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Abacus1
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia45 Posts
August 08 2012 06:19 GMT
#81
I gotta say this is a pretty fantastic long term plan. Really shows that both parties want to make sure SC2 has the best opportunity of taking off where Brood War finished up. Its a long time but in the overall scheme of things its a great step.
'We all got our choices to make...'
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
August 08 2012 06:20 GMT
#82
On August 08 2012 15:16 starception wrote:
Is it possible for some rich company like Microsoft or apple or maybe even a Team Blizzard to step in and buy the best/most famous from GOM and kespa? Like a team with DRG MKP mc MVP Taeja NesTea flash Jaedong Bisu Soulkey etc?



Even if they could, what would be the point? Noone would watching Starcraft anymore because it would be one team wrecking everyone else.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 06:25:22
August 08 2012 06:24 GMT
#83
On August 08 2012 15:15 DMXD wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100255
relevance to this thread somewhat..it is interesting though. =D

ah wow, nice read. didn't expect contracts to be so public :o especially with all the sc2 contract hidden-ness haha
i reckon EG or coL maybe would be able to shell out $120k per year (rough 130mw or around jaedong's old contract price), especially cos huk was rumoured to have 100k+ contract
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 08 2012 06:26 GMT
#84
2010 Salaries
That may or may not be accurate. I'm sure they're lower now considering how the scene is struggling.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
August 08 2012 06:26 GMT
#85
This is very good for continued development of SC2 scene in Korea. What this provides is the stability, which allows both sides to focus only on improving the quality of SC2 contents for fans. For once, Kespa did the right thing.

On the other hand, MBC is looking like an idiot for dropping their e-sports division for a music channel. What a dumb retarded move...
TranceKuja
Profile Joined May 2011
United States154 Posts
August 08 2012 06:28 GMT
#86
Very smart move. This will give the BW players time to get used to SC2.
Winning
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
August 08 2012 06:29 GMT
#87
On August 08 2012 15:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 15:15 DMXD wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100255
relevance to this thread somewhat..it is interesting though. =D

ah wow, nice read. didn't expect contracts to be so public :o especially with all the sc2 contract hidden-ness haha
i reckon EG or coL maybe would be able to shell out $120k per year (rough 130mw or around jaedong's old contract price), especially cos huk was rumoured to have 100k+ contract


That may be his contract price, but the kespa players won't budge without bonuses too.
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
August 08 2012 06:31 GMT
#88
Finally, I'm glad this is happening. There'll be stability within the scene and make GTSLs and proleague mean more. Really liking this decision.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 06:33:48
August 08 2012 06:33 GMT
#89
On August 08 2012 15:29 viasacra89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 15:24 opterown wrote:
On August 08 2012 15:15 DMXD wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100255
relevance to this thread somewhat..it is interesting though. =D

ah wow, nice read. didn't expect contracts to be so public :o especially with all the sc2 contract hidden-ness haha
i reckon EG or coL maybe would be able to shell out $120k per year (rough 130mw or around jaedong's old contract price), especially cos huk was rumoured to have 100k+ contract


That may be his contract price, but the kespa players won't budge without bonuses too.

yeah, i know, still pretty cool

makes me wonder how much sc2 players on teams without many sponsors are paid.
e.g. nshoseo is a college team, jjakji can't be paid very much. also prime probably doesn't have much pay either hrmm. can't really imagine many teams apart from LG-IM and maybe ST that can pay well?

hope sc2 teams get big sponsors too soon :D
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 06:38:06
August 08 2012 06:34 GMT
#90
Does anyone have a list of teams who are in the eSports Federation? Liquipedia is unhelpful on the matter.

I'm guessing there's no specific trade lock on teams not in the federation, though I'm sure KeSPA would love for there to be.

edit: According to this, the teams are:
Startale, IM, Prime, MVP, NSHoseo, FXO, and TSL
.

