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Lessons from OSL Kespa vs GOM competition - Page 15
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ArvickHero
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On August 30 2012 04:47 Luepert wrote: What I learned. Best of ones suck in starcraft 2. For players and fans alike. I think you might be saying that from the heart because you're favorite or heavily liked players lost. However if you look at just the gameplay, Kespa played like goddesses, while ESF played like farmers. For the most part at least. Had I not known the players names beforehand, I wouldnt be surprised at the winner. | ||
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artosismermaid
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 30 2012 07:13 ]343[ wrote: I do agree, however, that upsets often happen in group stages (but apparently everyone hates upsets...). What says that there cannot be upsets in BoX series? | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On August 30 2012 05:12 aNGryaRchon wrote: Are you fucking high and retarded? OP obviously meant SC2 lol. Good point. He may be the greatest RTS player of all time, but because the OP saw him play a single game (which he won very convincingly) he's nothing special. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:02 WindWolf wrote: What says that there cannot be upsets in BoX series? No one says that, and no one says that upsets are a bad thing either. People are saying that in a bo1 its more probable for a worse player to have success then he would in a bo3. Getting lucky twice in a row is less likely then getting lucky once. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
In the bo1 system, its more likely the better players end up making it through. The chance of Flash knocking out Jaedong in the Ro16 for instance can't happen because they are facing multiple people in Bo1's rather than one person in a Bo3. So you usually end up with much more epic finals, because the top seeds are more likely to make it through. | ||
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Vaporak
70 Posts
On August 30 2012 12:33 GolemMadness wrote: Good point. He may be the greatest RTS player of all time, but because the OP saw him play a single game (which he won very convincingly) he's nothing special. Right now he's no more special than the top Warcraft 3 players who switched over to Starcraft 2. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 30 2012 15:45 sluggaslamoo wrote: I think sc2 players are misunderstanding something about the format. In the bo1 system, its more likely the better players end up making it through. The chance of Flash knocking out Jaedong in the Ro16 for instance can't happen because they are facing multiple people in Bo1's rather than one person in a Bo3. So you usually end up with much more epic finals, because the top seeds are more likely to make it through. There is a difference between a bo1 system and a round robin system. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On August 30 2012 16:42 Vaporak wrote: Right now he's no more special than the top Warcraft 3 players who switched over to Starcraft 2. There's a big difference between Flash and the top WC3 players. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:01 Squeegy wrote: There's a big difference between Flash and the top WC3 players. Well he said "Right now" and its true, but asserting Flash, Jaedong, or even Bisu,Stork or Fantasy potential is a matter of years, cause their potential in sc2 is not even scratched "right now". And thats the differenence some people don't get. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:14 Fragile51 wrote: Fantasy's macro was anything but impeccable. He was floating enough money to throw down 3 cc's at a time and still had enough money left do pump out an entire production round of marines.. Yes and still he shut down Nestea pretty hard, just like he did in BW vs top players while floating money. It just shows how strong other areas he has if he could become Top5 BW player with a bad characteristic like that. But i think most flaws people point out are managable to fix with smart UI use in SC2, Fantasy never had that good APM but given smart use of SC2 UI its fixable. Same with Best Immortals. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:01 Squeegy wrote: There's a big difference between Flash and the top WC3 players. Pretty sure moon dominated WC3 harder than flash dominated Bw, and so far moon has had better SC2 results than flash, so the only difference isn't quite the one you would like to believe. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 30 2012 19:03 hunts wrote: Pretty sure moon dominated WC3 harder than flash dominated Bw, and so far moon has had better SC2 results than flash, so the only difference isn't quite the one you would like to believe. Moon was severely dissapointing in SC2(and Grubby for that matter aswell, they were both outplayed by their way inferior colleagues), if Flash would achieve exact same results as him it would be considered failure. Im just being honest here. Flash was the most dominating starcraft player so if he won't claim few OSL/GSL titles at least it will be automatical failure reputation wise. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:33 Aunvilgod wrote: - What we see now does not mean anything. The game is way too young in the hands of the KeSPA players. We should see how things have developed until next year imo. This. The better KeSPA SC2 players are most likely better because they have been practicing longer, in a year no KeSPA player will have that advantage, or at least it won't be as noticeable. | ||
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