• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:38
CET 19:38
KST 03:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)8Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)12Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Recent recommended BW games [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Ask and answer stupid questions here! US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2181 users

Map Pool for 2012 GSL Season 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
272 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 01:28:16
October 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#1
The map pool for the upcoming season of GSL has been announced.
Ohana has been removed and replaced with a brand new map, Bel'Shir Vestige (벨시르 잔재) by Crux_EastWindy. The map pool change will occur starting from Code S Round of 32.

2012 GSL Season 5 Map Pool (listed in order as specified in announcement)
GSL Whirlwind
GSL Cloud Kingdom
GSL Entombed Valley
GSL Antiga Shipyard
GSL Daybreak
GSL Abyssal City
GSL Bel'Shir Vestige

New map: GSL Bel'Shir Vestige, by Crux_EastWindy

[image loading]

2 Player Map
Tileset: Bel'Shir (Jungle)
Size: 124×144
Starting locations at 5 and 11 o'clock
All expansions 8m 2g except for the central two expansions which are 5m 1g (standard yield)

Description (Translation from the announcement): Bel'Shir Vestige has main paths located on the two central hills with a faster road available through the center when the destructible rocks are destroyed. As the game progresses the Xel'Naga watch towers see increased usage so it is expected that engagements will occur focused on control of the center of the map, but as there are detours available one cannot become complacent even with such control. Battles in the center of the map between main armies as well as multi-pronged attacks through the detours can be expected from this map.

Source: kr.gomtv.net Forum Announcement, supplemented with details from the original map publication post on PlayXP
Facebook Twitter Reddit
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
October 23 2012 12:16 GMT
#2
That map seems really interesting, and the fact that the both low min / gas expos are in the middle, gives a bit more dynamic into the game, hope this map goes well
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
Apack
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada159 Posts
October 23 2012 12:18 GMT
#3
So we'll see these maps on ladder in like, 6 or 7 months then
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51540 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 12:19:21
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#4
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?
Commentator
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#5
wow, pretty map. looking forward to it! hope players can adapt quickly.

replacing ohana, hrm.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#6
Out with the old and in with the new, I've seen enough games on Ohana/Daybreak/Cloud Kingdom/Antiga/Entombed Valley for a lifetime.

I guess it would be too big of a change to switch them all at once.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#7
Yes Ohana IS FINALLY REMOVED.

No more autowin for toss on that against zerg.
Play your best
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#8
On October 23 2012 21:19 GTR wrote:
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?


Well Ohana is super fucking boring.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 23 2012 12:23 GMT
#9
Can we get a map without Xel'Naga Towers?
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 23 2012 12:24 GMT
#10
On October 23 2012 21:19 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 21:19 GTR wrote:
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?


Well Ohana is super fucking boring.

But it means family. Moving to a larger map again, feels to large map centric to me.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 23 2012 12:25 GMT
#11
Fuck yeah, ohana is gone. Pretty map, godawfully boring games. Still no muspelheim though T_T New map looks very interesting, to say the least! This oughta shake things up.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
October 23 2012 12:25 GMT
#12
OMG I read it like it's the next ladder season map pool and got so excited...
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#13
new map looks like a slightly tweaked ohana that's a bit bigger, with more airspace as well as highground reminiscent of crossfire haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 12:26:54
October 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#14
How much longer Antiga will stay in the map pool. Games are boring on Antiga.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
October 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#15
Hm, I want to test this map. It's only uploaded on KR at the moment?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 23 2012 12:27 GMT
#16
On October 23 2012 21:26 NightOfTheDead wrote:
How more longer Antiga will stay in the map pool. Games are boring on Antiga.


