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On August 27 2012 07:49 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 08:48 SirPinky wrote:On August 21 2012 21:00 killy666 wrote:
I could totally see this happen. Stephano's in it to make as much money as possible before retiring to get on with med school, and EG seems to be one of the most established non korean teams in terms of budget / sponsorship. Let's not kid ourselves: I graduated from a top UC in 2005 and you know how many friends said they were "pre-med" at 19, only to work outside of the medical industry on a more attainable, career choice? That's a rhetorical question. And you don't go to med school at 19; you first have to go to college and major Bio, then apply to med school. With the past controversy with Stephano such as blowing off tournaments he committed to it is obvious he is in e-sports for one thing - money. Which is not a bad thing but you can't have both aspirations for a grandiose career like a doctorate and play games all day for a living...reality check. As for EG, as many eluded to already, they have a habit for overpaying for talent just to have them fizzle out shortly afterward. But good luck Stephano and the team that recruits him. I don't know about France, but in countries around here, you go to med school at 18/19. We do not really have the institution of college. After you finish gymnasium (or other equivalent of high school, just with higher standards than high school) you directly go to university. Doctors attend the medical program for 6 years.
In the US Medical school is handled at a graduate level. They have extremely non-specific requirements, but generally speaking, you need some sort of Biology BA or BS, and you need to place high enough in the MCAT and GRE exams. So the basic progression is:
High School -> College/University (4-5 years, BA/BS in Biology) -> MCAT and GRE -> Medical School (6ish years?)
Also, I don't know the French system. But as Pinky has argued, it's not likely that the systems are dramatically different. Even our systems are similar. But given this line "In France, the duration of medical school is perhaps the longest to complete in French higher education" from wikipedia, I suspect the standards are even higher in France.
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SirPinky doesn't know much about medical school!
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On August 25 2012 21:12 31415926535 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 20:30 SirPinky wrote:On August 25 2012 10:29 pwnz0r wrote:On August 25 2012 08:48 SirPinky wrote:On August 21 2012 21:00 killy666 wrote:
I could totally see this happen. Stephano's in it to make as much money as possible before retiring to get on with med school, and EG seems to be one of the most established non korean teams in terms of budget / sponsorship. Let's not kid ourselves: I graduated from a top UC in 2005 and you know how many friends said they were "pre-med" at 19, only to work outside of the medical industry on a more attainable, career choice? That's a rhetorical question. And you don't go to med school at 19; you first have to go to college and major Bio, then apply to med school. With the past controversy with Stephano such as blowing off tournaments he committed to it is obvious he is in e-sports for one thing - money. Which is not a bad thing but you can't have both aspirations for a grandiose career like a doctorate and play games all day for a living...reality check. As for EG, as many eluded to already, they have a habit for overpaying for talent just to have them fizzle out shortly afterward. But good luck Stephano and the team that recruits him. Since when is Stephano American? Your description of the path to medical school is ONLY true in the United States. Almost everywhere else in the world medical school begins as a part of what we Americans call our undergraduate career. I guess your time at a "top UC" didn't teach you to be less ignorant of other nations. You also don't have to major Bio at all to apply to medical school. In fact, the vast majority of medical students were NOT biology majors in undergrad. FYI. I am a medical student at a UC right now, so I'm pretty sure I know how these things work. You're missing the point. Instead you are focusing on smaller, less important, details: The point is he is 19 and currently plays video games all day. I don't care what nation you live in or what the standard practice is of obtaining a doctorate but I'm sure in France it is not dramatically less schooling than in the US (or they would have a ton of incompetent doctors). And as a medical student you should know that there is not much of a life out side of medicine as you begin to finish school and look for residency - playing endless hours of games and travel doesn't fall into that category. I doubt we'll see Stephano leave the scene as long as the money is coming in. FYI: I'm a 30 year old accounting consultant looking to be President right after I leave the accounting scene. If I remember correctly from one of his interview in french, he doesn't aim for a PhD, but for a nurse degree. At least here in Switzerland, that's much shorter studies (like 3-4 years) than to become a physician (which requires a doctorate).
Indeed, in a recent interview he said that he gave up the idea of medical studies, which are as hard in France as anywhere else, and that he planned to start nurse studies instead.
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In USA you can be a nurse in 2 years. (post GED/HS)
The courses are not only shorter, but easier as well.
I'm actually thinking of switching from a 4 years business degree to a 2 year Nursing degree.
