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Lessons from OSL Kespa vs GOM competition - Page 2
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
We should speculate less and enjoy the games more. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:30 Twinkle Toes wrote: I had to take time before posting this to make sure what I write is at the very least objective and not a rant of a moronic hater. I admit, during the games, and perhaps even tomorrow, I will cheer as hard for ESF players against KeSPA, screaming every now and then things like "Go roll this noob" or "lol ESF > KeSPA". But all that is just for hype and nothing personal at all. I will still cheer for GSL players mainly because I know them, and partly because a little competition among the fans is good. Anyway, having established that, I want to have a little discussion on what we observed and learned from the first day of official clash between the highly regarded sc1 players and our heroes, the "seniors" of sc2. Here's what I learned: 1, Fuck micro and multitask. The rumors are true, in terms of micro and multitask, indeed sc1 >>> sc2 players.. Nestea and even Parting where simply outclassed in these areas. Parting won, but only because he had the good sense to see what Ty was doing and and the right reaction to it. Fantasy's marine micro might be the best I've seen, better than MMA even, and those drop harass + macro is impeccable. 2. Kespa players are not ahead, not yet. It is safe to say that GSL players still have a very slight advantage. I will not speculate whether it will hold or Kespa will take over. Both have an equal chance to improve at this point, so let's see how they adjust. 3. Experience counts. DRG and Parting won by sheer force of slyness and knowledge of the game. 4. Flash is nothing special. I will not speculate what is happening to him since I lol, not sure how Parting was out micro'ed and multi-tasked. Baby went for a 1 base double front attack that did basically nothing. And Fantasy's macro slipped while he was dropping. He still played a good game but people are overhyping it a lot. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
Because looks like everyone is hype that finally we are getting decents games in kespa Can anybody give the link of Fantasy epic marine micro plzz? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
yea, nothing to see here. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:55 vthree wrote: lol, not sure how Parting was out micro'ed and multi-tasked. Baby went for a 1 base double front attack that did basically nothing. And Fantasy's macro slipped while he was dropping. He still played a good game but people are overhyping it a lot. Fantasy's macro didn't slip, he has said he sometimes lets minerals build up on purpose, so he can build more of the units he wants. | ||
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:30 Twinkle Toes wrote: I had to take time before posting this to make sure what I write is at the very least objective and not a rant of a moronic hater. I admit, during the games, and perhaps even tomorrow, I will cheer as hard for ESF players against KeSPA, screaming every now and then things like "Go roll this noob" or "lol ESF > KeSPA". But all that is just for hype and nothing personal at all. I will still cheer for GSL players mainly because I know them, and partly because a little competition among the fans is good. Anyway, having established that, I want to have a little discussion on what we observed and learned from the first day of official clash between the highly regarded sc1 players and our heroes, the "seniors" of sc2. Here's what I learned: 1, Fuck micro and multitask. The rumors are true, in terms of micro and multitask, indeed sc1 >>> sc2 players.. Nestea and even Parting where simply outclassed in these areas. Parting won, but only because he had the good sense to see what Ty was doing and and the right reaction to it. Fantasy's marine micro might be the best I've seen, better than MMA even, and those drop harass + macro is impeccable. 2. Kespa players are not ahead, not yet. It is safe to say that GSL players still have a very slight advantage. I will not speculate whether it will hold or Kespa will take over. Both have an equal chance to improve at this point, so let's see how they adjust. 3. Experience counts. DRG and Parting won by sheer force of slyness and knowledge of the game. 4. Flash is nothing special. I will not speculate what is happening to him since I To be fair from the last i saw Nestea play which was in the IPL TAC he has been getting out multitask for a while. He likes to run his army in one hotkey. Nestea was a great player because of his game sense not multitasking so i wouldnt read too much into it. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:55 vthree wrote: baby has like top 3 multitasking. of course he will out multitask you if he knows what he's doing. lol, not sure how Parting was out micro'ed and multi-tasked. Baby went for a 1 base double front attack that did basically nothing. And Fantasy's macro slipped while he was dropping. He still played a good game but people are overhyping it a lot. | ||
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Kahlgar
411 Posts
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DrakeFZX3
United States925 Posts
His macro was subpar. Getting supply blocked at 110 and then proceed to be stuck on an 18 minute 2 base bio. Felt like I was watching GSL Open Season 3 all over again. | ||
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danakaz
Denmark84 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:30 Twinkle Toes wrote: The rumors are true, in terms of micro and multitask, indeed sc1 >>> sc2 players.. This sentiment is just stupid, most if not all of the "sc2" players, were bw players before they switched. To the rest of your post, I will say that you're concluding way too much on a 4 game basis. Cool your horses. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:58 oneofthem wrote: Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of May 2012 yea, nothing to see here. Actually my second account. The first one in 2011 got banned for my idiotic rage against 4gate pvp. Mod told me to be less idiotic on my next account. Also, ironic that I just came out of a ban due to post count and join date. Anyway, good day sir. | ||
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SC2ShoWTimE
Germany722 Posts
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:30 Twinkle Toes wrote: 4. Flash is nothing special. I will not speculate what is happening to him since I This quote for some reason made me laugh. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
If against all odds, kespa players would also enter international events (more then only a few) the training thing would be evened out a little. I have seen a few cute moves by kespa players, nothing impressive, i found it rather impressive that this isn't standard in pro level. But the rule seems to be, doesn't have to be done if no one else does it. At the end i would put the chances higher into korea sheltering itself away in the competition and the international scene will lose the korean fan boy viewers. But from what i saw is that we might end up seeing more micro. (pulling medivacs away when dropping a protoss that is tying to snipe the medivac. bringing stalkers in the full marine range, easy to see easy to do) It's also interesting how differently the kespa players evolve, depending how much help they get from the current sc2 players. And funny when they are confronted with something they didn't knew. Can't wait though till the first mass fungaled group of marines will be completly saved due to medivac cloud kiting ... kidding. Overall they have proven that they are pros, nothing special. Would have actually counted them out if they couldn't win Bo1s against ESF players after such a long preparation time. At the end Fantasy will win everything anyway ! ... But MvP too they will have eternal draws in the finals. | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:59 oneofthem wrote: baby has like top 3 multitasking. of course he will out multitask you if he knows what he's doing. I am talking about that game between Baby and Parting. I don't see how Baby out multitasked Parting. Could you give me examples? | ||
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6NR
United States1472 Posts
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Ana_
Finland453 Posts
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