Watch the TvZ battle report. The zerg was able to easily move his affect hosts away from the group as to not cause a massive chain reaction to obliterate all of others. That's a fairly good indicator that yes, the players can see them but I wasn't there so I didn't get to see it first hand.

But you lose that unit 100%.

Terran losing 25 gas, you can lose a lot more resources. It's a lot more dangerous, than banelings.

Question: What is the current attachment range of the mine? Some people say 5, some people say 6.

It's 5, similar to queen range.

Question: Does blinding cloud still prevent units from casting inside the cloud? If so, this spell will find some use in ZvP and we can probably see some micro war between casters in all of the vZ (viper infestor vs viper infestor seems very fun) match ups. Also what is the range of Abduct? Is it 9 or 7?

In early builds from blizzcon Blind Cloud prevented from using abilities. Also Abduct radius is same as fungal

Question: Do the locusts benefit from missile upgrade or melee upgrade? If it benefits from missile upgrade, it seems to work very well with the new speed hydra.

If they have some range (like 2 or 3), why they should benefit from melee?

Roth

Germany165 Posts

June 13 2012 08:32 GMT

#664

What about the new Blinding Cloud?
If I am wright it costs 125 energy and only effects biological units?! So it would be effective on Marines and Marauders and these can easily escape from it with Stim. So why use this ability?

Iyerbeth

England2410 Posts

June 13 2012 11:06 GMT

#665

Do we know if one unit can have multiple widow mines? Can I send a Ling on to the field to collect as many as possible?

Did anyone test picking up a unit in to a transport once a mine was attached?

Cruncher93

Germany28 Posts

June 13 2012 11:18 GMT

#666

On June 13 2012 17:32 Roth wrote:
What about the new Blinding Cloud?
If I am wright it costs 125 energy and only effects biological units?! So it would be effective on Marines and Marauders and these can easily escape from it with Stim. So why use this ability?

Someone who attended Anaheim couldn't use the Ghost's snipe - Blinding Cloud prevents Ghost, HT, Infestor, Viper from using their abilities.
Maybe it prevents Blink, Stim and the other stuff too.

Sackings

Canada457 Posts

June 13 2012 15:29 GMT

#667

Can the oracle cast Preordain on your own buildings (and thus provide detection for Toss without a robo)?

Decendos

Germany1338 Posts

June 13 2012 15:37 GMT

#668

On June 13 2012 20:18 Cruncher93 wrote:

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Someone who attended Anaheim couldn't use the Ghost's snipe - Blinding Cloud prevents Ghost, HT, Infestor, Viper from using their abilities.
Maybe it prevents Blink, Stim and the other stuff too.

if blinding cloud would prevent EVERYTHING bio (HT, ghosts, infestors) to be blinded, including spells, it would be SO awesome. zerg really needs an anti-spellcaster unit. if they do it they could buff snipe back to the past stats since zerg would have an answer to mass ghost play but 5-8 ghosts would still be attractive for T lategame.

Tuxedo

United States134 Posts

June 13 2012 15:50 GMT

#669

I tested.. the oracle gets 1 shot by the widow mine. This would effectivly make trying to use the oracle to harass terran impossible. I think a better balance would be made by making the mines a little easier to avoid, and removing the gas cost of the mine.

Recognizable

Netherlands1552 Posts

June 13 2012 15:51 GMT

#670

Could anyone fill me in on how the Widow Mine works exactly?

Treehead

999 Posts

June 13 2012 15:55 GMT

#671

On June 14 2012 00:29 Sackings wrote:
Can the oracle cast Preordain on your own buildings (and thus provide detection for Toss without a robo)?

That would be awesome, but.... the description of the ability does say "an enemy building". So I'd assume no.

Cereb

Denmark3388 Posts

June 13 2012 15:56 GMT

#672

On June 09 2012 17:59 graNite wrote:
Maybe the guy with the HOTS custom map should implement this, so we can play the new units before the start of the beta

THIS! I want this sooo badly ! ;D

HotS just looks soo amazing already!

Cruncher93

Germany28 Posts

June 13 2012 16:00 GMT

#673

On June 14 2012 00:55 Treehead wrote:

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That would be awesome, but.... the description of the ability does say "an enemy building". So I'd assume no.

Cast it on an enemy building: You gain vision.
Cast it on a friendly building: You gain detection.
Stargate openers vs Terran, here they come

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

June 13 2012 16:12 GMT

#674

I like the Widow Mine personally, 10 seconds is a lot of time to find the unit and get him away from the rest of the deathball. I'm actually thinking what if you just shoot the unit with the mine on it, that gets rid of the mine too, right?

Hang on... Locusts have 2 range, are they affected by guardian shield? If so I'm thinking PvZ is going to reflect a lot more of Brood War gameplay but with Sentries instead of HTs.

PvP is going to be more annoying for me than it already is.

jdsowa

405 Posts

June 13 2012 16:12 GMT

#675

Would've liked to see a greater variety of upgrade options for T1 and T2 units (along the lines of adrenal glands). In ZvP or ZvT, if my opponent is on 3 bases, I pretty much have to have 2 out of these 3: ultra/broodlord/infestor. Roaches/lings/hydras melt away to mech and P deathball. Banes are a joke because you throw away gas to kill light T1 mineral units. Bad exchange. Hydra speed is a start, but it still doesn't make the unit viable outside of maybe light harassment or as a hypothetical support unit in a hypothetical choke. Not to mention they are too gas heavy. Once you can afford that gas, you probably ought to be on your way to T3 instead. What a shame.

Shiori

3815 Posts

June 13 2012 16:14 GMT

#676

On June 14 2012 01:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I like the Widow Mine personally, 10 seconds is a lot of time to find the unit and get him away from the rest of the deathball. I'm actually thinking what if you just shoot the unit with the mine on it, that gets rid of the mine too, right?

Hang on... Locusts have 2 range, are they affected by guardian shield? If so I'm thinking PvZ is going to reflect a lot more of Brood War gameplay but with Sentries instead of HTs.

PvP is going to be more annoying for me than it already is.

Wouldn't count on it. The counter to Swarm Hosts is going to be Colossi, because they're the only reliable way we have of cleaning up things like Broodlings (and lets be honest: locusts are a variation on that theme).

SHOOG

United States1639 Posts

June 13 2012 16:24 GMT

#677

More non-cost efficient protoss units.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

June 13 2012 16:25 GMT

#678

On June 14 2012 01:14 Shiori wrote:

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Zealots could still work to some extent, they can tank that 16 damage like a champ, so you'd need vipers or something to get to the colossi. Same way they're used to tank roaches.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

June 13 2012 16:27 GMT

#679

On June 14 2012 01:24 SHOOG wrote:
More non-cost efficient protoss units.

Protoss isn't meant to be cost efficient. It's meant to be supply efficient. And with the core it's like free spellcasters on the field. So supply efficiency w/ Oracle and Core is maintained.

NadaSound

United States227 Posts

June 13 2012 16:56 GMT

#680

I was wondering about how people feel about the range of abduct. I believe that a spell that directly takes a unit out of a players control should be a very risky maneuver. I hate seeing colossus and tanks being thrown half way around the screen. I think the pull distance should be a bit shorter.

Also, I was explaining the whole collapsible rock tower thing to a friend and he asked if it would do damage to units who were on the ramp when the rocks were knocked down. I had no answer, but we talked about how it could work and it seems like it would be an awesome addition to include to make maps more interactive. Though the chances of anyone falling for the trap would be slim, it would still be an awesome treat for those who could pull it off.