EPTGod this thread is dumb.
Why you shouldnt be playing random on ladder. - Page 8
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how2TL
1197 Posts
God this thread is dumb. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On August 23 2012 13:27 docvoc wrote: I like how all the peole that were hiding from the other don't play random posts have now come out and are attacking this one for its logic. I'm really confused as to why anyone would play random and not drop a dice and give 2 different numbers to each race. That would be the same thing, and not confuse opponents, but hey whatever floats your boat. Because I don't want to do that? It's fucking tedious. I'll tell my race, if you don't believe me I don't really care. It's an option in the game and I choose to use it though. Unbelievable people can cry about an option given to people in the game. How is it any different than crying that I don't play standard, or something of that nature? | ||
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whatevername
471 Posts
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joshie0808
Canada1024 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
On August 23 2012 13:59 whatevername wrote: Random players are kind of idiots. If you want to have a feel for each race, just PICK terran, then PICK zerg, then PICK protoss. Vary in whatever amount you want. You dont even really get a feel for the race, because everyone and their mother makes a fucking point to insult you, cheese you, leave rather than play you, or are just generally forced to divert from their regular build in order to stay safe. Oh god, really? Calling a whole group of people who play random for a variety of reasons, idiots? I know when I play random...it's just for fun, not knowing my race until the game pops...for a breath of fresh air. | ||
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freakhill
Japan463 Posts
On August 23 2012 13:59 whatevername wrote: Random players are kind of idiots. If you want to have a feel for each race, just PICK terran, then PICK zerg, then PICK protoss. Vary in whatever amount you want. You dont even really get a feel for the race, because everyone and their mother makes a fucking point to insult you, cheese you, leave rather than play you, or are just generally forced to divert from their regular build in order to stay safe. Random players are having fun! What a bunch of idiots! | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On August 23 2012 14:25 freakhill wrote: Random players are having fun! What a bunch of idiots!  | ||
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FortMonty
United States63 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
This is a game and the ladder where it is the only real, simple, effortless arena to play it in. As a random player I don't care about how this affects you or what I'm learning, I'm doing this for enjoyment. Consequently no amount of threads, arguements or reasoning will convince me otherwise. I derive the most enjoyment from random and I don't plan on stopping. Yes this is entirely selfish, and yes this may not help me improve, but really does playing on ladder and going FFE EVERY SINGLE PvZ really do anything different. No, it doesnt. You learn how to play one way against one opening and one playstyle. Maybe you should play gateway openings more often, you might learn something. The question of whether I cheese or not is entirely irrelevant by this OPs reasoning. To be quite honest I would rather see a thread entitled, "why 6-pool or 8 minute banebust is a waste of everyone's time," because I think that is more of an issue than the 1 in 30 random players. I get cheesed by some garbage strat every other game, and for me, that's a bigger waste of time and bigger nuisance than the occasional, once a week, random player. That being said I don't go around making threads about it, because I understand that everyone plays this game for their owns reasons and they're welcomed to it. Maybe for the cheesing individual he just wants wins as fast as possible or maybe he just feeds off the anger and tears of other ladder players. Whatever the case, that's his prerogative, and as much as I don't share or respect it, it's his decision and he's welcome to play whatever style he wants. By the same token I also reserve the right to rage all over him every game, probably just feeding his fire, but whatever. This whole you randoms should be doing X arguement is a pile of garbage. It's a game, and everyone who plays it should be entitled to do whatever the hell they want, as long they aren't be malicious or breaking the ToS. It's a free world and a free battle.net, trying to make arbitrary rules for one set of players is stupid. | ||
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On August 23 2012 09:59 hahagag wrote: You could always just tell the other person your race. It'd be unwise of them to trust you, though. People lie. I've had randoms lie to me about their race before. Even if you are being honest, it's still better to discard it as useless information. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Or scout somewhat earlier or something so he can see your unit. | ||
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FortMonty
United States63 Posts
On August 23 2012 14:32 ROOTdrewbie wrote: if you want to play random, just tell your opponent what race you are ... ez :D Yeah tell them a race and lie about it.:D Me: "Hey I'm a Zerg." Him: "Thanks Bro!" *Forge FE* Me: "Btw, there's this new buff that allows a Zerg to make Stalkers and Zealots, it's actually about the same speed as a 4 gate!" Him: "You scrub..." *leaves game* What did we learn today?:3 | ||
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IceSlipper
Australia1028 Posts
What you are saying is you shouldn't play random because you don't learn the standard p/t/z metagame. And you claim proof to this is that players don't react in standard metagame ways. Extremely flawed because therefor random has its own metagame. If anything this is an advantage as you will most likely get much more practice against non-random players and see how they react than they will against random players. If players react to getting a random opponent in a non-standard way, then random has its own metagame, which if you want to play random is just as much worth learning about as the p/t/z metagames. | ||
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Greenwizard
48 Posts
The reasons posted in this topic are so crap it's incredible... : 1. The hate ... i admit randoms get more hate sometimes but in the lower levels.. and don't tell me you never got any hate by playing p, z or t ...there is somebody who always rages. 2. The you are not learning because you don't face standard builds ... for example the famous PvR(zerg) - i assume in your incredible judgement you realized what's standard in pvz it's not standard in pvr. When i meet a protoss on ladder , i expect 2 gate proxy , it's standard for random. There are lots of other build that usually happen versus random but not in general , mainly cheese. 3. The "you can't defend hatch first versus 1 gate zelot pressure" especially if the gate is in his main .... let's be serious really proves your understanding of the game. 4. The random people cheese the most ... when people say i proxy 2 gate , 6 pool etc. I admit i all in sometimes , but hey remember what would should a "standard zerg" do in zvp if protoss goes 1 gate expand with no cannons ? What does a "standard zerg" do when terran goes 3 cc , double ebay - clocked banshee ? The random guy does 6 pool ... oh wait wasn't there a guide posted "6 pooling to GM" or something like that ?. Didn't we have that 2 rax rush with call supply that kind of owned people ? The list can go on. 5. The feel the race ... i don't wanna bother to explain who goes direcly calling random people idiots... 6. "I am really putting this directly at the randoms on ladder who are plat or below who don't tell their race." - from this i belive you are plat or below , i might be wrong but if anyone belives the reason they can't advance it's because they lose to random players , you should really focus on searching a way to improve your gameplay and not blame the game. In conclusion : you know why there aren't random players at the top? because really good players CAN adapt and undestand the game and random players can't practice 3 times more then a normal player to face the late games. Go watch a guide , ask for help , get better and you will see it's not because of people who play random. I think this should be closed and all the other topics on why we shouldn't play random... there are insults posted here and nothing is done. Sorry for my typos. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
(From a 2 years High Masters Random player) EDIT: Dammit, guy above me beat me to it, haha. <3 | ||
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DeVx
United States98 Posts
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