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Protosser joins Mouz, Morrow leaves - Page 8

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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
June 27 2012 16:20 GMT
#141
Obviously gonna be Team Acer.
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
June 27 2012 16:21 GMT
#142
oh, well congrats to protosser
wonder where morrow wil go
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 27 2012 16:21 GMT
#143
On June 28 2012 01:20 Broodwurst wrote:
Obviously gonna be Team Acer.

Not a bad guess :D. You never have enough Zergs these days.
stijn26
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium13 Posts
June 27 2012 16:22 GMT
#144
Acer.Morrow
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
June 27 2012 16:22 GMT
#145
really sad to see good players leave mousesports =(
protosser is a nice add to the line up but first thorzain now morrow thats really bad
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
June 27 2012 16:23 GMT
#146
mouz always seems to be a nice team, but compared to EG or Liquid they dont advertise or use their players in a other way than just giving them their shirt and let them use their tag, kinda sad cuz their roster was/is very strong
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
June 27 2012 16:23 GMT
#147
Really excited that protosser got into such a good team. ^^
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
June 27 2012 16:24 GMT
#148
On June 28 2012 01:08 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 00:13 Tidus Mino wrote:
"extract from www.mousesports.com"

We're shifting gears in our StarCraft II division, as we're signing one of the Swarm's most gifted European players, while waving goodbye to an old veteran and former Grand Champion meanwhile.
Jonne "Protosser" Sotala will join forces with mousesports, becoming the new teammate of DreamHack Summer 2012 champion MaNa. The 18-year-old StarCraft II player from Finland has made an impact at this years DreamHack Summer by beating the favored ThorZaIN aswell as MaNa. Despite his name, Protosser is actually playing Zerg in SC2, while he has been fighting for Aiur in SCBW, and will be the second Zerg in mousesports besides biGs. While he is holding no major championship belt so far, we're very happy for the opportunity to work together with Jonne and let him become of the Europe's finest Zerg players. We're positive that he is able to become a feared competitor among the StarCraft II scene.

Statement Jonne "Protosser" Sotala: "I’m really happy to join mousesports. They have a lot of very good players and I’ve always had a lot of respect for the team. I’m glad get to be part of it now. They are the first well-known team I enter and I believe they will help me to get better as a player in the future. I will do my best to show great results in the upcoming tournaments and also want to thank mousesports and its sponsors GeIL, Razer, CardCoachess, Thortech, MEDION, Intel & Sansibar for giving me this opportunity."

You can find a brief interview with Protosser at the Team Razer Facebook page.

On the other hand, we're waving goodbye to Stefan "MorroW" Andersson, who has been a part of mousesports since StarCraft II Beta, as he joined the family in March 2010. Both parties agreed not to extend to contract, so MorroW becomes a Free Agent for now. Together with MorroW, we're looking back at his IEM gamescom championship, where he became the first major StarCraft II champion, aswell as his second place at Assembly Winter 2011 and his trip to Korea for GSL, not to mention the titles he has won with the SC2 squad in team tournaments. We would like to thank Stefan for the time in mousesports, all the events and matches he has played for the franchise during his contract period.

In his entire career for mousesports there has been only a few players who worked as hard and precise as MorroW - unfortunately with no real reward. We would like to wish him the best in his future career and hope he can catch up to his performances in the past, which he's definitely still capable of.

Goodbye, Mr. Andersson.

Statement Stefan "MorroW" Andersson: "I just want to thank the team for my stay for giving me a lot of opportunities to go to diffierent tournaments around the world as well as my trip to Korea. I've made some great friends during my stay in mousesports and I hope they still give good results regardless if I'm not on the team anymore. I wish them best of luck in the future!"


mousesports StarCraft II division 2012/2013:
Grzegorz "MaNa" Komincz (P)
Dennis "HasuObs" Schneider (P)
Han Sang "biGs" Cho (Z)
Jonne "Protosser" Sotala (Z)
Gabriel "Marine" Segat (T)


The sad truth is that u does not need 1000 thousand hours to be the bast (or actually really good) at SC2, You can perform as well as anyother guy with less pratice...

A really good exemple of this happening is Stephano...he trains like a 10th of what IdrA or other Korean guy AND he can still perform really well.

