• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:37
CEST 22:37
KST 05:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak11DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview19herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)17Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, GuMiho, Classic, Cure6Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho4
Community News
[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)7Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results212025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)14
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview Power Rank: October 2018 Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho
Tourneys
DreamHack Dallas 2025 Last Chance Qualifiers for OlimoLeague 2024 Winter $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed
Brood War
General
[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak BW General Discussion Cwal.gg not working BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Artosis baned on twitch ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Semifinal B [BSL20] RO20 Group Stage Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15319 users

KeSPA Agrees to Participate in GSL Season 5 - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
607 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 29 30 31 Next All
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#41
I'm guessing the rationale behind this response is that for now ESF obviously has some power over KESPA. They will play nice while the SC2 OSL builds popularity and the KESPA players aren't dominating... I'm sure KESPA will return to its old ways at some point.

Funny how the '8 day' schedule now has some space...
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:43:05
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#42
I don't see where the capitulation is. Did KeSPA ever say that they weren't going to participate in Season 5 to start with? It seems like they were just staying out of Season 4 because it conflicted with the end of Proleague. Morever, they're still not participating in Season 4.

If that's it, then this whole ordeal has been a colossal waste of time and seems like yet another extreme overreaction by the SC2 community.

Edit: Nothing has actually changed by this announcement, and all the "Haha, KeSPA backed down" posts are hasty and uninformed.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#43
dustin browder has something to do with this...........
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#44
On August 24 2012 22:19 JyB wrote:
Why should we believe them ?


I hate to say it, but I think that might be their plan. Don't be shocked if they pull out next season too.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#45
Quite the drama with all this! Wow - well hopefully this works out. I want some good sc2 games, not drama!
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#46
They better get Kespa to sign a written contract, filled with penalties if they don't keep their end of the bargain.
Want to sport eSports? Disable adblock. P.S. En Taro Adun!!
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#47
ESF just exhibited some fantastic and calculated headship on KeSPA. They really got told.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#48
Is this really enough for ESF to back down and attend OSL. Trust has been lost and KESPA could u turn GSL S5 post OSL
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#49
OGN told Kespa to tell GSL that they send players. xD
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#50
On August 24 2012 22:27 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
I don't see where the capitulation is. Did KeSPA ever say that they weren't going to participate in Season 5 to start with? It seems like they were just staying out of Season 4 because it conflicted with the end of Proleague. Morever, they're still not participating in Season 4.

If that's it, then this whole ordeal has been a colossal waste of time and seems like yet another extreme overreaction by the SC2 community.



Pretty much. Everyone be jumping the gun.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2012 13:29 GMT
#51
On August 24 2012 22:28 seanisgrand wrote:
ESF just exhibited some fantastic and calculated headship on KeSPA. They really got told.


If you think this is going to stop KeSPA from trying to get a leg up on everyone in the future then think again.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#52
Alright KeSPA, then GOM players can join the NEXT OSL since you decided for all your players that they are skipping this season of GSL.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#53
On August 24 2012 22:27 X3GoldDot wrote:
dustin browder has something to do with this...........


yeah right, the game developer did this

His boss' boss Mike Morheime is probably a better guess
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#54
It's amazing how eager people are to claim that "KeSPA got owned", even though it's more likely than not that they were actually planning to participate in the next GSL season regardless, and all that happened was eSF people throwing a tantrum because they are scared of getting pushed aside.
Str1keFreedom
Profile Joined October 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:36:07
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#55
To everyone who believes the statements from Kespa have to look back in the past.

When Kespa boycotted Gretech back in broodwar days, they clearly stated that they may join future leagues. They didnt even give Gretech a wink after the boycott. Right now no one in Korea believes this statement from Kespa.

Also do not believe in Fomos. It is the main media that Kespa uses to communicate with people and it always gets trashed by korean Netizens for its bias and inaccuracy. Fomos is the same organization that trashed Boxer and Nada calling them "prize money hunter" for leaving kespa for sc2.

Mr. Chae tweeted 2hrs ago , "Something that happened once may not occur. But something that happened twice will most definitely occur." He is talking about Kespa. This happened before, happened again, and bound to happen more times in the future.

This is quite a serious problem that relates to monoplization of esports in korea, and this will affect foreign tournaments as well if we let Kespa have it their way. Many of the enjoyment of foreign tournament comes from Foreigner vs Koreans, and if GomTV loses this fight who knows the future of the GomTV players and their sponsorship.

Please do not fall for Kespa's vile words and support Gom through this unforgivable situation that happened once again.

Edit: For people who say Kespa players have killer schedule, please dont fall for that...
Remember before MBCGames was disbanded Kespa players had dealt with multiple leagues and had no problems. Side projects? they do that all the time. Think about it. Not all players in Kespa will qualify for WCG, WCS, MLG, GSL etc... So why take away chances of players of qualifying for certain competition when eliminated from the other. It does not make sense.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 24 2012 13:31 GMT
#56
On August 24 2012 22:27 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
I don't see where the capitulation is. Did KeSPA ever say that they weren't going to participate in Season 5 to start with? It seems like they were just staying out of Season 4 because it conflicted with the end of Proleague. Morever, they're still not participating in Season 4.

If that's it, then this whole ordeal has been a colossal waste of time and seems like yet another extreme overreaction by the SC2 community.

It might not be over; ESF said that they would not play in OSL until KeSPA allowed their players to attend GSL. From KeSPA's statement they are still forbidding players so that would mean that ESF wont attend OSL until next season of GOM begins.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 24 2012 13:31 GMT
#57
i think it was the move of blizzard + the esf
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
August 24 2012 13:32 GMT
#58
Such a statement can easily be retracted considering the fact that there is still a while until season 5
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32739 Posts
August 24 2012 13:34 GMT
#59
At least one part of this drama ends, but more could start. Though it is better for KeSPA to join, I still fear more problems could form as a result.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
August 24 2012 13:34 GMT
#60
I love waking up in the morning and having slightly better news than what I fell asleep to.

KeSPA's not done yet, IMO. Here's hoping we have everyone in GSL5.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 29 30 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 2v2 ProLeague S3
19:00
Day 2
ZZZero.O92
Liquipedia
Road to EWC
15:00
DreamHack Dallas Group Stage
ewc_black2493
ComeBackTV 1919
SteadfastSC1368
CranKy Ducklings639
CosmosSc2 124
Rex111
EnkiAlexander 94
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 1368
CosmosSc2 124
Rex 111
Livibee 62
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17279
Calm 4248
EffOrt 756
Shuttle 614
Dewaltoss 135
ZZZero.O 92
ggaemo 89
HiyA 31
Backho 21
Dota 2
420jenkins351
NeuroSwarm61
febbydoto6
Counter-Strike
fl0m3079
Foxcn367
Stewie2K344
flusha197
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0205
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor191
Other Games
gofns14140
tarik_tv12876
summit1g5816
FrodaN4334
Grubby3515
mouzStarbuck212
KnowMe38
ViBE28
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 242
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 35
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2915
League of Legends
• Doublelift3164
• TFBlade1039
Other Games
• imaqtpie1581
• Scarra921
• Shiphtur272
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
13h 23m
SC Evo League
15h 23m
Road to EWC
18h 23m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
BeSt vs Soulkey
Road to EWC
1d 17h
Wardi Open
2 days
SOOP
3 days
NightMare vs Wayne
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
Solar vs Creator
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
GSL Code S
5 days
GuMiho vs Bunny
ByuN vs SHIN
Online Event
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-16
2025 GSL S1
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

Rose Open S1
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.