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[MLG] Format Changes at the Summer Championship - Page 2

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LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
July 27 2012 21:35 GMT
#21
I like the new format

But I agree with everyone else that something needs to be done about the map pool...
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 27 2012 21:37 GMT
#22
In case MLG is clueless :

- Goldminerals on Antiga need to go ( perhaps the map too )
- Shakuras and Taldarim are too old.
- Get Ohana in.
- Stop modifying maps, there's a reason mapmakers make them like they are. ( metropolis island )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 27 2012 21:37 GMT
#23
Interesting format, can't wait to see how it works out! I'll also join the others in asking for an updated map pool...can't be that hard to change!
dextrin303
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden320 Posts
July 27 2012 21:40 GMT
#24
"-MLG Antiga Shipyard has High Yield Minerals

-MLG Metropolis - Island expansions removed"

why....
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
July 27 2012 21:40 GMT
#25
On July 28 2012 06:37 Noocta wrote:
In case MLG is clueless :

- Goldminerals on Antiga need to go ( perhaps the map too )
- Shakuras and Taldarim are too old.
- Get Ohana in.
- Stop modifying maps, there's a reason mapmakers make them like they are. ( metropolis island )


Are there really still golds on antiga? I thought everyone had fixed them to blues a long long time ago.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:42:48
July 27 2012 21:41 GMT
#26
" 24 players–including the Top 16 from the Summer Arena and eight players that will be announced later–will start in Group Play. They will eventually be joined by the last eight Open Winners Bracket Players."

Anyone else wondering about this? I'm thinking it might be 8 kespa guys (in fact I'd be willing to bet that it is) but still, not sure how I feel about this if they're invites and not qualifiers, which it sounds like is whats happening

EDIT: Because mules are no longer rediculous on gold bases I don't think its necessarily bad that theres still gold bases
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 27 2012 21:43 GMT
#27
Why not just make it a 32 players (16 from open bracket, top 16 from Arena) groupstage (8 groups with 4 players) where the top 2 of each group advance and then play in a ro16 single elimination bracket.

Much simpler than the confusing shit you're doing with the championship bracket and much more exciting for the viewer.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:45:29
July 27 2012 21:45 GMT
#28
On July 28 2012 06:43 Champloo wrote:
Why not just make it a 32 players (16 from open bracket, top 16 from Arena) groupstage (8 groups with 4 players) where the top 2 of each group advance and then play in a ro16 single elimination bracket.

Much simpler than the confusing shit you're doing with the championship bracket and much more exciting for the viewer.

Because then the open bracket becomes a complete mess and would take a long time to complete.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 27 2012 21:45 GMT
#29
On July 28 2012 06:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
" 24 players–including the Top 16 from the Summer Arena and eight players that will be announced later–will start in Group Play. They will eventually be joined by the last eight Open Winners Bracket Players."

Anyone else wondering about this? I'm thinking it might be 8 kespa guys (in fact I'd be willing to bet that it is) but still, not sure how I feel about this if they're invites and not qualifiers, which it sounds like is whats happening

EDIT: Because mules are no longer rediculous on gold bases I don't think its necessarily bad that theres still gold bases


That would also be my guess. Not really a point to a partnership with KeSPA if MLG isn't going to bring over their players. I'm guessing one player from each team minus Ace.
Fearlezz
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:48:48
July 27 2012 21:46 GMT
#30
Terrible, terrible map pool. I think this is the only area where your tournaments are way behind the competition. Really not looking forward watching these bad, old maps. It's embarrassing really.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
July 27 2012 21:47 GMT
#31
I agree with changing the map pool. I honestly prefer Pool Play as opposed to Group Play Double-Elimination style but we'll have to see how the new format works out. Oh, and I'm glad that extended series is finally over with!
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 27 2012 21:47 GMT
#32
On July 28 2012 06:45 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:43 Champloo wrote:
Why not just make it a 32 players (16 from open bracket, top 16 from Arena) groupstage (8 groups with 4 players) where the top 2 of each group advance and then play in a ro16 single elimination bracket.