The ones that win something gets some luck to win, some good decisions(with can came with a pratice, but knowing when and how to attack does not need 1000 hours of pratice, only some hours), timing(same as good decision), new B.O. (witch does not require lots of hours of training but needs some), macro and micro....

SC2 micro and macro are not that hard to learn...so if i know how to use keyboard and mouse very quick and well i can be as good as morrow that lives up to train.

IdrA said it someday and i TOTTALLY agree: "This is a bullshit I play like 10 hours a day everyday i shouldn't be losing to the kinds of him".

SC2 Macro and Micro is not that decisive...what takes more of SC2 early game is B.O. (by far), followed by a timming, followed by some lucy(spoting a scv that's going to see your expo), followed by macro and micro.

In SC2 Lategame the order changes Decision making combined with Luck>>Macro>>Micro(well not that much if you are protoss facing terran)>>B.O.(tech switch)>>Lucky(catching anemy tanks unsieged)

As u can see, factors as Luck, B.O. and decision making takes hard place to win a SC2 game. So those itens does not requires thousand hours of training...that's why morrow does not succeed.

=/

Sad Truth of SC2
=/


what did i just read
SaSe fan club manager
EMoney
Profile Joined June 2012
United States6 Posts
June 27 2012 16:25 GMT
#149
I think Morrow has a strength in practicing in a smart way, where he not only puts in the hours but he is really thinking about the practicing. Analyzing games is probably a big part of that.

Its that kind of strength that I think he could bring to another team to help them all get much better. That sort of practice style and some dedication could make him a really attractive player to almost any team.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
June 27 2012 16:26 GMT
#150
On June 28 2012 00:20 aintz wrote:
first thorzain and now morrow. mouz is getting weaker and weaker


I think Protosser is actually better than Morrow, so Mouz is getting stronger with his addition. The loss of the Thorzain though really weakened Mouz, but Mana is really stepping up.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
June 27 2012 16:26 GMT
#151
Really happy for my fellow countryman.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 27 2012 16:27 GMT
#152
didnt millennium say they are picking up a new player this week or something? plot thickens
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
June 27 2012 16:28 GMT
#153
I heard Acer's Zerg squad is a little underpresented in team leagues... :D
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
MIhata
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria156 Posts
June 27 2012 16:29 GMT
#154
Good luck Morrow!
"Very important caster" - MC about himself. | MC | Boxer | Grubby | Jangbi | MMA | Polt | InCa | Symbol |
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
June 27 2012 16:29 GMT
#155
On June 28 2012 01:08 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 00:13 Tidus Mino wrote:
"extract from www.mousesports.com"

We're shifting gears in our StarCraft II division, as we're signing one of the Swarm's most gifted European players, while waving goodbye to an old veteran and former Grand Champion meanwhile.
Jonne "Protosser" Sotala will join forces with mousesports, becoming the new teammate of DreamHack Summer 2012 champion MaNa. The 18-year-old StarCraft II player from Finland has made an impact at this years DreamHack Summer by beating the favored ThorZaIN aswell as MaNa. Despite his name, Protosser is actually playing Zerg in SC2, while he has been fighting for Aiur in SCBW, and will be the second Zerg in mousesports besides biGs. While he is holding no major championship belt so far, we're very happy for the opportunity to work together with Jonne and let him become of the Europe's finest Zerg players. We're positive that he is able to become a feared competitor among the StarCraft II scene.

Statement Jonne "Protosser" Sotala: "I’m really happy to join mousesports. They have a lot of very good players and I’ve always had a lot of respect for the team. I’m glad get to be part of it now. They are the first well-known team I enter and I believe they will help me to get better as a player in the future. I will do my best to show great results in the upcoming tournaments and also want to thank mousesports and its sponsors GeIL, Razer, CardCoachess, Thortech, MEDION, Intel & Sansibar for giving me this opportunity."

You can find a brief interview with Protosser at the Team Razer Facebook page.

