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Official statement by Snowbird: The brackets that were up for like 1min were not correct.
There will be adjustments because of schedule conflicts of some players (MLG, Dreamhack).
We will most likely post a final version of the brackets tomorrow.
Cirqueenflex
Profile Joined October 2010
499 Posts
May 31 2012 10:29 GMT
#121
On May 31 2012 18:03 nufcrulz wrote:
i feel like gom needs to start giving out more seeds to foreigners.. i completely stopped watching the previous season after naniwa got knocked out. Foreigners = more viewers


i completely stopped watching after the last zerg got knocked out. Zergs = more viewers
(of course i watched part of the finals as well, but other than that no GSL code S for me last season)
Give a man a fire, you keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 10:43:12
May 31 2012 10:31 GMT
#122
i'm sorry but NightEnd in EU is like random code b korean in GSTL: you may have heard of him and seen him play here and there, but doesn't have anything to justify a seed by gomtv.

ThorZain already did well in GSL, and Violet is just....... i think both of those guys really are the most deserving.


in regards to foreigners getting free tickets, to me GSL starts losing interest when there are no foreigners, so even though i sometimes grumble "ah crap why do they get these seeds and get roflstomped", deep down i know i actually get way more excited to see foreigners vs koreans in GSL than just plain best player in the world GSL that goes on when no foreigners attend/fail early

in example, i made time to watch Morrow and Idra even though that was super busy month for me, and had to miss most of rest of GSL that was going on in those days...
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Gecko4lif
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States42 Posts
May 31 2012 10:32 GMT
#123
ouch

thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 31 2012 10:39 GMT
#124
Code S really is stacked these days holy eff
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 31 2012 12:06 GMT
#125
I hope those groups don't stay final, despite the great lineup of players, these combinations within the groups don't look very exciting for the ro32. Only one that looks like a possible must-see is Nestea vs Naniwa...and that's the last group ><
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 31 2012 12:10 GMT
#126
On May 31 2012 19:31 snailz wrote:
i'm sorry but NightEnd in EU is like random code b korean in GSTL: you may have heard of him and seen him play here and there, but doesn't have anything to justify a seed by gomtv.

ThorZain already did well in GSL, and Violet is just....... i think both of those guys really are the most deserving.


in regards to foreigners getting free tickets, to me GSL starts losing interest when there are no foreigners, so even though i sometimes grumble "ah crap why do they get these seeds and get roflstomped", deep down i know i actually get way more excited to see foreigners vs koreans in GSL than just plain best player in the world GSL that goes on when no foreigners attend/fail early

in example, i made time to watch Morrow and Idra even though that was super busy month for me, and had to miss most of rest of GSL that was going on in those days...


Giving out Code S seeds to the foreigners is like feeding fish to cats.(exception is Naniwa though)
Other than that, the other foreigners(Idra,Huk,Sen) all crashed out from Code S.
Play your best
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
May 31 2012 12:11 GMT
#127
if those groups are correct, i am a sad panda
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 31 2012 12:14 GMT
#128
Yay code S will have an American! Go Violet!
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
May 31 2012 12:17 GMT
#129
On May 31 2012 16:52 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 15:39 Boblhead wrote:
stop giving foreigners seeds, even violet is iffy for me. Foreigners like all others just get knocked out first round, for the few who get mirror match ups like huk/naniwa in which they are good at then its different. But srsly mr chae needs to stop giving them seeds.



Violet is korean not a foreigner, and Thorzain deserves his seed, he's top3 foreigners. Foreigners attract non-korean audience which theyw ant so their viewer numbers increase, without foreigners it would probably dip quite a bit.

Violet lives in America, how can he be considered korean? Just like Naniwa and Huk can't really be seen as foreigners. They live in Korea, train in Korea, focus heavily on the GSL - they don't represent the foreign scene. Their success shows even more how the korean-model is far superior to how the foreign scene approaches SC2.
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arChieSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
Spain162 Posts
May 31 2012 12:24 GMT
#130
On May 31 2012 21:14 Irave wrote:
Yay code S will have an American! Go Violet!

