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[MLG] Format Changes at the Summer Championship - Page 3

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chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 22:01:39
July 27 2012 21:55 GMT
#41
At this point I am speechless about both format and map pool. 2 years later, still same bad shit.
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Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
July 27 2012 21:56 GMT
#42
My god is the map pool bad.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:57:12
July 27 2012 21:56 GMT
#43
I like the group play very much, should make the earlier games much more exciting.

On the other hand, i agree with most of the people here that the map pool could use some modifications. Like gold minerals on antiga or shakuras in general. Also, don't like TDA in tournaments because of the positions and pvp on that map.

not to mention extended series..

Overall, mlgs are getting better and better, so no hard feelings
gasmeter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom251 Posts
July 27 2012 21:56 GMT
#44
Everything sounds great, apart from the map pool. I am getting a little tired of the same maps all the time as I'm sure a lot of people would agree.
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MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
July 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#45
That map pool is so awful I would get rid of 5 of those maps as they are now.

Having Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak as your only decent maps in a pool of 7 is rather poor on MLG's part
k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
July 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#46
MLG Antiga Shipyard has High Yield Minerals


for the love of god whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
July 27 2012 22:00 GMT
#47
On July 28 2012 06:45 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:43 Champloo wrote:
Why not just make it a 32 players (16 from open bracket, top 16 from Arena) groupstage (8 groups with 4 players) where the top 2 of each group advance and then play in a ro16 single elimination bracket.

Much simpler than the confusing shit you're doing with the championship bracket and much more exciting for the viewer.

Because then the open bracket becomes a complete mess and would take a long time to complete.


Out of curiousity. How would this make the open bracket a complete mess?
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dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
July 27 2012 22:00 GMT
#48
On July 28 2012 06:56 gasmeter wrote:
Everything sounds great, apart from the map pool. I am getting a little tired of the same maps all the time as I'm sure a lot of people would agree.

not even that we're tired of seeing them, its the obvious fucking imbalances in them.

i dont understand how they can fuck this up so bad. just take gsl's maps or something. but tal darim altar? shakuras? omg....
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Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 27 2012 22:01 GMT
#49
On July 28 2012 06:56 Yorbon wrote:
I like the group play very much, should make the earlier games much more exciting.


No, it's still the same meaningless group play. You can't get eliminated in group, you just get seeded lower in the championship bracket.

No idea who invents these systems for MLG, but they're horrible. You know why all the other tournaments use normal systems? Cause they work and are exciting to watch.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
July 27 2012 22:01 GMT
#50
I feel like I might miss group play but I will just have to wait and see ^_^
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Fearlezz
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia176 Posts
July 27 2012 22:01 GMT
#51
Please read this MLG: Tournament Map Pool Creation Guide.

Your current map pool makes you look like you're stuck in 2011.
MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
July 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#52
Well if \Extended series really is gone then MLG should sort their map pool out in around 2 years?
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 22:10:17
July 27 2012 22:05 GMT
#53
On July 28 2012 06:45 setzer wrote:
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On July 28 2012 06:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
" 24 players–including the Top 16 from the Summer Arena and eight players that will be announced later–will start in Group Play. They will eventually be joined by the last eight Open Winners Bracket Players."

Anyone else wondering about this? I'm thinking it might be 8 kespa guys (in fact I'd be willing to bet that it is) but still, not sure how I feel about this if they're invites and not qualifiers, which it sounds like is whats happening

EDIT: Because mules are no longer rediculous on gold bases I don't think its necessarily bad that theres still gold bases


That would also be my guess. Not really a point to a partnership with KeSPA if MLG isn't going to bring over their players. I'm guessing one player from each team minus Ace.

It could be somewhat merit-based, as in the best performing players from PL in SC2 or a mini-qualifier for only Kespa individuals. Sure, it's still giving them preference because they only compete with each other, but it's not too different from how Thorzain was invited to an Arena for winning a Dreamhack. No one had a problem with it there, right?

Edit: I don't think extended series is quite gone. Within the different stages there might be extended series (though since rematches can't happen in Open Bracket, only stages 2 and 3 might have them). I think that's the whole point with match history not carrying over from one stage into another. ie, if players A and B meet each other twice in Stage 2, then there will be extended series but if they met once in stage 2 and once in stage 3, then no extended series.

It's pretty nice.
DeVx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States98 Posts
July 27 2012 22:05 GMT
#54
On July 28 2012 07:01 Fearlezz wrote:
Please read this MLG: Tournament Map Pool Creation Guide.

Your current map pool makes you look like you're stuck in 2011.


Couldn't agree more.

KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 27 2012 22:06 GMT
#55
"and eight players that will be announced later"


Kespa, anyone?
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Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 22:08:15
July 27 2012 22:07 GMT
#56
What happens to 6th place and 8th place form group play?

NVM there are 2 5th place and 2 7th place from each group.....
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 27 2012 22:07 GMT
#57
On July 28 2012 07:03 MarcH wrote:
Well if \Extended series really is gone then MLG should sort their map pool out in around 2 years?


It is not really gone, but it has been limited to only functioning within the stage where the first match occurred.

I guess it would be analogous to MLG in two years time having all good maps, but modifying them with having all gold bases, blocked thirds or some other feature not seen in any other competition.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#58
5 maps;
Ohana, Daybreak, Cloud Kingdom, Metropolis, Antiga Shipyard (no gold).

is it rly so hard???
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SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
July 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#59
Hmmm, seems like a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned, but this OP does a pretty lousy job of clearly communicating the new format. I hope the writer is not a paid employee.
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 22:10:27
July 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#60
they must put countless hours into coming up with new formats every event, this map pool is not a product of lazyness

i guess its their policy to not change a mappool for a whole year, in that case its time to change that policy
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