This is actually a decent improvement but it's hard to understand why at first, I had to look at it closely.
Friday is better since there's only 2 games per group broadcast instead of 6, which allows more open bracket games to be casted.
Saturday is better since a double elimination group allows more drama than round robin and is easier to follow, plus winning your group is so important in MLGs and this way each group will have a hopefully broadcasted final.
Sunday is better since you keep the possibility of a Leenock-esque loser's bracket run while having an actual final with no advantage to one player, and the group winners are still rewarded. Also spreading out the OLB players instead of having them kill each other off is nice.
The biggest problems are the map pool and the fact that invites are coming back.
I'm confused at the last stage when it's 24 players + 8 open bracket winners. Does this mean now that if you don't make it to pool play from the open bracket, your tournament is now done? Previously, it was possible although unlikely to still win MLG from the open bracket without making it into pool play but by going through the loser's bracket.
On July 28 2012 07:35 Canucklehead wrote: I'm confused at the last stage when it's 24 players + 8 open bracket winners. Does this mean now that if you don't make it to pool play from the open bracket, your tournament is now done? Previously, it was possible although unlikely to still win MLG from the open bracket without making it into pool play but by going through the loser's bracket.
No it's actually easier to come from the open loser's bracket and win now.
So to give MLG a helping hand I decided to create a good map pool (by asking prodiG on twitter) and here it is
Cloud Kingdom Ohana Daybreak Khaydaria Whirlwind
Thats a small compact map pool only 2 non ladder maps one is used by GSL so is likely to become more common anyway and you only have one sort of new map which is still getting played by top Korean pro's
On July 28 2012 07:37 MarcH wrote: So to give MLG a helping hand I decided to create a good map pool (by asking prodiG on twitter) and here it is
Cloud Kingdom Ohana Daybreak Khaydaria Whirlwind
Thats a small compact map pool only 2 non ladder maps one is used by GSL so is likely to become more common anyway and you only have one sort of new map which is still getting played by top Korean pro's
It's like you understand my fairly simple map pool logic perfectly! <3
Shakuras and Tal'Darim, you must be joking me... it's time to phase them out.
I like the tournament structure change, like how it worked in the Spring Arena. Will be a nightmare for the organizers I think, but the MLG people all have a ton of experience so they should adjust to it pretty well.
On July 28 2012 07:35 Canucklehead wrote: I'm confused at the last stage when it's 24 players + 8 open bracket winners. Does this mean now that if you don't make it to pool play from the open bracket, your tournament is now done? Previously, it was possible although unlikely to still win MLG from the open bracket without making it into pool play but by going through the loser's bracket.
No it's actually easier to come from the open loser's bracket and win now.
Notice how the open loser's players are spread out instead of facing each other in the first round. Look to the far right.
Ah ok, looking at the 2 sample brackets now, 7th/8th from from the 4 groups in stage 2 drop to loser's r1 in champ bracket and will play 8 losers from the open bracket.
Please god do not let the 8 players to be named the kespa guys!!! Please make them my favorite players like DRG, MC, MKP that have a chance to win the whole thing but couldnt make summer arena. I dont want to see the Kespa players get schmanged. If it is Kespa, i would predict that 7 out of 8 would go 0-2 in their series and the other guy would win one series and then lose two series.
MLG "So yeah... We wanted to make sure to have the worst possible map pool along with subtle imbalances to really have an entertaining extended series finals, we're going to start the finals off 2-0 and then follow with Antiga TvZ gold middle then move to Tal darim to make sure it's the worst finals you've EVER seen, what can we say we love esports"
Getting these brackets on LP is gonna be a pain... ;_;
Wait I don't get it. Where did 6th place go? I didn't notice that at first and assumed they just meant 7th/8th in loser's r1 champ bracket instead of 2 7th.