Disagreed, cross position Antiga is one of the better maps in the pool because it allows for more aggressive play. Broodlords also don't work as well on antiga as on other maps, which is good as well.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 23 2012 12:28 GMT
#17
oh thank god. finally a thread without slayers

I'm not so sure about the middle rocks/XN towers position of Vestige. It came more natural at daybreak. This highground towers together with the fact that it seems like an up vs down situation there in contrast to the left/right on Daybreak make me wonder if this feature will be successful.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
October 23 2012 12:29 GMT
#18
On October 23 2012 21:26 Yello wrote:
Hm, I want to test this map. It's only uploaded on KR at the moment?

I would assume so, yes. EastWindy hasn't posted this map on TL, and GomTV is not exactly known for posting maps on other servers, so...
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 12:34:59
October 23 2012 12:29 GMT
#19
On October 23 2012 21:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 21:26 NightOfTheDead wrote:
How more longer Antiga will stay in the map pool. Games are boring on Antiga.


Disagreed, cross position Antiga is one of the better maps in the pool because it allows for more aggressive play. Broodlords also don't work as well on antiga as on other maps, which is good as well.


True, but it also means the same old 3 base center control winning the game if the game goes longer.
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:50:46
October 23 2012 12:30 GMT
#20
I don't think Toss can beat a zerg on this map

Edit: Hang on, does anyone see this as Daybreak, except the spawns have been swapped with bottom left to top left, and top right to bottom right? Its like the whole map has been rotated 90 degrees.

Rocks in the middle, xelnaga giving sight of the rocks, a pocket 3rd just outside the nat, a 3rd long the side, a 4th further down from the 3rd, etc etc


Edit2:
for those who think one line answers are always off the cuff

On October 24 2012 02:14 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 21:30 Arachne wrote:
I don't think Toss can beat a zerg on this map

Edit: Hang on, does anyone see this as Daybreak, except the spawns have been swapped with bottom left to top left, and top right to bottom right? Its like the whole map has been rotated 90 degrees.

Rocks in the middle, xelnaga giving sight of the rocks, a pocket 3rd just outside the nat, a 3rd long the side, a 4th further down from the 3rd, etc etc


1. See a map for the first time
2. Making sweeping generalization

Excellent!

Map looks great and the pool is fantastic overall. I am a Z and I hate Antiga but I know it can create some interesting games -- not every map needs to favor us.


See map 1st time, Look at map, look at ramps, see multiple large access points to where protoss's 3rd can be, analyze likelihood of toss making mutiple 4 gateway walls, cross reference with the distance of the natural's minerals to the main's minerals to the likely location of the 3rd, and the distance to those mineral's, predict Muta from zerg most games vs toss, see toss scrambling to hold muta play, leaving two base timings as the stronger option, realize that toss 2 base timings have been mostly figured out, even the dreaded 2 base sentry immo push,

make sweeping generalization.
If I were a rich man, I wouldn't be here
1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Grubby 3498
mouzHeroMarine 599
UpATreeSC 115
IndyStarCraft 100
BRAT_OK 98
SteadfastSC 21
ForJumy 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32091
Calm 2646
Rain 1944
Jaedong 1509
Shuttle 1241
Larva 756
Stork 458
Soma 331
Light 303
Rush 239
[ Show more ]
Mini 129
Sharp 109
Movie 73
Zeus 69
Liquid`Ret 59
firebathero 57
Mong 54
nyoken 30
sorry 27
Terrorterran 20
Rock 19
Hm[arnc] 17
NaDa 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5547
Dendi647
NeuroSwarm102
League of Legends
C9.Mang019
Counter-Strike
fl0m1733
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor174
Other Games
Sick295
Liquid`Hasu134
ArmadaUGS105
Mew2King67
Trikslyr58
MindelVK6
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV16
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV387
League of Legends
• TFBlade1635
• imaqtpie1351
• Shiphtur399
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 22m
Escore
15h 22m
LiuLi Cup
16h 22m
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
22h 22m
ByuN vs GgMaChine
Serral vs Jumy
RSL Revival
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
LiuLi Cup
1d 16h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 17h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.