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Soloturtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada333 Posts
October 10 2012 02:12 GMT
#41
Well, time for them to disband after so much shit.
Good luck Sjow and Welmu!!
Cool
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 10 2012 02:13 GMT
#42
On October 10 2012 11:12 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:08 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Cute trick. What precisely does it do though, that makes it that bad? I get that it eats up your internet connection and that it's shady, but does it do something worse than that?
At the moment, I just view it as a cute trick that is somewhat underhanded, but doesn't necessarily do any significant damage to anyone.

It devalues stream advertising.


To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt?

I just find it hilarious that they're trying to inflate their viewer numbers this way. Even if there is no other damage or whatever, its amusing to see how far this team will go to put on the appearance of being popular


Yeah. It's a bit sad, and it makes the entire idea of esports and pro-gaming teams look clownshoes, but it's hard to see who actually ends up hurt.
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 10 2012 02:14 GMT
#43
On October 10 2012 11:13 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 11:12 Whatson wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:08 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Cute trick. What precisely does it do though, that makes it that bad? I get that it eats up your internet connection and that it's shady, but does it do something worse than that?
At the moment, I just view it as a cute trick that is somewhat underhanded, but doesn't necessarily do any significant damage to anyone.

It devalues stream advertising.


To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt?

I just find it hilarious that they're trying to inflate their viewer numbers this way. Even if there is no other damage or whatever, its amusing to see how far this team will go to put on the appearance of being popular


Yeah. It's a bit sad, and it makes the entire idea of esports and pro-gaming teams look clownshoes, but it's hard to see who actually ends up hurt.

Eclypisa actually. They're only hurting themselves with this false data. .
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#44
LOL. I always thought they were incompetent rather than shady after the meme thing, but now its fairly obvious that they are shady as all bleep.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19267 Posts
October 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#45
Lol. How many times must we go through with threads on how.awedul these guys are? Just more proof I guess. Sorry for their players who have been cheated.
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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
October 10 2012 02:17 GMT
#46
Sorry, but am I missing something? What's wrong with this? It's essentially advertising.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 10 2012 02:17 GMT
#47
On October 10 2012 11:14 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 11:13 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:12 Whatson wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:08 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Cute trick. What precisely does it do though, that makes it that bad? I get that it eats up your internet connection and that it's shady, but does it do something worse than that?
At the moment, I just view it as a cute trick that is somewhat underhanded, but doesn't necessarily do any significant damage to anyone.

It devalues stream advertising.


To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt?

I just find it hilarious that they're trying to inflate their viewer numbers this way. Even if there is no other damage or whatever, its amusing to see how far this team will go to put on the appearance of being popular


Yeah. It's a bit sad, and it makes the entire idea of esports and pro-gaming teams look clownshoes, but it's hard to see who actually ends up hurt.

Eclypisa actually. They're only hurting themselves with this false data. .


Unless they're generating ad revenue. Wouldn't that constitute fraud?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#48
On October 10 2012 11:13 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 11:12 Whatson wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:08 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Cute trick. What precisely does it do though, that makes it that bad? I get that it eats up your internet connection and that it's shady, but does it do something worse than that?
At the moment, I just view it as a cute trick that is somewhat underhanded, but doesn't necessarily do any significant damage to anyone.

It devalues stream advertising.


To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt?

I just find it hilarious that they're trying to inflate their viewer numbers this way. Even if there is no other damage or whatever, its amusing to see how far this team will go to put on the appearance of being popular


Yeah. It's a bit sad, and it makes the entire idea of esports and pro-gaming teams look clownshoes, but it's hard to see who actually ends up hurt.

As long as it is just a matter of few isolated incidents, I guess the advertisement devaluations isn't a big deal. Mainly a problem when the zombie viewers start to be a large fraction of all the viewers I'd say. I don't think (hope!) this is standard procedure in any way, so I'd say it's mainly sad as you say.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
October 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#49
Theoretically aren't they operating as an ad while playing ads?
RuhRoh is my herO
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
October 10 2012 02:19 GMT
#50
On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 11:08 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2012 11:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Cute trick. What precisely does it do though, that makes it that bad? I get that it eats up your internet connection and that it's shady, but does it do something worse than that?
At the moment, I just view it as a cute trick that is somewhat underhanded, but doesn't necessarily do any significant damage to anyone.

It devalues stream advertising.


To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt?


they're taking the ad company's money and not showing their ads to anyone

it's called fraud
gulshngill
Profile Joined December 2010
Malaysia140 Posts
October 10 2012 02:19 GMT
#51
Never trusted them since day 1...any news I see about them on tl are always negative. Welmu should just leave that team.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
October 10 2012 02:21 GMT
#52
They sure are experienced in doing stupid things.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 02:22:37
October 10 2012 02:21 GMT
#53
So they basic take money from advertise company's without showing the advertise.
And that in not a clever way ( with this spike the streamsite will notice this instant)

On the other hand: they cheat the advertise company's.
So i dont care.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 10 2012 02:22 GMT
#54
On October 10 2012 11:21 skeldark wrote:
So they basic take money from advertise company's without showing the advertise.
And that in not a clever way ( with this spike the streamsite will notice this instant)

On the other hand: they cheat advertise company's.
So i dont care.



Yeah... fuck companies trying to get more exposure via paying for advertisements!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 10 2012 02:23 GMT
#55
Oh, while we are at ot, are we allowed to make parallels to LoLs embedded streams and inflated views from people that actually didn't intend to view anything? As us noble starcraft players regard LoL players as being on the intellectual level of zombies, the terminology will intuitively cover that case as well. I know it's not the same thing, but drama threads are for ridiculous tangents and straw men right?
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
October 10 2012 02:24 GMT
#56
This is so funny. Whoever decided to do this clearly does not realize anyone can look up this data and see how stupid Eclypsia is.
Long live the Boss Toss!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 02:27:24
October 10 2012 02:24 GMT
#57
For whatever reason, this team never seemed destined to succeed. It often seemed as though the management had no clue as to what they were supposed to do, and I guess news like this isn't really surprising.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 10 2012 02:24 GMT
#58
That's.......wow that's a huge increase lol >__<

At the same time, it's a very competitive industry and maybe Eclypsia was feeling very pressured to put up some good numbers. But apparently in esports, Internet detective work can be not only quick but very damning, especially because of how closeknit and generally passionate the community tends to be.
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boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
October 10 2012 02:25 GMT
#59
On October 10 2012 11:22 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 11:21 skeldark wrote:
So they basic take money from advertise company's without showing the advertise.
And that in not a clever way ( with this spike the streamsite will notice this instant)

On the other hand: they cheat advertise company's.
So i dont care.



Yeah... fuck companies trying to get more exposure via paying for advertisements!

But they're not paying for an ad. They could easily pay for an add and no one would complain. Think a little and see if you can tell the difference between this and an ad.
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
October 10 2012 02:26 GMT
#60
On October 10 2012 11:23 Cascade wrote:
Oh, while we are at ot, are we allowed to make parallels to LoLs embedded streams and inflated views from people that actually didn't intend to view anything? As us noble starcraft players regard LoL players as being on the intellectual level of zombies, the terminology will intuitively cover that case as well. I know it's not the same thing, but drama threads are for ridiculous tangents and straw men right?

If you mean the embedded stream in the client, any advertiser would know it is embedded, and the reason that gets more views is people click on it when they open the game, not people don't realize it's open when doing something completely different..
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