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On August 27 2012 08:00 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:49 mcc wrote:On August 25 2012 08:48 SirPinky wrote:On August 21 2012 21:00 killy666 wrote:
I could totally see this happen. Stephano's in it to make as much money as possible before retiring to get on with med school, and EG seems to be one of the most established non korean teams in terms of budget / sponsorship. Let's not kid ourselves: I graduated from a top UC in 2005 and you know how many friends said they were "pre-med" at 19, only to work outside of the medical industry on a more attainable, career choice? That's a rhetorical question. And you don't go to med school at 19; you first have to go to college and major Bio, then apply to med school. With the past controversy with Stephano such as blowing off tournaments he committed to it is obvious he is in e-sports for one thing - money. Which is not a bad thing but you can't have both aspirations for a grandiose career like a doctorate and play games all day for a living...reality check. As for EG, as many eluded to already, they have a habit for overpaying for talent just to have them fizzle out shortly afterward. But good luck Stephano and the team that recruits him. I don't know about France, but in countries around here, you go to med school at 18/19. We do not really have the institution of college. After you finish gymnasium (or other equivalent of high school, just with higher standards than high school) you directly go to university. Doctors attend the medical program for 6 years. In the US Medical school is handled at a graduate level. They have extremely non-specific requirements, but generally speaking, you need some sort of Biology BA or BS, and you need to place high enough in the MCAT and GRE exams. So the basic progression is: High School -> College/University (4-5 years, BA/BS in Biology) -> MCAT and GRE -> Medical School (6ish years?) Also, I don't know the French system. But as Pinky has argued, it's not likely that the systems are dramatically different. Even our systems are similar. But given this line "In France, the duration of medical school is perhaps the longest to complete in French higher education" from wikipedia, I suspect the standards are even higher in France.
no it's high school -> BA/BS in ANY degree while completing ALL the pre-req classes (usually 1 year of organic chem, biology, general chem, physics, english + 1/2 year of calc) -> just MCAT (no GRE) -> Medical school (4 years) -> Residency (2-4 years usually)
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On August 27 2012 08:09 SayGen wrote:
In USA you can be a nurse in 2 years. (post GED/HS)
The courses are not only shorter, but easier as well.
I'm actually thinking of switching from a 4 years business degree to a 2 year Nursing degree.
you can do it in a year.
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On August 27 2012 08:00 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 07:49 mcc wrote:On August 25 2012 08:48 SirPinky wrote:On August 21 2012 21:00 killy666 wrote:
I could totally see this happen. Stephano's in it to make as much money as possible before retiring to get on with med school, and EG seems to be one of the most established non korean teams in terms of budget / sponsorship. Let's not kid ourselves: I graduated from a top UC in 2005 and you know how many friends said they were "pre-med" at 19, only to work outside of the medical industry on a more attainable, career choice? That's a rhetorical question. And you don't go to med school at 19; you first have to go to college and major Bio, then apply to med school. With the past controversy with Stephano such as blowing off tournaments he committed to it is obvious he is in e-sports for one thing - money. Which is not a bad thing but you can't have both aspirations for a grandiose career like a doctorate and play games all day for a living...reality check. As for EG, as many eluded to already, they have a habit for overpaying for talent just to have them fizzle out shortly afterward. But good luck Stephano and the team that recruits him. I don't know about France, but in countries around here, you go to med school at 18/19. We do not really have the institution of college. After you finish gymnasium (or other equivalent of high school, just with higher standards than high school) you directly go to university. Doctors attend the medical program for 6 years. In the US Medical school is handled at a graduate level. They have extremely non-specific requirements, but generally speaking, you need some sort of Biology BA or BS, and you need to place high enough in the MCAT and GRE exams. So the basic progression is: High School -> College/University (4-5 years, BA/BS in Biology) -> MCAT and GRE -> Medical School (6ish years?) Also, I don't know the French system. But as Pinky has argued, it's not likely that the systems are dramatically different. Even our systems are similar. But given this line "In France, the duration of medical school is perhaps the longest to complete in French higher education" from wikipedia, I suspect the standards are even higher in France.
But the point was that in France you start with med school just out of high school not like he argued after college. In Czech med school is also longest program, specifically 6 years, but that is beside the point. Point is that you start med school at 18/19. Pinky later changed his point to arguing that since it is so hard Stephano would not be able to study and play at the same time. But that is red herring since Stephano wants to quit progaming when he goes to study.
