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13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
August 29 2012 04:58 GMT
#461
On August 29 2012 13:54 imEnex wrote:
Don't worry, the KeSPA players are going to get ALOT better over the next year or so, the skill gap is going to increase, making the BW players for favourable

p.s. IMHO


What? wrong thread?
and my axe
FortMonty
Profile Joined May 2012
United States63 Posts
August 29 2012 06:11 GMT
#462
On August 28 2012 15:40 sfbaydave wrote:
People who play random are indecisive about what race they want to play.
They dont have time to nail down any hardcore strategies, so they need an extra advantage.
They cant win straight up because they're not good enough, so they resort to all-ins.

Obviously they are not serious players, so they shouldnt be treated as such.
So, they will continue on 10 pooling, cannon rushing, or 2 rax/marine all-ining because its all they know how to do.


Nice misconception, actually random players get cheesed more than they actually cheese. Also, if a random player cheeses, he/she is effectively using the advantage given to him/her by playing random which is something I think everyone can agree on is a good idea. However, cheesing as a random is actually quite hard since there exists that mis conception that Randoms are "only" cheesers so everyone plays Extra defensive.

Please don't pretend to know what you're talking about, I all-in, cheese, and play standard and play non-standard and I'm a random player. Isolating randoms as majority cheesers is just ignorant.
Expect Nothing, Prepare for Anything.
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 29 2012 06:24 GMT
#463
i always do random and then eco cheese :D everyone plays slightly safer
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 29 2012 06:29 GMT
#464
On August 26 2012 11:28 PowerDes wrote:
Out of curiosity - at what level are the people arguing against random actually playing at?


I smiled reading this.
W00tbeer1
Profile Joined August 2011
United States33 Posts
August 29 2012 13:23 GMT
#465
Makes sense. Random is a good way to get the feel and mechanics of each race. Also good for getting them portraits.
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
August 29 2012 15:06 GMT
#466
On August 29 2012 13:46 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 15:40 sfbaydave wrote:
People who play random are indecisive about what race they want to play.
They dont have time to nail down any hardcore strategies, so they need an extra advantage.
They cant win straight up because they're not good enough, so they resort to all-ins.

Obviously they are not serious players, so they shouldnt be treated as such.
So, they will continue on 10 pooling, cannon rushing, or 2 rax/marine all-ining because its all they know how to do.

LOL "serious players"
Do tell me, how "serious" do you take SC2? Enough to give up everything to pursue the career of a pro-gamer? If not, then I advise you to shut up and get out of your little bubble because you're just playing for fun like everybody else. Grow up.


Quite a straw man, you don't need to be a pro gamer to take gaming seriously, if that were the case then the SC2 Strategy sub-forum wouldn't exist since 99% of the people posting there are not pros.
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
August 29 2012 15:19 GMT
#467
I am going to start playing random with a smurf account, imo it will be very fun to play because i will not get mad everytime i will screw something!
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 15:24:04
August 29 2012 15:23 GMT
#468
Most tournaments dont allow random. I always just allin random players on ladder, even if they're a "macro" player.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 29 2012 15:25 GMT
#469
On August 30 2012 00:23 LuckyFool wrote:
Most tournaments dont allow random. I always just allin random players on ladder, even if they're a "macro" player.

Why you gotta do things like this to me :<
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