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Strabismus
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
June 16 2012 15:33 GMT
#161
I agree, the general music taste of the average SC2 streamer is horrendous. I'd prefer they just do commentary.


It's always nice when they play something you like though, even better when they play something you like and you've never heard it before. Learning Sc2 and discovering new music!
Terran Player ||| ID: CoreTalent ||| Day[9] and Tastosis for life <3 UK Players Represent!
mayneeahk
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada279 Posts
June 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#162
I dream of a day where twitch.tv has seperate entities for the music and the other sound on stream. That way I can watch say Losira with game sound but without his terrible terrible music.

I think its do-able in some way, shape, or form.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#163
On June 16 2012 23:07 JKM wrote:
I'd like to ask, am I the only one who thinks that dubstep "music" is played too much on SC2 streams (daily streams, player streams, etc). I am not fond of dubstep, but I could just be the odd out of the bunch in regard of music taste (I listen to many genres I just dislike that dubstep sounds like a tin-barrel rolling down stairs).


Yep, I usually mute the sound and listen to my own music. I don't like dubstep that much ;/
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
June 16 2012 17:23 GMT
#164
Bah, just played my 19th game of the season and still no PvT...

10 PvZ and 9 PvP.

Oh terrans, where art thou?
hatespam
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania161 Posts
June 16 2012 19:40 GMT
#165
IEM IPL MLG NASL and even ROG have portals on the TL site, but not DreamHack. seriously? why is that?
ask, and you shall have asked
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:50:06
June 16 2012 19:49 GMT
#166
On June 17 2012 04:40 hatespam wrote:
IEM IPL MLG NASL and even ROG have portals on the TL site, but not DreamHack. seriously? why is that?


They used to have, I don't know if they're just lazy and haven't updated or so o_O
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
aust77
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada34 Posts
June 16 2012 21:19 GMT
#167
I've been wanting to watch either the GIGABYTE ESPORTS LAN Invitational (not my intentional use of caps, I'm just following Liquipedia) or Dreamhack. In my six months of watching LANs I've yet to see either of these prodigious events. Any recommendations?
aust77sc, casual commentator
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 16 2012 21:23 GMT
#168
Anyone know where I can find TSL vs FXO IPL replays, if they're out there?
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
FreedomMurder
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada200 Posts
June 16 2012 21:37 GMT
#169
I know this is going to sounds a bit crazy, but hear me out.

Make protoss warp ins at pylons cost energy on the nexus, you can warp in units at a nexus cost free. What would this do you might ask....

1. Fix PvP allowing the defender to have an advantage by being able to chronoboost gateways where the aggressive player cannot.

2. No more forcefields. I believe FF was added to the game because pvp was broken - no defenders advantage. If there is no FF protoss gateway units could actually be good units before upgrades (Stalkers/Zealots) - I think this would help balance PvT making protoss and terran more equal in the early game, and changing the power of warp in pylons dramatically. FF has always been the bane of zerg. No FF we could see a lot more variety of strategy in the matchup because units like banelings, zerglings become more powerful. Also lowers the effectiveness of units like collosus.

3. Great synergy with new unit mothership core (recharge energy on nexus)

- I'm a protoss player so don't tell me this is a balance whine, just tired of people trying to take legitimate wins away from me because i play with the "broken race" .
/rant

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HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 16 2012 22:23 GMT
#170
On June 17 2012 04:40 hatespam wrote:
IEM IPL MLG NASL and even ROG have portals on the TL site, but not DreamHack. seriously? why is that?

Thaaaaank you for reminding me that DreamHack is on. Holy shit it's been on for 10 hours I suck. >_>
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
June 16 2012 22:46 GMT
#171
On June 17 2012 06:37 FreedomMurder wrote:
I know this is going to sounds a bit crazy, but hear me out.

Make protoss warp ins at pylons cost energy on the nexus, you can warp in units at a nexus cost free. What would this do you might ask....

1. Fix PvP allowing the defender to have an advantage by being able to chronoboost gateways where the aggressive player cannot.

2. No more forcefields. I believe FF was added to the game because pvp was broken - no defenders advantage. If there is no FF protoss gateway units could actually be good units before upgrades (Stalkers/Zealots) - I think this would help balance PvT making protoss and terran more equal in the early game, and changing the power of warp in pylons dramatically. FF has always been the bane of zerg. No FF we could see a lot more variety of strategy in the matchup because units like banelings, zerglings become more powerful. Also lowers the effectiveness of units like collosus.

