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Map Pool for 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 14

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roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
October 24 2012 17:39 GMT
#261
I like this map. It's like Daybreak, the best map ever created so far.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
October 24 2012 17:45 GMT
#262
On October 23 2012 21:19 GTR wrote:
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?


I also thought this. Antiga needs go away.
Connor987
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom103 Posts
October 24 2012 18:54 GMT
#263
Dont like that they kept whirlwind, fed up of hearing, 'this map is basically a free win for zerg' thats not how balance should work
zkeller51
Profile Joined September 2012
United States25 Posts
October 24 2012 18:55 GMT
#264
Its a map identical to abyssal city with a cross fire tile set. They should bring back Ohana and get rid of Whirlwind.
FreedomMurder
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada200 Posts
October 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#265
How protoss can take a safe 3rd on this new map vs. zerg is beyond me. 2 base all ins it is i guess =/
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 22:36:15
October 24 2012 22:34 GMT
#266
--- Nuked ---
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 24 2012 22:39 GMT
#267
On October 25 2012 07:21 FreedomMurder wrote:
How protoss can take a safe 3rd on this new map vs. zerg is beyond me. 2 base all ins it is i guess =/


The fact that you NEED easy to take third on every map because of how bad protoss is design is really making it hard to have any progress in map making I feel.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 25 2012 01:15 GMT
#268
On October 25 2012 03:54 Connor987 wrote:
Dont like that they kept whirlwind, fed up of hearing, 'this map is basically a free win for zerg' thats not how balance should work

but it's not a freewin for zerg lol
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 25 2012 01:28 GMT
#269
I cant believe that terrans are stilling winning matches on these big maps. Warp in mechanic and speedlings become so much more powerful on big maps. I honestly believe that the top tier terrans have the best mechanics.
Onionkebab
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark26 Posts
October 25 2012 15:50 GMT
#270
Bel'Shir Vestige looks really interesting and have lots of possibilities, in my opinion. hoping it will come to the ladder map pool.
Can someone explain me why the "late game expansions" have less gas and minerals? Or maybe give me a link that could explain it?
Murhreeens!
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
October 26 2012 17:17 GMT
#271
Cloud Kingdom #PAIN. Can't stand this map, gives the most boring games imo.
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 26 2012 17:22 GMT
#272
On October 24 2012 07:17 Incomplet wrote:
Map Stats (Korea Only)

Whirlwind:
TvZ: 15-17 (46.9%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 11-12 (47.8%) [ Games ]
PvT: 16-12 (57.1%) [ Games ]
Verdict: Even with big advantage for Protoss against Terran

Cloud Kingdom
TvZ: 88-82 (51.8%)
ZvP: 86-79 (52.1%)
PvT: 89-86 (50.9%)
Verdict: Balanced

Entombed Valley:
TvZ: 65-83 (43.9%)
ZvP: 75-100 (42.9%)
PvT: 99-104 (48.8%)
Verdict: Terran struggles against zerg, who struggle against Protoss

Antiga:
TvZ: 121-109 (52.6%)
ZvP: 91-76 (54.5%)
PvT: 117-118 (49.8%)
Verdict: Balanced

Daybreak:
TvZ: 150-153 (49.5%)
ZvP: 137-151 (47.6%)
PvT: 149-136 (52.3%)
Verdict: Balanced

Abyssal City:
TvZ: 6-7 (46.2%)
ZvP: 3-3 (50%)
PvT: 6-6 (50%)
Verdict: Balanced -> Not enough games for accurate verdict.

Belshir Vistage:
???

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

REMOVED - Ohana:
TvZ: 79-63 (55.6%)
ZvP: 63-78 (44.7%)
PvT: 75-65 (53.6%)
Verdict: Zerg dies on this map. Protoss vs Terran Balanced.

how the fuck can you have a verdict that points out an imbalance on whirlwind with such a tiny sample...
BuKimKiBu
Profile Joined October 2009
1 Post
November 18 2012 00:25 GMT
#273
I can not find these maps in custom games, I could find them once upon a time. But after a long time when I tried for the first time to find a GSL map the new "Bel'shir Vestige" map, which seemed to me playable and interesting, I could not find any GSL maps anymore. Is there a solution to this situation?

Thanks in advance for your answer...
Regards
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