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KeSPA Agrees to Participate in GSL Season 5 - Page 2

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seoul_kiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States545 Posts
August 24 2012 13:18 GMT
#21
Kespa: This isn't Brood Wars. Welcome. Welcome, to Starcraft 2. An international stage.
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
August 24 2012 13:18 GMT
#22
On August 24 2012 22:13 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 22:13 pallad wrote:
Thank good , end of this drama


For now.

It never ends with Kespa.


This. Everyone needs to understand this and remain prepared for the future with KeSPA.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 24 2012 13:19 GMT
#23
On August 24 2012 22:12 Ghyslyn wrote:
That seems contrary to what they announced just a few hours ago...

http://www.thisisgame.com/en/2012/08/24/kespa-explains-the-reason-not-joining-gsl-season-4

Here is the direct source for the article that OP provided, if anyone who speaks Korean fluently wants to clarify whether it states that they WILL or WON'T participate in GSL 5 please help us out here.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681


That first article suggests that the reason the Kespa players weren't participating in GSL was scheduling issues. I assume something has been worked out so that it fits with the OSL and SPL schedules.
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 24 2012 13:19 GMT
#24
I think eSF players should participate. I doubt KeSPA would actually back out season 5 when the time comes, because it would look SO bad no sponsor want that kind of headache.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6112 Posts
August 24 2012 13:19 GMT
#25
Could be good.

Means Kespa players will have more time to practice, and once released on GSL they will destroy.
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JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
August 24 2012 13:19 GMT
#26
Why should we believe them ?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 24 2012 13:20 GMT
#27
On August 24 2012 22:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
ESF should say that they wont participate in this osl and only in the next osl as well lol


Didn't the ESF state that they will not participate in the OSL until the Kespa players tryout for the GSL?
That kind of implies what you said.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
August 24 2012 13:20 GMT
#28
If KeSPA won't join the GSL until season 5, ESF shouldn't join the OSL until season 2. They can't let KeSPA's empty promises fuel their relationship. Tit-for-tat is the only way this plays out well in the long run for GOM.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 24 2012 13:20 GMT
#29
Just going to drop this here, already posted in the other thread but hopefully more people will be informed:


On August 24 2012 22:09 OpticalShot wrote:
Jeez, now will all of you put your pitchforks down? As I stated in the earlier thread (of the same issue) it was just a business decision due to lack of detailed schedule planning (source: Fomos Source, Not Allowed to Translate) and they clearly stated, at least publicly, that they're not trying to create a feud with GOM or the ESF (source: Another Fomos Source, Not Allowed to Translate). Both of these Fomos articles popped up overnight or something, I didn't see them yesterday.

*edit: I'll add some details from the above two articles, in case you're curious:
+ Show Spoiler +
First article:
- KeSPA apologizes for creating this mess
- KeSPA states that there were no official discussion on schedules and dates
- KeSPA states that they had no idea GSL were willing to give out seeds to KeSPA players
- They're not trying to create a divide, why else would they have accepted the cross-matches in the past then?
- They're now discussing the possibility of giving the same "progamer license" to ESF players, and accordingly:
- They're now discussing the possibility of (finally) recognizing GSL as an "official tournament"
- KeSPA states that the above two points have been made known to GOM and they're internally discussing it too

Second article:
- much of the same things, more details
- in the past 4 months, KeSPA sent players to WCS, Cross-Matches, WCG Korea, and MLG Invitations on top of the OSL and PL - all this was possible due to months of planning ahead
- in the upcoming month (September) KeSPA players are already booked for the PL games + playoffs, OSL, continuation of WCG Korea, WCS, and MLG.
- above is why KeSPA thought participating in GSL S4 would be too much of a push
- KeSPA promises to act and plan ahead and communicate better with teams and players in the future (T/N: LOL yeah right, like I haven't heard that one before)


As linked many times, according to This DES Article, KeSPA stated on the 24th (today) that they will send eligible players from ALL teams (stated explicitly in the article as "all teams") to participate in the next GSL (next as in Season 5). They also added that they don't want any more tension in the scene, but that's most likely a PR statement lol.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:22:23
August 24 2012 13:22 GMT
#30
On August 24 2012 22:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
ESF should say that they wont participate in this osl and only in the next osl as well lol


Totally agree.
It seems Kespa has to feel the pain first before they understand that the sc2 scene is not just about them, like in BW. and they need to cooperate and stop being childisch.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
FoxerGames
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:23:25
August 24 2012 13:22 GMT
#31
This is great news for us viewers and this is bad news for the GOM players already seeded.. Now its going to be even harder for them to maintain their seeded rank...

Now let the fun BEGINN!!!!!
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 24 2012 13:22 GMT
#32
Keikaku doori
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
August 24 2012 13:23 GMT
#33
On August 24 2012 22:13 pallad wrote:
Thank god , end of this drama

This one perhaps - more will follow soon.
This was just a probing action.
Now that GSL showed a heavy-handed response Kespa will take a less direct route.
Let the cold-war begin.
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:30:03
August 24 2012 13:25 GMT
#34
It feels like Blizzard pressured KeSPA quite a bit behind the scenes. Hard to imagine what else made them change their mind so fast.

It feels great to see KeSPA get smacked in the face but i think they will stay the same scumbags and just wait for another chance to fuck everybody else over.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 24 2012 13:25 GMT
#35
Now to wait for the response from the ESF
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ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
August 24 2012 13:25 GMT
#36
On August 24 2012 22:25 soiii wrote:
It feels like Blizzard pressured KeSPA quite a bit behind the scenes. Hard to imagine what else made them change their mind so fast.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1/Round_of_16

This probably.
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Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
August 24 2012 13:26 GMT
#37
On August 24 2012 22:23 pmp10 wrote:
Now that GSL showed a heavy-handed response Kespa will take a less direct route.


I wonder how many times it has to be repeated that the ESF isn't GOM.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 24 2012 13:26 GMT
#38
I don´t trust KeSPA. They will pull the same shit next season again, believe me.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
August 24 2012 13:26 GMT
#39
Well that was fast. Kespa finally receiving the short end of the stick. Glorious.
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Anomi
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:29:03
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#40
To be truthful i don't see how this is something we should be happy with. The problem still stands that Kespa are the only one that are allowed to have gsl players vs kespa players for 2 months by them self. Thats more enough time to capitilias the market. Before this move by kespa both kespa and gom would have benefited from the kespa vs gsl players: Now kespa are the only ones that gets it for 2 months. Isn't this a win for them?
There is still no justification on why all the kespa players are not allowed in season 4.
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