3. Great synergy with new unit mothership core (recharge energy on nexus)

- I'm a protoss player so don't tell me this is a balance whine, just tired of people trying to take legitimate wins away from me because i play with the "broken race" .
/rant



I'm sorry, but this is not possible. A protoss cannot survive 7 minutes without forcefields, gate units sucks against stimmed MM and ling roach or just mass ling allin wihout FF and guardian shield.. if you want to remove the ff, give a new gate unit to protoss and maybe we can discuss it.

I really hope that blizzard wants to remove those stupid ability like FF or stupid units like colossi/roaches/marauders.. but this won't happens.
FreedomMurder
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada200 Posts
June 16 2012 22:52 GMT
#172
On June 17 2012 07:46 AngryPenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:37 FreedomMurder wrote:
I know this is going to sounds a bit crazy, but hear me out.

Make protoss warp ins at pylons cost energy on the nexus, you can warp in units at a nexus cost free. What would this do you might ask....

1. Fix PvP allowing the defender to have an advantage by being able to chronoboost gateways where the aggressive player cannot.

2. No more forcefields. I believe FF was added to the game because pvp was broken - no defenders advantage. If there is no FF protoss gateway units could actually be good units before upgrades (Stalkers/Zealots) - I think this would help balance PvT making protoss and terran more equal in the early game, and changing the power of warp in pylons dramatically. FF has always been the bane of zerg. No FF we could see a lot more variety of strategy in the matchup because units like banelings, zerglings become more powerful. Also lowers the effectiveness of units like collosus.

3. Great synergy with new unit mothership core (recharge energy on nexus)

- I'm a protoss player so don't tell me this is a balance whine, just tired of people trying to take legitimate wins away from me because i play with the "broken race" .
/rant



I'm sorry, but this is not possible. A protoss cannot survive 7 minutes without forcefields, gate units sucks against stimmed MM and ling roach or just mass ling allin wihout FF and guardian shield.. if you want to remove the ff, give a new gate unit to protoss and maybe we can discuss it.

I really hope that blizzard wants to remove those stupid ability like FF or stupid units like colossi/roaches/marauders.. but this won't happens.



I said buff gateway units if you read #2 thoroughly. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. If PvP is balanced, then no FF --> buff protoss gateway units so they can stand up against ling roach, or MM.
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
June 16 2012 22:56 GMT
#173
Alright, I've been out of the scene for ages and I'm just slowly getting back into it now. I have to know, who are considered the best players in the world right now?

When I left, MMA/Mvp were the best terrans, DongRaeGu was the best zerg, and the best protoss was undecided, but Oz was a contender. I know that pretty soon after I left, MKP shot right up, and I know Squirtle and DongRaeGu have done very well for themselves as well.

So how do things stand right now? Feels so weird not being sure who the best players are. =P
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
permelito
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden19 Posts
June 16 2012 23:25 GMT
#174
On June 17 2012 07:56 Sarang wrote:
Alright, I've been out of the scene for ages and I'm just slowly getting back into it now. I have to know, who are considered the best players in the world right now?

When I left, MMA/Mvp were the best terrans, DongRaeGu was the best zerg, and the best protoss was undecided, but Oz was a contender. I know that pretty soon after I left, MKP shot right up, and I know Squirtle and DongRaeGu have done very well for themselves as well.

So how do things stand right now? Feels so weird not being sure who the best players are. =P


Marineking and DongRaeGu are the best terran and zerg players right now if you ask me, they always place high in every tournament. DRG is probably the best of all right now.

Protoss is harder to pick one, although Squirtle is a good candidate. But I have a feeling he has had his peak. Genius apparently played well in GSL just recently, but he's teamless now, that drags him down... Naniwa of course is really, really good, but not in PvZ... Haven't seen Oz that much, he is probably up there still, he is in code S after all.

You can pretty much watch the GSL standings this far, and draw conslusions from that
permelito
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden19 Posts
June 16 2012 23:37 GMT
#175
On June 16 2012 07:16 ThePlayer33 wrote:
name your top 10 foreigners here


Stephano, Naniwa, Sase, Socke, Thorzain, Nerchio

The ones worth mentioning! ATM ^^
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 16 2012 23:51 GMT
#176
On June 17 2012 07:56 Sarang wrote:
Alright, I've been out of the scene for ages and I'm just slowly getting back into it now. I have to know, who are considered the best players in the world right now?

