everyone else. In fact, they've always gotten flak for that by guys like you who try to twist really anything they say into something to look down upon.
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On November 20 2012 21:10 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:00 Ryder. wrote:On November 20 2012 20:41 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:38 MasterFischer wrote:On November 20 2012 20:25 aTnClouD wrote:On November 20 2012 20:21 Rannasha wrote:
What's missing in the summary is that Dustin Browder said the word "right" 121 times (give or take a few due to miscounting) during the 32 minute interview. That's once every 16 seconds, including the time that monk was doing the talking.
That's crazy, right? Just shows a lot of insecurity, cause they don't really have a clue about what to do anymore and they are crumbling under the pressure of people who want better than we have now. Yea and I bet you could do an immensely better job, riiight? Dumbass. Stop the hating and flaming. Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. And it's going in the right direction and always has. Stop being part of the problem. Nope they aren't and it's so clean from every interview they release. DB saying Terrans are losing because of culture and immortal all in / late game pvz not being an issue even after having statistics proving it wrong thrown right in his face =/= Blizz and dustin knows what they're doing. So what's your explanation of why korean terrans always have (and still have) experienced arguably more success than P or Z? Just luck? I guess blaming blizzard is a convenient way to ignore the fact that maybe foreigners just don't have the skill to use terran to their full potential. Also wish everyone would calm down regarding infestor changes; they didn't say all will meet the final cut and some are WoL and some HOTS. And I assume when they say 'immunity to fungal' they mean the root effect; sentries and such will still take damage from it. I know zerg love their infestors but I don't know how they can argue against the fact that are far to versatile a unit, and BL/infestor every PvZ has done nothing but make the match-up dry. What Dustin Browder and David Kim fail to realize (and I can see this from every interview they release such as this one) is that it's also important to balance the difficulty of the game for every race, not just the balance at the very top level (which is constantly changing anyway). If you manage to get all the races close to the same execution and strategical difficulty then the better players will always shine more and the games will naturally be more interesting to watch.
I can see where you are coming from, but over time as the game develops players are going to get closer and closer to the skill cap naturally, meaning that what is still most important is the balance of the game when played at the highest level, so changing the difficulty of the races is merely a temporary solution that becomes redundant as the skill of players increase anyway. Many korean pros picked terran because they thought it had the highest skill cap and consequently would be the best race when played to perfection, which seems like a better attitude than complaining that terran is too hard to play... Note I do think the difficulty of each race should be approximately equal, and that all races should have a high skill cap, but that is purely because it would be uninteresting if the races weren't reasonably evenly distributed, and not because of people complaining that their race takes too much skill to unlock its full potential.
Edit BTW when Browder said its a 'cultural issue' I'm pretty sure that he meant exactly what you are saying; foreigner's simply are unable to use terran as well as koreans. He wasn't saying it has anything to do with balance..
Btw wasn't protoss considered the 'easiest race' in BW? It doesn't seem to tarnish people's views on BW, so why is it so important in SC2?
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I think that the new test map might favor protoss a bit especially since archons can't be fungled and that will open up dt play, some archon timings and a better late game.
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On November 20 2012 20:35 Millet wrote:I like this interview a lot. I liked most of what I heard. However, I do not agree with slow on fungal "wouldn't do anything" it would nerf chain fungal, which is one of the core problems with this spell. If you catch a group of high health, small units, they would be able to split their units instead of definitely losing them to chain fungal. It also allows for more exciting gameplay. Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:13 blug wrote:
I'm quite shocked no one is making a bigger deal about Zerg not needing an evo chamber for Spore Crawlers. Should of asked Dustin about that xD (Maybe he did, if he did I wasn't paying attention..) That's because it's not a big deal, at all. Any decent zerg is going to have an evo chamber anyway (for upgrades) by the time any cloaked or air threat is present. This is not a big deal at all. The only reason for this change is because zergs need an ability to deal with early widow mines. That's it.
It is though, because now stargate techs and DTs will be that much harder to do. Not all zergs open early evo chamber, some like to power drone. So greedy zergs will get away with more.
I've lost many games having no evo chamber, so have many other zergs.
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On November 20 2012 21:07 Inex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:55 FakeDeath wrote:
They recognized late-game PvZ is a problem but not the Immortal/Sentry all-in and believed that it can be solved by zergs?
The Immortal Sentry is equivalent of the 1/1/1 now seeing the insane win-rate protoss with that build.
Immortal Sentry has been prevalent for a while, it would have been solved by the top Korean pros if that was the case.
But it hasn't been solved at all and it is still ridiculously strong.
1/1/1 has been solved(coupled with Immortal 1 range buff).
Protoss finally know how to deal with it 1/1/1 is literally obsolete. DB clearly states that if zergs play a bit more safe they will punish that build. Let's not kid ourselves, zergs have learned to play extremely greedy vs P, starting with a quick 3rd and then power to 50-60 drones. You can't saturate 3 bases and then max out on roaches around 12', and not expect to get punished for it.
Well, whatelse should a Zerg do against a FFE? Stay on two bases? I don't think that would be a good idea to be honest :-P
Zerg start off with a quick third because they need it to not be completely destroyed imo. Everything beside a fast third base requiree the Zerg to punish the Protoss somehow and... That's pretty damn hard against a FFE.
The problems in this entire Match up are infestors and sentries. Solve thse design issues and everything will be fine.
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On November 20 2012 19:20 monk. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 19:04 DaveVAH wrote:
Monk you spent 90% of the interview talking about and asking questions about P and Z, you let Dustin skip on his brood-lord infester answer on the TvZ MU (only ZvZ and PvZ broodlord infester usage was discussed).
Does terran not exist anymore or something? how about some questions on mech in TvP hots?
We need more objectivity in these interviews. But I'm wearing a Terran Shirt!
Is that supposed to be funny? That was a serious observation.
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Pretty good interview. DB was persuasive. I think Blizzard might in fact have some idea of what they're doing.
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