Much simpler than the confusing shit you're doing with the championship bracket and much more exciting for the viewer.

Because then the open bracket becomes a complete mess and would take a long time to complete.


How would that change the length of the open bracket? Just play double elimination like they do now and stop when 16 players are left.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
July 27 2012 21:48 GMT
#33
On July 28 2012 06:45 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
" 24 players–including the Top 16 from the Summer Arena and eight players that will be announced later–will start in Group Play. They will eventually be joined by the last eight Open Winners Bracket Players."

Anyone else wondering about this? I'm thinking it might be 8 kespa guys (in fact I'd be willing to bet that it is) but still, not sure how I feel about this if they're invites and not qualifiers, which it sounds like is whats happening

EDIT: Because mules are no longer rediculous on gold bases I don't think its necessarily bad that theres still gold bases


That would also be my guess. Not really a point to a partnership with KeSPA if MLG isn't going to bring over their players. I'm guessing one player from each team minus Ace.


Eh I'm thinking more of "popular" players that can't qualify for anything with actual competition. You can fill in the blanks. Sundance and MLGAdam have said multiple times that they don't want to see nothing but Koreans because it does hurt them viewer wise.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
July 27 2012 21:49 GMT
#34
Is it that hard to change a map pool?

Shakuras and tal'darim already weren't acceptable 6 months ago

Gold minerals should already have disappeared from any acceptable map pool a while ago
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:53:09
July 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#35
On July 28 2012 06:47 Champloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:45 ssg wrote:
On July 28 2012 06:43 Champloo wrote:
Why not just make it a 32 players (16 from open bracket, top 16 from Arena) groupstage (8 groups with 4 players) where the top 2 of each group advance and then play in a ro16 single elimination bracket.

Much simpler than the confusing shit you're doing with the championship bracket and much more exciting for the viewer.

Because then the open bracket becomes a complete mess and would take a long time to complete.


How would that change the length of the open bracket? Just play double elimination like they do now and stop when 16 players are left.

Because once you lose once, you are eliminated from championship bracket. The loser's bracket then plays alongside the Championship bracket.
zasghu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden35 Posts
July 27 2012 21:53 GMT
#36
Haha, funny that mlg can't say they did get rid of the extended series rule. A bit to prode.
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
July 27 2012 21:53 GMT
#37
Well if the extended series ended MLG is a step closer to being better. Now they just need to update the map pool so that it doesn't have maps with gold minerals and outdated maps.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:56:02
July 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#38
On July 28 2012 06:29 Roxor9999 wrote:
Why do they have to make such a weird format when it can be so easily fixed.

Because they refuse to confess that the extendes series rule was a bad choice...
The only problem I have with the new system is if one part of the bracket is way more stacked than the other, meaning the finals might be pretty lackluster but they mostly are anyways :/
Tal'Darim and Shakuras, really? I think Testbug should have a place then aswell
Oh and I just noticed "MLG Metropolis - Island expansions removed" HAHA WHAT?!
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
July 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#39
what the fuck are these maps? you gotta be kidding me -.-
i love you
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#40
On July 28 2012 06:52 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:47 Champloo wrote:
On July 28 2012 06:45 ssg wrote:
On July 28 2012 06:43 Champloo wrote:
Why not just make it a 32 players (16 from open bracket, top 16 from Arena) groupstage (8 groups with 4 players) where the top 2 of each group advance and then play in a ro16 single elimination bracket.

Much simpler than the confusing shit you're doing with the championship bracket and much more exciting for the viewer.

Because then the open bracket becomes a complete mess and would take a long time to complete.


How would that change the length of the open bracket? Just play double elimination like they do now and stop when 16 players are left.

Because once you lose once, you are eliminated from championship bracket.


I don't think you got my initial post, there should be no championship bracket. Just play the open bracket till 16 players are left. These 16 players then go into a normal round robin groupstage with the top 16 from Arena.
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