On the other hand, we're waving goodbye to Stefan "MorroW" Andersson, who has been a part of mousesports since StarCraft II Beta, as he joined the family in March 2010. Both parties agreed not to extend to contract, so MorroW becomes a Free Agent for now. Together with MorroW, we're looking back at his IEM gamescom championship, where he became the first major StarCraft II champion, aswell as his second place at Assembly Winter 2011 and his trip to Korea for GSL, not to mention the titles he has won with the SC2 squad in team tournaments. We would like to thank Stefan for the time in mousesports, all the events and matches he has played for the franchise during his contract period.

In his entire career for mousesports there has been only a few players who worked as hard and precise as MorroW - unfortunately with no real reward. We would like to wish him the best in his future career and hope he can catch up to his performances in the past, which he's definitely still capable of.

Goodbye, Mr. Andersson.

Statement Stefan "MorroW" Andersson: "I just want to thank the team for my stay for giving me a lot of opportunities to go to diffierent tournaments around the world as well as my trip to Korea. I've made some great friends during my stay in mousesports and I hope they still give good results regardless if I'm not on the team anymore. I wish them best of luck in the future!"


mousesports StarCraft II division 2012/2013:
Grzegorz "MaNa" Komincz (P)
Dennis "HasuObs" Schneider (P)
Han Sang "biGs" Cho (Z)
Jonne "Protosser" Sotala (Z)
Gabriel "Marine" Segat (T)


The sad truth is that u does not need 1000 thousand hours to be the bast (or actually really good) at SC2, You can perform as well as anyother guy with less pratice...

A really good exemple of this happening is Stephano...he trains like a 10th of what IdrA or other Korean guy AND he can still perform really well.

The ones that win something gets some luck to win, some good decisions(with can came with a pratice, but knowing when and how to attack does not need 1000 hours of pratice, only some hours), timing(same as good decision), new B.O. (witch does not require lots of hours of training but needs some), macro and micro....

SC2 micro and macro are not that hard to learn...so if i know how to use keyboard and mouse very quick and well i can be as good as morrow that lives up to train.

IdrA said it someday and i TOTTALLY agree: "This is a bullshit I play like 10 hours a day everyday i shouldn't be losing to the kinds of him".

SC2 Macro and Micro is not that decisive...what takes more of SC2 early game is B.O. (by far), followed by a timming, followed by some lucy(spoting a scv that's going to see your expo), followed by macro and micro.

In SC2 Lategame the order changes Decision making combined with Luck>>Macro>>Micro(well not that much if you are protoss facing terran)>>B.O.(tech switch)>>Lucky(catching anemy tanks unsieged)

As u can see, factors as Luck, B.O. and decision making takes hard place to win a SC2 game. So those itens does not requires thousand hours of training...that's why morrow does not succeed.

=/

Sad Truth of SC2
=/



Dude you can train 12 hours a day but if you lack talent and lack physical abilities(multitasking)(fast) you will never be one of the best. It have nothign todo with sc2 it happends everywhere in sports.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
EMoney
Profile Joined June 2012
United States6 Posts
June 27 2012 16:30 GMT
#156
On June 28 2012 01:23 ChriseC wrote:
mouz always seems to be a nice team, but compared to EG or Liquid they dont advertise or use their players in a other way than just giving them their shirt and let them use their tag, kinda sad cuz their roster was/is very strong


I think they could "push" their sponsorships harder to get more exposure through them, as that pushes Liquid and EG players into the spotlight a lot.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
June 27 2012 16:31 GMT
#157
millenium morow!
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
June 27 2012 16:31 GMT
#158
hey mousesports, I think it's time to bring TH000 to sc2
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 27 2012 16:32 GMT
#159
On June 28 2012 00:18 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 00:18 Whole wrote:
EG.Morrow


OH GAWD

If that happens, I might cry a little inside...
User was warned for too many mimes.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 16:32:54
June 27 2012 16:32 GMT
#160
I think Mouz should also add Krass to the lineup as that way they have more diversity and he would fit well with his profile.
With two big names being gone Mouz needs to take care though that the team doesn`t evolve into a talent-pool for bigger teams.
In the case of Morrow I`m skeptical though whether there is a team that will make him a financially viable offer. He is not really visible most of the time and currently the market is flooded with Koreans that provide better results while being cheaper. I hope he won`t face the same fate as e. g. Naama.
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