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On May 31 2012 18:03 nufcrulz wrote:
i feel like gom needs to start giving out more seeds to foreigners.. i completely stopped watching the previous season after naniwa got knocked out. Foreigners = more viewers
i completely stopped watching after the last zerg got knocked out. Zergs = more viewers
(of course i watched part of the finals as well, but other than that no GSL code S for me last season)
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i'm sorry but NightEnd in EU is like random code b korean in GSTL: you may have heard of him and seen him play here and there, but doesn't have anything to justify a seed by gomtv.
ThorZain already did well in GSL, and Violet is just....... i think both of those guys really are the most deserving.
in regards to foreigners getting free tickets, to me GSL starts losing interest when there are no foreigners, so even though i sometimes grumble "ah crap why do they get these seeds and get roflstomped", deep down i know i actually get way more excited to see foreigners vs koreans in GSL than just plain best player in the world GSL that goes on when no foreigners attend/fail early
in example, i made time to watch Morrow and Idra even though that was super busy month for me, and had to miss most of rest of GSL that was going on in those days...
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ouch
thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups
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Code S really is stacked these days holy eff
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I hope those groups don't stay final, despite the great lineup of players, these combinations within the groups don't look very exciting for the ro32. Only one that looks like a possible must-see is Nestea vs Naniwa...and that's the last group ><
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On May 31 2012 19:31 snailz wrote:
i'm sorry but NightEnd in EU is like random code b korean in GSTL: you may have heard of him and seen him play here and there, but doesn't have anything to justify a seed by gomtv.
ThorZain already did well in GSL, and Violet is just....... i think both of those guys really are the most deserving.
in regards to foreigners getting free tickets, to me GSL starts losing interest when there are no foreigners, so even though i sometimes grumble "ah crap why do they get these seeds and get roflstomped", deep down i know i actually get way more excited to see foreigners vs koreans in GSL than just plain best player in the world GSL that goes on when no foreigners attend/fail early
in example, i made time to watch Morrow and Idra even though that was super busy month for me, and had to miss most of rest of GSL that was going on in those days...
Giving out Code S seeds to the foreigners is like feeding fish to cats.(exception is Naniwa though)
Other than that, the other foreigners(Idra,Huk,Sen) all crashed out from Code S.
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if those groups are correct, i am a sad panda
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Yay code S will have an American! Go Violet! 
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On May 31 2012 16:52 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 15:39 Boblhead wrote:
stop giving foreigners seeds, even violet is iffy for me. Foreigners like all others just get knocked out first round, for the few who get mirror match ups like huk/naniwa in which they are good at then its different. But srsly mr chae needs to stop giving them seeds. Violet is korean not a foreigner, and Thorzain deserves his seed, he's top3 foreigners. Foreigners attract non-korean audience which theyw ant so their viewer numbers increase, without foreigners it would probably dip quite a bit.
Violet lives in America, how can he be considered korean? Just like Naniwa and Huk can't really be seen as foreigners. They live in Korea, train in Korea, focus heavily on the GSL - they don't represent the foreign scene. Their success shows even more how the korean-model is far superior to how the foreign scene approaches SC2.
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On May 31 2012 21:14 Irave wrote:Yay code S will have an American! Go Violet!
Hahahahahahahhaahaha, sorry.
Good luck thorzain !.
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On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch
thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups
Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.
Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran.
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On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch
thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group. Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran.
Oh that foreigner bias...
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TLO gets the missing Code S seed after his great Qualifier performance and due to his huge fanbase, heard it here first!
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On May 31 2012 15:38 Naded wrote:
Naniwa and NesTea in same group? That'd be epic!
yeah should be epic
on a side note I wish they gave foreigners free code A seeds and not code S seeds.
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On May 31 2012 21:26 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch
thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group. Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran. Oh that foreigner bias...
I think that's a pretty fair bet to be 100% honest. Nestea isn't the zerg he was and Creator and TheSTC are definitely not the top of the top. Naniwa's groups last season were harder. I don't think it's unfair to call him the favourite in the group.
EDIT: And, thinking about it...
On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.
That foreigner bias?
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On May 31 2012 21:29 ChaosArcher wrote:
TLO gets the missing Code S seed after his great Qualifier performance and due to his huge fanbase, heard it here first!
He wouldn't accept it.
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aha Naniwa and Nestea in the same group ! I hope they will have to play a BO3 :D
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On May 31 2012 18:03 nufcrulz wrote:
i feel like gom needs to start giving out more seeds to foreigners.. i completely stopped watching the previous season after naniwa got knocked out. Foreigners = more viewers
Yeah, I have to disagree. I feel like so far, that foreigner performance has just dicked up the competition. I'd be fine with GOM handing out seeds if the foreign players were consistently doing well and it was evident that with the right push they could compete but in recent memory only Naniwa has had a decent run through Code S. I suppose that's enough to extend a hand further to Thorzain but if this doesn't work out then I don't want to see GOM up the foreigner seeds as I feel that ruins the image of Code S being the absolute cream of the crop, I want Code S at the very least to remain a league that you have to break into on the merit of your play, not your place of birth.
I'm absolutely fine with GOM loading out Code A and Up/Down seeds as that still requires players to fight for a spot in what is the most prestigious league in the world. However, even here I don't think they should be handing out repeat spots to players who consistently fail to perform in the league.
A prime example here is Huk(who I have absolutely nothing against), who was knocked out of Code A, invited back, knocked out in the first round again, and then in that very same season he was invited to the Up/Downs. He was literally brought back into the same season of the tournament and bumped up a round despite losing.
I don't want to see this kind of stuff happen because it just shits on the competition. I understand it's difficult to go to compete in Korea, and that's why I'm fine with non-Code S seeds and maybe even the occasional single Code S seed, but what happened with Huk was really ridiculous and he should be expected to qualify normally at this point.
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On May 31 2012 21:32 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 21:26 ES.Genie wrote:On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch
thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group. Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran. Oh that foreigner bias... I think that's a pretty fair bet to be 100% honest. Nestea isn't the zerg he was and Creator and TheSTC are definitely not the top of the top. Naniwa's groups last season were harder. I don't think it's unfair to call him the favourite in the group. EDIT: And, thinking about it... Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group. That foreigner bias?
Creator is excellent, I wouldn't be surprised to see him stomp that group.
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