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On October 10 2012 11:12 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 11:11 Kasu wrote:
Hmm, I don't suppose it could be construed as defrauding dailymotion/the advertisers in some way? I doubt it, since DailyMotion would have had to agree to add the stream. It's not like Eclypsia is tricking them into anything.
Hmmm.. not quite convinced. Ecylpsia's end of the bargain is surely to provide views for the ads, which they aren't doing, therefore they are taking dailymotion's money and not giving them back what they agreed to do. Of course, its not really as if Dailymotion can force streamers to ensure people watch the ads, but I think this might be taking it a step too far.
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wow its like a lot of people are toying with france. Stephano is carrying the whole country on his back along with all of this mess too
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On October 10 2012 11:15 Jaaaaasper wrote:
LOL. I always thought they were incompetent rather than shady after the meme thing, but now its fairly obvious that they are shady as all bleep.
It's obviously incompetent shady since we are talking about it 
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On October 10 2012 11:25 boxman22 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 11:22 FabledIntegral wrote:On October 10 2012 11:21 skeldark wrote:
So they basic take money from advertise company's without showing the advertise.
And that in not a clever way ( with this spike the streamsite will notice this instant)
On the other hand: they cheat advertise company's.
So i dont care.
Yeah... fuck companies trying to get more exposure via paying for advertisements! But they're not paying for an ad. They could easily pay for an add and no one would complain. Think a little and see if you can tell the difference between this and an ad.
I totally forgot that many pro-gamer streams play ads as soon as you tune-in. It's because such white noise to me now lol.
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Eclypsia is doing sketchy shit?
In other news, water is wet.
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On October 10 2012 11:25 boxman22 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 11:22 FabledIntegral wrote:On October 10 2012 11:21 skeldark wrote:
So they basic take money from advertise company's without showing the advertise.
And that in not a clever way ( with this spike the streamsite will notice this instant)
On the other hand: they cheat advertise company's.
So i dont care.
Yeah... fuck companies trying to get more exposure via paying for advertisements! But they're not paying for an ad. They could easily pay for an add and no one would complain. Think a little and see if you can tell the difference between this and an ad.
or maybe you're the one that doesn't understand.
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I wonder if a lot of data is transferred under these hidden streams.
I.e. anyone who surfed these sites with data caps ;x
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On October 10 2012 11:29 corpuscle wrote:
Eclypsia is doing sketchy shit?
In other news, water is wet.
If Eclypsia was a country, it would be called the Bright Democratic Peoples Free Democracy of Eclypsia. They would have fair and free elections with a turnout of six million percent, and all the votes would go for the leader. There would be news reports of babies jumping out of wombs to vote, and then dancing on the street, jubilant at doing their part for the Great Free Government of Eclypsia.
Everyone would be rich, because the money would have SO MANY ZEROES on it. The money factories would print day and night. People would be so rich they could and would use money for campfires and as bedding and for food.
All other countries would be evil, and there would be daily news reports and megaspeaker broadcasts of this. They are jealous of Eclypsia, and the bright future of promise that Eclypsia rushed towards.
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On October 10 2012 11:12 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On October 10 2012 11:08 Cascade wrote:On October 10 2012 11:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Cute trick. What precisely does it do though, that makes it that bad? I get that it eats up your internet connection and that it's shady, but does it do something worse than that?
At the moment, I just view it as a cute trick that is somewhat underhanded, but doesn't necessarily do any significant damage to anyone. It devalues stream advertising. To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt? I just find it hilarious that they're trying to inflate their viewer numbers this way. Even if there is no other damage or whatever, its amusing to see how far this team will go to put on the appearance of being popular
And getting money from the ad views. If it was just for popularity, no. It wasn't.
Remember the topic on TL where some guy said "i love tl so much i just click on ads to give them money everybody do it!"
And then some guy came in the thread( i think rich) and said " this is ad fraud. Only click if you are interested."
In order for esports organizations to get ad money, they have to think that their addmis seen and if it is clicked on it's because someone is interested. Eclypsia is breaking dat and they should get sued because if add makers find out they can throttle down ad revenue
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I wish there is a form of exile in the esports world.
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Actually, if I think about it, according to the graph, there should be (at least) four websites--- if you look, theres a several hundred thousand viewer increase for each of four days, which would be only possible if new websites were being added daily.
i.e.
(Oct 3, 0-200k viewers = at least one site added,
Oct 4, 200-400k viewers = at least one site added,
Oct 5, 400-580k viewers = at least one site added
Oct 6, 580-1,050k viewers = at least one (major) site added (or multiple, or weekend view numbers on the (at least four) previous)
WHAT YOU GONNA DO WITH ALL THOSE VIEWS ECLYPSIA?
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On October 10 2012 11:33 Escape wrote:
I wish there is a form of exile in the esports world.
It's cool. The starcraft community will forgive them in 2 months.
Like they tried to do with Savior.. And dragon..
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On October 10 2012 11:39 Glurkenspurk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 11:33 Escape wrote:
I wish there is a form of exile in the esports world. It's cool. The starcraft community will forgive them in 2 months. Like they tried to do with Savior.. And dragon..
lol what the fuck
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On October 10 2012 10:43 Xeris wrote:
LOL
I mean, does anything else need to be said? These guys are shadier than a palm tree (here's hoping someone gets that retarded reference).
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On October 10 2012 11:42 Mortal wrote:I mean, does anything else need to be said? These guys are shadier than a palm tree (here's hoping someone gets that retarded reference).
Don't worry, I think we all did.
Xeris, stop stealing my words.
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On October 10 2012 11:42 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 11:39 Glurkenspurk wrote:On October 10 2012 11:33 Escape wrote:
I wish there is a form of exile in the esports world. It's cool. The starcraft community will forgive them in 2 months. Like they tried to do with Savior.. And dragon.. lol what the fuck
Wow...totally uncalled for
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this is unreal hilarious tbh
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
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We should have a meme contest about this.
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On October 10 2012 11:23 Cascade wrote:
Oh, while we are at ot, are we allowed to make parallels to LoLs embedded streams and inflated views from people that actually didn't intend to view anything? As us noble starcraft players regard LoL players as being on the intellectual level of zombies, the terminology will intuitively cover that case as well. I know it's not the same thing, but drama threads are for ridiculous tangents and straw men right?
you still actually have to click on it for the stream to start
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This is bad, all the streamers who are legit could get really screwed by this situation. Hopefully twitch or own3d, or whoever they are with puts a stop to this.
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