So not SlayerS, and no "foreign" teams besides FXO.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 06:38:03
August 08 2012 06:37 GMT
#91
What if the Kespa team's sponsors are pulling out because "OSL ends" and other things like sc2 lacks popularity.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 08 2012 06:40 GMT
#92
What about coaches?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 08 2012 06:44 GMT
#93
Expected about six months or so, was on the long end of my expectations.
Spektrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
August 08 2012 06:44 GMT
#94
Could a player use an intermediary to facilitate a transfer? For example, some Kespa team player leaves, gets sponsored by Random Company for some specific tournament, then joins eSports Fed team. Viable?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 08 2012 06:47 GMT
#95
On August 08 2012 14:24 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
For the next thirteen months, the Korean eSports Association (KeSPA) and eSports Federation cannot transfer players to each other. This trade lock period will last until October 2013.

On Wednesday, August 8th, KeSPA, a governing organization over Proleague, and eSports Fed., which participate in GSTL, came to an official agreement on the matter of player transfers.

Both parties restated their goal on joint development of the e-sports scene and signed an agreement on player transfers and partnerships to protect both players and the leagues. They stated that the agreement will allow eSports Federation to aquire new sponsors and be self-sustainable, while KeSPA players switching to StarCraft 2 can become competitive in the long run.


Read more at: http://esfiworld.com/news/kespa-esports-fed-agree-trade-lock-until-oct-2013

Oops, title was too long for actual thread. October 2013. Not October 2012.

I like the move. Will let teams like TSL, Prime, etc. still looking for big sponsors like Startale/IM be able to keep their star players and attract said sponsors. Will give the KeSPA players the peace of mind to know that their team won't just go off and buy a bunch of GSL players who are already two years more developed and probably cheaper.


Very good news indeed.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 06:48:02
August 08 2012 06:47 GMT
#96
On August 08 2012 15:44 Spektrum wrote:
Could a player use an intermediary to facilitate a transfer? For example, some Kespa team player leaves, gets sponsored by Random Company for some specific tournament, then joins eSports Fed team. Viable?

i can't imagine many kespa players wanting to switch to ESF teams unless they reallyyy want the practice partners/ability to compete unrestricted in foreign tournaments, because kespa has (i assume) a lot more money to pay.
they still have the ladder for practice i guess
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
August 08 2012 06:48 GMT
#97
On August 08 2012 14:56 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 14:48 Fionn wrote:
On August 08 2012 14:43 Lokerek wrote:
On August 08 2012 14:33 snafoo wrote:
On August 08 2012 14:31 figq wrote:
No EG.Flash vs Liquid`Jaedong anytime soon then.


Hint: they probably couldn't afford them anyway >.>


Flash maybe but EG.Jaedong doesn't seem too unreal.

EG loves hype and they excel at promoting their sponsors.

Just think how Jaedong is popular outside of Korea,
getting extra money from sponsors for that kind of exposure
shouldn't be too much of a problem.


If EG wanted Jaedong, they'd have to cut their entire team.

It would literally be Scoots and Jaedong.


There is no way jaedong makes as much money now as he did back when he was able to win a tournament, or was on a team that had sponsors.

Wrong. His salary increased since he started playing for T8.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 08 2012 06:48 GMT
#98
Good thing to know that my 19th birthday will mean the rise of Liquid`Bisu, Kiett might faint into Sayle's arms though haha.
User was warned for too many mimes.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 08 2012 06:49 GMT
#99
Not surprising. It was even mentioned in one of the rumors threads.

-All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year.


Also, this quote from the article is especially interesting.:

Any GSL players not included in the 25-player roster from the Federation as well as players qualified in the KeSPA-hosted amateur tournament (formerly known as the Courage Match) will be able to join KeSPA teams during its draft period.


So will this still mean that if a player purposely drops out of a team, it will be possible for them to join a KeSPA team? And I find this "KeSPA-hosted amateur tournament" intriguing considering that it's supposed to replace Courage.

Also:
Meanwhile, a pro gamer license given by KeSPA will be distributed to current StarCraft 2 players. Any players previously qualified in GSL Code S and Code A can opt to apply for Progamer status, and once the required professionalism seminars are completed, a Progamer license for StarCraft 2 will be awarded to them.


So it does seem that KeSPA is still sticking to its old Progamer license tradition, though with Code A being a qualifier for the time being. Would this be a requirement for playing in Proleague and OSL? Would it extend to the partnerships that the GSL teams and foreign teams have? And those professionalism seminars often have photos of progamers sleeping through them in the audience haha.
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Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
August 08 2012 06:50 GMT
#100
Too long...
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