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How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer?
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On August 27 2012 08:11 SpecialistSc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:00 Chargelot wrote:On August 27 2012 07:49 mcc wrote:On August 25 2012 08:48 SirPinky wrote:On August 21 2012 21:00 killy666 wrote:
I could totally see this happen. Stephano's in it to make as much money as possible before retiring to get on with med school, and EG seems to be one of the most established non korean teams in terms of budget / sponsorship. Let's not kid ourselves: I graduated from a top UC in 2005 and you know how many friends said they were "pre-med" at 19, only to work outside of the medical industry on a more attainable, career choice? That's a rhetorical question. And you don't go to med school at 19; you first have to go to college and major Bio, then apply to med school. With the past controversy with Stephano such as blowing off tournaments he committed to it is obvious he is in e-sports for one thing - money. Which is not a bad thing but you can't have both aspirations for a grandiose career like a doctorate and play games all day for a living...reality check. As for EG, as many eluded to already, they have a habit for overpaying for talent just to have them fizzle out shortly afterward. But good luck Stephano and the team that recruits him. I don't know about France, but in countries around here, you go to med school at 18/19. We do not really have the institution of college. After you finish gymnasium (or other equivalent of high school, just with higher standards than high school) you directly go to university. Doctors attend the medical program for 6 years. In the US Medical school is handled at a graduate level. They have extremely non-specific requirements, but generally speaking, you need some sort of Biology BA or BS, and you need to place high enough in the MCAT and GRE exams. So the basic progression is: High School -> College/University (4-5 years, BA/BS in Biology) -> MCAT and GRE -> Medical School (6ish years?) Also, I don't know the French system. But as Pinky has argued, it's not likely that the systems are dramatically different. Even our systems are similar. But given this line "In France, the duration of medical school is perhaps the longest to complete in French higher education" from wikipedia, I suspect the standards are even higher in France. no it's high school -> BA/BS in ANY degree while completing ALL the pre-req classes (usually 1 year of organic chem, biology, general chem, physics, english + 1/2 year of calc) -> just MCAT (no GRE) -> Medical school (4 years) -> Residency (2-4 years usually)
Good luck knowing enough biology, chemistry, physics, and with your MCAT with a BA in Criminal Justice (An idea of the requirements). And yes, some medical schools attached to larger universities still require a GRE. The AMCAS has very low requirements (the listed classes), the medical schools themselves typically don't.
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On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer?
If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P
btw, if it's like most big sports it's a monthly salary.
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On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P
So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income.
How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months?
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Good luck knowing enough biology, chemistry, physics, and with your MCAT with a BA in Criminal Justice (An idea of the requirements). And yes, some medical schools attached to larger universities still require a GRE. The AMCAS has very low requirements (the listed classes), the medical schools themselves typically don't.
why is this even relevant to Europe and more specifically France. In the UK you only need "high school grades" and some extra curricular activities.
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On August 27 2012 08:40 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income. How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months?
Well 8 months is weird. it's usually either 6, 12, or 24 months. Again, I'm just talking deep from my ass. But thats how it is in the sports world. Well in the sports world, it's mostly 2-3 year contracts, if its big names. I doubt esports teams sign for that long, since the sport is young and who knows what'll happen. But my guess is if the team is big, that they sign Stephano for at least a year.
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On August 27 2012 08:46 JacobShock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income. How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months? Well 8 months is weird. it's usually either 6, 12, or 24 months. Again, I'm just talking deep from my ass. But thats how it is in the sports world. Well in the sports world, it's mostly 2-3 year contracts, if its big names. I doubt esports teams sign for that long, since the sport is young and who knows what'll happen. But my guess is if the team is big, that they sign Stephano for at least a year.
So essentially we could see Stephano guaranteeing that he'll stick around for his contract duration but who knows where he'll go afterwards.
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On August 21 2012 21:07 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 21:04 justiceknight wrote:
seriously why EG?? Alot of players who are good in the past and then join EG, we already know what happened to them... only good player to fall after joining EG was huk imho, and he was pretty decent for the first 6 months. thorzain was always sorta wacky, demuslim is still a force to be reckoned with, idra is idra, machine, incontrol and lzgamer werent top top top tier to begin with. JYP is getting better in EG....
Players ups and downs really have little to do with their team situation...passed if they can devote 100% of their efforts to SC2 if they so choose. So if a player doesn't have life circumstances to slow them down, if they get better or worse it's really just on the player. Also sc2 is super competitive and very very very few have been able to be consistent.