When I left, MMA/Mvp were the best terrans, DongRaeGu was the best zerg, and the best protoss was undecided, but Oz was a contender. I know that pretty soon after I left, MKP shot right up, and I know Squirtle and DongRaeGu have done very well for themselves as well.

So how do things stand right now? Feels so weird not being sure who the best players are. =P


Everytime he plays MKP looks amazing, but it was MVP who won the last GSL, against Squirtle. DRG is still probably the best Zerg, he had a pretty poor GSL last season but at MLG he looked amazing. Squirtle may be the best Toss but it's still a toss up (wahey) really between him, Parting, Genius, MC and maybe even Creator, in my opinion.

In terms of foreigners, Stephano and Naniwa are the two who actually make stuff happen. Recently Sase and Socke have been turning heads, Vibe won the US nationals, and Thorzain is in the GSL.

Surprising runs... Alicia got 2nd at MLG, and no one thought Alicia was a particularly remarkable Protoss. Sase got 4th, straight from the open bracket. Keen's been playing well.

People who were hyped up a lot but aren't really delivering at the moment... Nestea and MMA are the big Koreans, there have been like no remarkable US players in any tournament since forever. Huk's results haven't been great lately either (though I consider him a favourite to win DreamHack).

That's pretty much it right now.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
June 16 2012 23:54 GMT
#177
I've been out of the loop for the past several months. Does anyone have an idea when the HOTS beta is coming?
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
June 17 2012 00:08 GMT
#178
+ Show Spoiler [permelito] +
On June 17 2012 08:25 permelito wrote:
Marineking and DongRaeGu are the best terran and zerg players right now if you ask me, they always place high in every tournament. DRG is probably the best of all right now.

Protoss is harder to pick one, although Squirtle is a good candidate. But I have a feeling he has had his peak. Genius apparently played well in GSL just recently, but he's teamless now, that drags him down... Naniwa of course is really, really good, but not in PvZ... Haven't seen Oz that much, he is probably up there still, he is in code S after all.

You can pretty much watch the GSL standings this far, and draw conslusions from that


+ Show Spoiler [Larkin] +
On June 17 2012 08:51 Larkin wrote:
Everytime he plays MKP looks amazing, but it was MVP who won the last GSL, against Squirtle. DRG is still probably the best Zerg, he had a pretty poor GSL last season but at MLG he looked amazing. Squirtle may be the best Toss but it's still a toss up (wahey) really between him, Parting, Genius, MC and maybe even Creator, in my opinion.

In terms of foreigners, Stephano and Naniwa are the two who actually make stuff happen. Recently Sase and Socke have been turning heads, Vibe won the US nationals, and Thorzain is in the GSL.

Surprising runs... Alicia got 2nd at MLG, and no one thought Alicia was a particularly remarkable Protoss. Sase got 4th, straight from the open bracket. Keen's been playing well.

People who were hyped up a lot but aren't really delivering at the moment... Nestea and MMA are the big Koreans, there have been like no remarkable US players in any tournament since forever. Huk's results haven't been great lately either (though I consider him a favourite to win DreamHack).

That's pretty much it right now.


Thanks very much guys! I actually forgot about Parting and Creator when I made my original post. Glad that DRG is still the best Zerg too. =)

Thanks again for the surprisingly detailed answers.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 00:15:56
June 17 2012 00:15 GMT
#179
Hi guys!

I've been playing terran for the past month or so. Have been a spectator since the beta and just recently got a copy. I thought terran was a cool race and decided to use it. I have realized that I think zerg would fit me better. I am a macro player and don't do much aggression, but like big timing pushes that just over power my opponent. Do you think I should switch over to zerg?

Edit: I was gold rank 50 before new season
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
June 17 2012 00:26 GMT
#180
On June 17 2012 07:56 Sarang wrote:
Alright, I've been out of the scene for ages and I'm just slowly getting back into it now. I have to know, who are considered the best players in the world right now?

When I left, MMA/Mvp were the best terrans, DongRaeGu was the best zerg, and the best protoss was undecided, but Oz was a contender. I know that pretty soon after I left, MKP shot right up, and I know Squirtle and DongRaeGu have done very well for themselves as well.

So how do things stand right now? Feels so weird not being sure who the best players are. =P
Parting is really good right now IMO. He might not have placed as high as Oz or Squirtle in recent events, but he's great.
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