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Protosser joins Mouz, Morrow leaves - Page 22

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FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
June 30 2012 09:12 GMT
#421
LiquidMorroW
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
June 30 2012 09:16 GMT
#422
On June 28 2012 20:21 Blueblister wrote:
I dug up the most recent interview with Morrow I could find. Those predicting his retirement will most like have to wait for quite some time.



Morrow is one of the best value picks a foreign team can make atm. He always posts solid results but has recently come short of winning high profile tournaments which lowers his price tag, there's also very few players who can compete with his dedication and low maintenance needs. My guess is he wants a Korean practice environment with foreigner presence. Quantic, TL and EG are obvious possibilities of which Quantic seems the most natural. There's also Fnatic, they announced their most recent recruit, Luvsic, a few hours ago.

He also seems like the perfect training partner. If you watch his play closely he always has a ton of smart little things in his play.

He's not one of those copy and follow the meta game players, which is exactly what you need if you want to be ahead of the curve.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
June 30 2012 20:02 GMT
#423
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
June 30 2012 20:10 GMT
#424
On July 01 2012 05:02 Paladia wrote:
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.


It's not the same as playing two races. He still only plays 3 matchups. It's not like he has to practice for 6 matchups. Also, he has a ton of prior experience playing Terran. In the end all that matters is he feels more confident in his TvZ than his ZvZ.
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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 30 2012 20:13 GMT
#425
On July 01 2012 05:02 Paladia wrote:
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.


I don't think it's as big of a problem as you are making it out to be. Many high level players have been able to play random very well. I'm not claiming that it's not a disadvantage of sorts, but as others pointed out, he is still only playing 3 matchups and he believes his tvz is stronger than his zvz. Obviously, no pro has stuck with random and MorroW is the only race picker that I know of, but I wouldn't be so quick to blame stuff on that choice.
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
June 30 2012 22:03 GMT
#426
On July 01 2012 05:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:02 Paladia wrote:
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.


It's not the same as playing two races. He still only plays 3 matchups. It's not like he has to practice for 6 matchups. Also, he has a ton of prior experience playing Terran. In the end all that matters is he feels more confident in his TvZ than his ZvZ.

It isn't three match-ups when you ladder a lot, which is what he did in for example Korea. Also, for other people who play one race, every match-up help them in their mechanics for the other match-ups, but that isn't the case for Morrow.

Though it is pointless to argue about it. Just the fact that no player in the history of Brood War, Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 2 has been able to master two or more races (random) at the highest of level is enough to show how impractical it is. So unless you consider yourself way more talented than all people who have ever played RTS games, stick to one race.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Tomba
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway106 Posts
July 01 2012 02:08 GMT
#427
On June 28 2012 00:51 Talin wrote:
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On June 28 2012 00:47 StarVe wrote:
On June 28 2012 00:32 GreEny K wrote:
On June 28 2012 00:15 PhoenixVoid wrote:
What Morrow! He was one of the iconic Mouz players . Best of luck to him and congrats to Protosser.


Idk about that, I always thought of MaNa as their flagship player.


What the hell? If there's one iconic Mouz player, it's HasuObs. He's been on the team for like a decade.


From a Brood War standpoint it was definitely Morrow (and White-Ra).


And Strelok of course!
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#428
On July 01 2012 05:13 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:02 Paladia wrote:
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.


I don't think it's as big of a problem as you are making it out to be. Many high level players have been able to play random very well. I'm not claiming that it's not a disadvantage of sorts, but as others pointed out, he is still only playing 3 matchups and he believes his tvz is stronger than his zvz. Obviously, no pro has stuck with random and MorroW is the only race picker that I know of, but I wouldn't be so quick to blame stuff on that choice.

In the time when Terran is UP to Zerg, it's a problem lol.(not whining)
PsychoPriest
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 17:49:01
July 01 2012 17:48 GMT
#429
Morrow leave is actually a good news for mouz -.- he never was good enough to compete with top players (maybe in beta and at beginning of sc2, when he abused reapers). Now he was worst player in whole mouz, so why waste money on him. And plz, dont be funny with EG, Liquid, Quantic, he isnt good enough for this teams...
Only a zerg can beat another zerg
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
July 01 2012 17:52 GMT
#430
On July 02 2012 02:48 PsychoPriest wrote:
Morrow leave is actually a good news for mouz -.- he never was good enough to compete with top players (maybe in beta and at beginning of sc2, when he abused reapers). Now he was worst player in whole mouz, so why waste money on him. And plz, dont be funny with EG, Liquid, Quantic, he isnt good enough for this teams...