Hahahahahahahhaahaha, sorry.
Good luck thorzain !.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
May 31 2012 12:24 GMT
#131
On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch

thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups


Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.

Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
May 31 2012 12:26 GMT
#132
On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch

thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups


Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.

Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran.

Oh that foreigner bias...
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#133
Hope to see Violet :D
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
May 31 2012 12:29 GMT
#134
TLO gets the missing Code S seed after his great Qualifier performance and due to his huge fanbase, heard it here first!
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
May 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#135
On May 31 2012 15:38 Naded wrote:
Naniwa and NesTea in same group? That'd be epic!



yeah should be epic


on a side note I wish they gave foreigners free code A seeds and not code S seeds.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:35:08
May 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#136
On May 31 2012 21:26 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch

thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups


Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.

Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran.

Oh that foreigner bias...


I think that's a pretty fair bet to be 100% honest. Nestea isn't the zerg he was and Creator and TheSTC are definitely not the top of the top. Naniwa's groups last season were harder. I don't think it's unfair to call him the favourite in the group.

EDIT: And, thinking about it...

On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.


That foreigner bias?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 31 2012 12:39 GMT
#137
On May 31 2012 21:29 ChaosArcher wrote:
TLO gets the missing Code S seed after his great Qualifier performance and due to his huge fanbase, heard it here first!

He wouldn't accept it.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
May 31 2012 12:41 GMT
#138
aha Naniwa and Nestea in the same group ! I hope they will have to play a BO3 :D
twitter@RickyMarou
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 31 2012 12:58 GMT
#139
On May 31 2012 18:03 nufcrulz wrote:
i feel like gom needs to start giving out more seeds to foreigners.. i completely stopped watching the previous season after naniwa got knocked out. Foreigners = more viewers


Yeah, I have to disagree. I feel like so far, that foreigner performance has just dicked up the competition. I'd be fine with GOM handing out seeds if the foreign players were consistently doing well and it was evident that with the right push they could compete but in recent memory only Naniwa has had a decent run through Code S. I suppose that's enough to extend a hand further to Thorzain but if this doesn't work out then I don't want to see GOM up the foreigner seeds as I feel that ruins the image of Code S being the absolute cream of the crop, I want Code S at the very least to remain a league that you have to break into on the merit of your play, not your place of birth.

I'm absolutely fine with GOM loading out Code A and Up/Down seeds as that still requires players to fight for a spot in what is the most prestigious league in the world. However, even here I don't think they should be handing out repeat spots to players who consistently fail to perform in the league.

A prime example here is Huk(who I have absolutely nothing against), who was knocked out of Code A, invited back, knocked out in the first round again, and then in that very same season he was invited to the Up/Downs. He was literally brought back into the same season of the tournament and bumped up a round despite losing.

I don't want to see this kind of stuff happen because it just shits on the competition. I understand it's difficult to go to compete in Korea, and that's why I'm fine with non-Code S seeds and maybe even the occasional single Code S seed, but what happened with Huk was really ridiculous and he should be expected to qualify normally at this point.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 31 2012 13:01 GMT
#140
On May 31 2012 21:32 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:26 ES.Genie wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:32 Gecko4lif wrote:
ouch

thorzain and naniwa have some rough groups


Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.

Naniwa's got his though. Creator is good but he's still an up and comer and Nani has beaten better Code S protoss frequently. Naniwa has Nestea's number and although it could go either way in that match I'm still betting on Nani. And Naniwa's PvT is good enough to take out any (sorry STC) second tier korean terran.

Oh that foreigner bias...


I think that's a pretty fair bet to be 100% honest. Nestea isn't the zerg he was and Creator and TheSTC are definitely not the top of the top. Naniwa's groups last season were harder. I don't think it's unfair to call him the favourite in the group.

EDIT: And, thinking about it...

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:24 The KY wrote:
Thorzain is gonna get destroyed in that group.


That foreigner bias?


Creator is excellent, I wouldn't be surprised to see him stomp that group.
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