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On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that.
So true.
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I have to say thank you. This topic has inspired me to play random once HoTS comes out.
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On August 23 2012 15:02 roronoe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that. So true. True for some, but not for others. Like any job, you have to put in a ton of effort in order to become good, and it's not for everyone.
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FUCk i want to post but i haven't read this thread and don't want to /randomplat plays zvp pvz etc
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On August 23 2012 15:04 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 15:02 roronoe wrote:On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that. So true. True for some, but not for others. Like any job, you have to put in a ton of effort in order to become good, and it's not for everyone.
It's not a job for most people who play it
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Anything under a 14 pool has to be aggressive or lack of drones or mineral income would hurt meta game.
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i wanted to empathise with the OP. then i read "safe 11 pool zvp" and my brain imploded.
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On August 23 2012 15:04 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 15:02 roronoe wrote:On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that. So true. True for some, but not for others. Like any job, you have to put in a ton of effort in order to become good, and it's not for everyone.
If you are part of that 1% that has the capability to go pro, my hat is off to you, good job, now go join a team and find some actual practice partners that'll help you improve beyond muscle-memory laddering.
If you're like the rest of us who play for enjoyment, I'd advise you to get your priorities straight.
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All I got from this thread is that somebody out there who takes starcraft 2 a little too seriously lost badly to a random player who didn't tell him his race, and now he wants people to remove random from the ladder selections. He then proceeds to try to cover everything up with the usual reasons like 'random players don't follow the metagame' and 'you're not improving'. Please, what metagame is there below masters? Whoever macros better wins anyways.
Fuck that shit, I'm switching to random, if only to piss off people like the OP.
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I find it boring to play only one race in a game that has 3 of them.
But i'm now only playing protoss because i'm too bad with the others. If i didin't want to reach diamond/master (i'm plat) league i would still be playing random. Makes you train with the 3 races, makes you find the one that really fits you the most and makes every game unique.
When you're playing 10 PvZ in a row, it's more or less all the same, when you play 10 RvZ in a row, it's never the same :D
Also : MorroW, Guineapig, GuMiHo, Nerchio, TLO, Superstar, ...
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On August 23 2012 15:10 Klipsys wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 15:04 Fencar wrote:On August 23 2012 15:02 roronoe wrote:On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that. So true. True for some, but not for others. Like any job, you have to put in a ton of effort in order to become good, and it's not for everyone. It's not a job for most people who play it
I meant if you want it as a career choice, it's like any Edit: some jobs and you have to put in everything if you want to live well.
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I wonder how far a Random player could get by telling people the wrong race at the start and then countering the choice the opponent usually makes in the current metagame?
I'm a firm believer Random should show race and I have played Random for a season or two now.
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I just tell people my race straight away, solves the problem.
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Another random topic, yay.
Blizzard should obviously make it so random shows race, but they won't, because too many people enjoy using Random to cheese.
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On August 23 2012 16:29 Suc wrote:
I just tell people my race straight away, solves the problem. Some people say what their race isn't to trick the other player while doing a cheese, such as telling a Protoss that they're Zerg while going 3rax all-in.
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On August 23 2012 16:33 Tobberoth wrote:
Another random topic, yay.
Blizzard should obviously make it so random shows race, but they won't, because too many people enjoy using Random to cheese.
that must be the exact reason why sc vanilla had random...
i'm not sure why mods are leaving both threads open because its just a cycle of complaints and those complaints being refuted.
I wouldnt mind loading screen showing "random z/t/p", i rarely face ffe in zvp because im random. Word Random needs to be added for "in your face" factor 
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On August 23 2012 16:53 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 16:29 Suc wrote:
I just tell people my race straight away, solves the problem. Some people say what their race isn't to trick the other player while doing a cheese, such as telling a Protoss that they're Zerg while going 3rax all-in.
Yeah people always say "I don't believe you" or something, but they're always shocked and say "wow, sorry" when they see I was telling the truth, haha.
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Even if you aren't learning standard builds, why does it matter? You aren't playing against them, because you're playing random. No reason to learn what a standard pvz opens with if you aren't going to play any
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On August 23 2012 15:04 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 15:02 roronoe wrote:On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that. So true. True for some, but not for others. Like any job, you have to put in a ton of effort in order to become good, and it's not for everyone.
Riiight... just like some people clean houses for fun. Just like you need to put in a ton of effort to be good at handling the cash register.
In general, all this fuss about random is a bit retarded. For 99% of the players, I really doubt playing random will help them get ladder wins. It just gets boring as shit playing the same race over and over, so hell, let me have fun and play my damn random in peace.
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On August 23 2012 16:05 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 15:10 Klipsys wrote:On August 23 2012 15:04 Fencar wrote:On August 23 2012 15:02 roronoe wrote:On August 23 2012 10:37 aviator116 wrote:On August 23 2012 10:34 PersonDudeGuy wrote:
All my builds open essentially the exact same and diverge at ordinary scout times so playing against random is never dangerous for me. Playing random for the sole purpose of collecting ladder points by abusing metagame is kind of short sighted in my opinion. Playing SC2 in itself is incredibly short-sighted too you know? I mean seriously, do you honestly expect to become a pro-gamer one day? And even if you do, do you think you'll find a super stable source of income that way? Fact is, Starcraft 2 is a video game. It's a hobby, meant for entertainment, you should really only play for fun. Some people obviously need to come to grips with that. So true. True for some, but not for others. Like any job, you have to put in a ton of effort in order to become good, and it's not for everyone. It's not a job for most people who play it I meant if you want it as a career choice, it's like any Edit: some jobs and you have to put in everything if you want to live well.
With the exception this issue is irrelevant to those who want to go pro anyways, generally speaking, since Random isn't encountered really at all on the pro scene.
On August 23 2012 16:53 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 16:29 Suc wrote:
I just tell people my race straight away, solves the problem. Some people say what their race isn't to trick the other player while doing a cheese, such as telling a Protoss that they're Zerg while going 3rax all-in.
I must admit this is less of an issue at my level where I mass game and encounter the same people frequently on the ladder, most people I encounter know by now I don't lie^^.
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