I'm bored of saying it all the time but:
Do you even follow sc2 scene ?
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
July 01 2012 17:55 GMT
#431
On July 02 2012 02:48 PsychoPriest wrote:
Morrow leave is actually a good news for mouz -.- he never was good enough to compete with top players (maybe in beta and at beginning of sc2, when he abused reapers). Now he was worst player in whole mouz, so why waste money on him. And plz, dont be funny with EG, Liquid, Quantic, he isnt good enough for this teams...

He cant join EG? He just raped Idras ass in NASL SS 2 months ago, beating him 4-0 and this was offline not online.
PsychoPriest
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
July 01 2012 18:09 GMT
#432
IdrA lol, plz
Only a zerg can beat another zerg
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
July 01 2012 20:58 GMT
#433
I'm pretty certain Morrow will join Quantic. They are looking for a Swedish zerg and has shown some interest in him previously.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Cipaku
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania24 Posts
July 02 2012 19:16 GMT
#434
I think he is going to dignitas because that's where the sjow is
GIRRGIRR
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden14 Posts
July 02 2012 21:32 GMT
#435
Im super excited to se what MorroW will join! And grats Protosser.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 23:22:02
July 02 2012 23:20 GMT
#436
On July 01 2012 07:03 Paladia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:02 Paladia wrote:
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.


It's not the same as playing two races. He still only plays 3 matchups. It's not like he has to practice for 6 matchups. Also, he has a ton of prior experience playing Terran. In the end all that matters is he feels more confident in his TvZ than his ZvZ.

It isn't three match-ups when you ladder a lot, which is what he did in for example Korea. Also, for other people who play one race, every match-up help them in their mechanics for the other match-ups, but that isn't the case for Morrow.

Though it is pointless to argue about it. Just the fact that no player in the history of Brood War, Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 2 has been able to master two or more races (random) at the highest of level is enough to show how impractical it is. So unless you consider yourself way more talented than all people who have ever played RTS games, stick to one race.

Grubby won tournaments with both Human and Orc but yea its unusual and his changes were because bad race matchups in WC3.

Seems sad for Morrow, not sure what to think good luck to him in the future.
Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
July 03 2012 15:19 GMT
#437
On July 02 2012 03:09 PsychoPriest wrote:
IdrA lol, plz

I realize it must be hard to remember all the bullshit you spout, but that is some fallacious reasoning you've got there.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
July 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#438
I really hope MorroW is picked up by some team out there - he's a great player and deserves it. Watching out for him in the future!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#439
On July 03 2012 08:20 Vimsey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 07:03 Paladia wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:02 Paladia wrote:
Morrow has a ton of talent, unfortunately he wastes it by going two races. As he has to practice each race twice as much as everyone else just to be on an even footing. Not to mention that he can't even ladder properly.


It's not the same as playing two races. He still only plays 3 matchups. It's not like he has to practice for 6 matchups. Also, he has a ton of prior experience playing Terran. In the end all that matters is he feels more confident in his TvZ than his ZvZ.

It isn't three match-ups when you ladder a lot, which is what he did in for example Korea. Also, for other people who play one race, every match-up help them in their mechanics for the other match-ups, but that isn't the case for Morrow.

Though it is pointless to argue about it. Just the fact that no player in the history of Brood War, Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 2 has been able to master two or more races (random) at the highest of level is enough to show how impractical it is. So unless you consider yourself way more talented than all people who have ever played RTS games, stick to one race.

Grubby won tournaments with both Human and Orc but yea its unusual and his changes were because bad race matchups in WC3.

Seems sad for Morrow, not sure what to think good luck to him in the future.


Grubby never won tournaments playing human, gooby pls ...


fnaticRCMorroW is my bet
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