To be totally honest it wasn't loads different in the BW scene, there were the select few who could remain on top for years (see flash, jaedong, etc.) but there was a metric ton of other players who came and went over the years.
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On August 27 2012 08:53 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:46 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income. How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months? Well 8 months is weird. it's usually either 6, 12, or 24 months. Again, I'm just talking deep from my ass. But thats how it is in the sports world. Well in the sports world, it's mostly 2-3 year contracts, if its big names. I doubt esports teams sign for that long, since the sport is young and who knows what'll happen. But my guess is if the team is big, that they sign Stephano for at least a year. So essentially we could see Stephano guaranteeing that he'll stick around for his contract duration but who knows where he'll go afterwards.
Yeah I think it's safe to assume that Stephano will fulfill his contract and stick around til it ends. I'm not sure how easily you get out of contracts in esports, but in football for instance it's quite difficult and expensive. The big questions we are left with though, is who will Stephano actually sign with? And for how long?
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On August 27 2012 09:03 JacobShock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:53 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:46 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income. How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months? Well 8 months is weird. it's usually either 6, 12, or 24 months. Again, I'm just talking deep from my ass. But thats how it is in the sports world. Well in the sports world, it's mostly 2-3 year contracts, if its big names. I doubt esports teams sign for that long, since the sport is young and who knows what'll happen. But my guess is if the team is big, that they sign Stephano for at least a year. So essentially we could see Stephano guaranteeing that he'll stick around for his contract duration but who knows where he'll go afterwards. Yeah I think it's safe to assume that Stephano will fulfill his contract and stick around til it ends. I'm not sure how easily you get out of contracts in esports, but in football for instance it's quite difficult and expensive. The big questions we are left with though, is who will Stephano actually sign with? And for how long?
When is that information gonna be released?
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On August 27 2012 09:15 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:03 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:53 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:46 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income. How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months? Well 8 months is weird. it's usually either 6, 12, or 24 months. Again, I'm just talking deep from my ass. But thats how it is in the sports world. Well in the sports world, it's mostly 2-3 year contracts, if its big names. I doubt esports teams sign for that long, since the sport is young and who knows what'll happen. But my guess is if the team is big, that they sign Stephano for at least a year. So essentially we could see Stephano guaranteeing that he'll stick around for his contract duration but who knows where he'll go afterwards. Yeah I think it's safe to assume that Stephano will fulfill his contract and stick around til it ends. I'm not sure how easily you get out of contracts in esports, but in football for instance it's quite difficult and expensive. The big questions we are left with though, is who will Stephano actually sign with? And for how long? When is that information gonna be released?
I think Stephano himself said soon after MLG. Thats all I've heard.
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On August 27 2012 09:15 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:03 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:53 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:46 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2012 08:38 JacobShock wrote:On August 27 2012 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
How does a salary work? Is it a monthly thing or yearly? Last I checked, Stephano wanted to make some money before heading off to university. So will he just maul faces for another several months and then retire or do you guys think that he wants to stick with SC2 for a bit longer? If you like/love money and you sign a standard two year contract (if this is the case) for a ton of money, what would you do? =P So essentially your guess is that he'll stick around for a bit longer and get more stable income. How long CAN a contract be? Could we see Stephano signing up with team A for 8 months? Well 8 months is weird. it's usually either 6, 12, or 24 months. Again, I'm just talking deep from my ass. But thats how it is in the sports world. Well in the sports world, it's mostly 2-3 year contracts, if its big names. I doubt esports teams sign for that long, since the sport is young and who knows what'll happen. But my guess is if the team is big, that they sign Stephano for at least a year. So essentially we could see Stephano guaranteeing that he'll stick around for his contract duration but who knows where he'll go afterwards. Yeah I think it's safe to assume that Stephano will fulfill his contract and stick around til it ends. I'm not sure how easily you get out of contracts in esports, but in football for instance it's quite difficult and expensive. The big questions we are left with though, is who will Stephano actually sign with? And for how long? When is that information gonna be released?
Some time this week.
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O this is awesome for stephano.
Hope they pay him realy well,he definatly worth it.
He and idra (and maybe huk) are the only 2 players "everyone" knows here in the west, even people who dont follow the scene know them.
Will only be good for esports if the most popular players can make a bit more then the minimum wage wich seems standard for most pro sc players.
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