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KeSPA Agrees to Participate in GSL Season 5 - Page 3

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Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#41
I'm guessing the rationale behind this response is that for now ESF obviously has some power over KESPA. They will play nice while the SC2 OSL builds popularity and the KESPA players aren't dominating... I'm sure KESPA will return to its old ways at some point.

Funny how the '8 day' schedule now has some space...
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:43:05
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#42
I don't see where the capitulation is. Did KeSPA ever say that they weren't going to participate in Season 5 to start with? It seems like they were just staying out of Season 4 because it conflicted with the end of Proleague. Morever, they're still not participating in Season 4.

If that's it, then this whole ordeal has been a colossal waste of time and seems like yet another extreme overreaction by the SC2 community.

Edit: Nothing has actually changed by this announcement, and all the "Haha, KeSPA backed down" posts are hasty and uninformed.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#43
dustin browder has something to do with this...........
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 24 2012 13:27 GMT
#44
On August 24 2012 22:19 JyB wrote:
Why should we believe them ?


I hate to say it, but I think that might be their plan. Don't be shocked if they pull out next season too.
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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#45
Quite the drama with all this! Wow - well hopefully this works out. I want some good sc2 games, not drama!
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Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#46
They better get Kespa to sign a written contract, filled with penalties if they don't keep their end of the bargain.
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seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#47
ESF just exhibited some fantastic and calculated headship on KeSPA. They really got told.
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Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#48
Is this really enough for ESF to back down and attend OSL. Trust has been lost and KESPA could u turn GSL S5 post OSL
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#49
OGN told Kespa to tell GSL that they send players. xD
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#50
On August 24 2012 22:27 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
I don't see where the capitulation is. Did KeSPA ever say that they weren't going to participate in Season 5 to start with? It seems like they were just staying out of Season 4 because it conflicted with the end of Proleague. Morever, they're still not participating in Season 4.

If that's it, then this whole ordeal has been a colossal waste of time and seems like yet another extreme overreaction by the SC2 community.



Pretty much. Everyone be jumping the gun.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2012 13:29 GMT
#51
On August 24 2012 22:28 seanisgrand wrote:
ESF just exhibited some fantastic and calculated headship on KeSPA. They really got told.


If you think this is going to stop KeSPA from trying to get a leg up on everyone in the future then think again.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#52
Alright KeSPA, then GOM players can join the NEXT OSL since you decided for all your players that they are skipping this season of GSL.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#53
On August 24 2012 22:27 X3GoldDot wrote:
dustin browder has something to do with this...........


yeah right, the game developer did this

His boss' boss Mike Morheime is probably a better guess
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#54
It's amazing how eager people are to claim that "KeSPA got owned", even though it's more likely than not that they were actually planning to participate in the next GSL season regardless, and all that happened was eSF people throwing a tantrum because they are scared of getting pushed aside.
Str1keFreedom
Profile Joined October 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:36:07
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#55
To everyone who believes the statements from Kespa have to look back in the past.

When Kespa boycotted Gretech back in broodwar days, they clearly stated that they may join future leagues. They didnt even give Gretech a wink after the boycott. Right now no one in Korea believes this statement from Kespa.

Also do not believe in Fomos. It is the main media that Kespa uses to communicate with people and it always gets trashed by korean Netizens for its bias and inaccuracy. Fomos is the same organization that trashed Boxer and Nada calling them "prize money hunter" for leaving kespa for sc2.

Mr. Chae tweeted 2hrs ago , "Something that happened once may not occur. But something that happened twice will most definitely occur." He is talking about Kespa. This happened before, happened again, and bound to happen more times in the future.

This is quite a serious problem that relates to monoplization of esports in korea, and this will affect foreign tournaments as well if we let Kespa have it their way. Many of the enjoyment of foreign tournament comes from Foreigner vs Koreans, and if GomTV loses this fight who knows the future of the GomTV players and their sponsorship.

Please do not fall for Kespa's vile words and support Gom through this unforgivable situation that happened once again.

Edit: For people who say Kespa players have killer schedule, please dont fall for that...
Remember before MBCGames was disbanded Kespa players had dealt with multiple leagues and had no problems. Side projects? they do that all the time. Think about it. Not all players in Kespa will qualify for WCG, WCS, MLG, GSL etc... So why take away chances of players of qualifying for certain competition when eliminated from the other. It does not make sense.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 24 2012 13:31 GMT
#56
On August 24 2012 22:27 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
I don't see where the capitulation is. Did KeSPA ever say that they weren't going to participate in Season 5 to start with? It seems like they were just staying out of Season 4 because it conflicted with the end of Proleague. Morever, they're still not participating in Season 4.

If that's it, then this whole ordeal has been a colossal waste of time and seems like yet another extreme overreaction by the SC2 community.

It might not be over; ESF said that they would not play in OSL until KeSPA allowed their players to attend GSL. From KeSPA's statement they are still forbidding players so that would mean that ESF wont attend OSL until next season of GOM begins.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 24 2012 13:31 GMT
#57
i think it was the move of blizzard + the esf
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dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
August 24 2012 13:32 GMT
#58
Such a statement can easily be retracted considering the fact that there is still a while until season 5
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 24 2012 13:34 GMT
#59
At least one part of this drama ends, but more could start. Though it is better for KeSPA to join, I still fear more problems could form as a result.
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Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
August 24 2012 13:34 GMT
#60
I love waking up in the morning and having slightly better news than what I fell asleep to.

KeSPA's not done yet, IMO. Here's hoping we have everyone in GSL5.
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