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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
May 14 2015 05:22 GMT
#9581
On May 14 2015 05:56 [Ever]Water wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 05:46 duckk wrote:
On May 14 2015 01:52 [Ever]Water wrote:
Hello,

I want to defend myself. This may be long and in rant-form and may be tl;dr for you guys.

Low APM. I receive a lot of post-game messages saying something along the lines of, "70 apm, you're obviously a hacker!" I believe most of these accusations are because of my low apm. I believe that if my APM is high, then I'd probably get less accusations because players would presume that it was simple luck instead of hacks.

The reason I have low APM is because I do not spam. I have played StarCraft since around 2002, so after over a decade of StarCraft, I have what I believe to be carpal tunnel syndrome. Therefore, I try to preserve my wrists as much as I can (so I can play more StarCraft for the many years to come). This means that my APM early game is generally sub-fifty. When I micro, or during emergency situations, my APM does spike to 200+. However, I do my best to minimize my clicks.

Therefore, the reason I have low APM is not because I am staring at the keyboard, figuring how to hotkey or move my units, it's a deliberate and conscious decision to preserve my wrists.

Experience and Skill When I started playing Beta (hacks conclusively did not exist in beta), I was one of the top gamers in the NA server. I hit #1 several times and my MMR was high enough to regularly play pros. For example, here's one with idra:
. In fact, if I wasn't so caught up with my 12+ hour work schedule, I may have considered training to go pro.

After over a decade of StarCraft, one does get familiar with mindgames and metagaming. I do not monotonously do build orders, throw my units at the enemy, and move on from there. I do try to predict what the enemy will go after he or she scouts my units. Furthermore, scouting is often done by them scouting. For example, when I see an overseer, I know there is a lair tech. If he makes a reaper, I know that he likely went fast expo or will transition to widow mines.

I factor in their previous behavior as well. For example, if I never saw a player do cheese, I may not scout for proxies (or be less thorough when I do). If the player almost always does cheese, I will scrupulously check for proxies and scout early.

Weird and Unorthodox I took a year-and-a-half break and recently started playing HOTS in January. Part of the reason I quit was because I was upset at the balancing (pheonix before pheonix buff/upgrades vs mutas; before infestors were nerfed; reapers before MSC's/nerf; etc).

When I started playing again in January. I lost all of my previous contacts and was completely lost in HotS buildorders and metagaming. Furthermore, I was really busy studying and was quite burnt out so I didn't have the time or diligence to carefully study build orders and learn everything the way I used to. I simply gamed and improvised. Learned some basics from streams, but generally did my own thing.

PvZ, I almost always do a 10 gate opening to deny early hatch with a follow up cannon rush. Zerg often accuse me of hacking because the 10 gate stops both an early pool and an early hatch. However, I do this consistently 95% of my games.

Furthermore, my scouting is not as refined as it should be. Pros tend to time their sentries and time their hallucinations so they can catch timing rushes. I simply am not there yet because I prefer to use the 100 gas for earlier tech. I think this is another reason why people think I hack. I scout with conventional SC2 vanilla tactics (because technically I played HoTs for only about 4 months or so). Therefore, I use the probe and the observer to do most of my scouting, drawing the rest from inferences as we had to back in SC2 vanilla days, before the MSC and free hallucinations.

Conclusion
Sorry for such a long read. Let me summarize...
I am nowhere near where I was back in SC2 vanilla. My tactics are a product of an experienced SC2 vanilla player trying to transition into HotS. I believe this went rather well, considering how I did hit GM last season. Because my tactics are unorthodox, or my apm is low, players often do have a tendency to assume I hack.

As all players, I get lucky sometimes, but I also do get unlucky oftentimes too. What you guys do not see from the submitted replays are the times when I get caught offguard with a surprise 11/11 rax build, or a surprise DT rush when I went 4 gate stalkers, or the time I sent my entire army to attack when he had a dropships filled with his entire army right outside my line of sight. I was pretty lucky with my oracle timing. If I knew that he was making a pheonix, I would have retreated the oracle safely after shield regeneration and used it for another day (revelation, or even defensively vs ground units).

So in conclusion, people tend to accuse hack only when it goes against their favor. I ask that you do not accuse when I get lucky a few times, or because of my APM, or because of my unorthodox tactics. Do a comprehensive analysis, looking at various replays, before making your judgement.


After receiving 10-15 replays of this guy and then sniping him a few games to test a few things I can 100% confirm he hacks. If anyone wants a long version feel free to pm me.


Yeah, I'd like to see your so-called proof. I was streaming all of our games btw.


http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1879

Here's my replay pack, let me know if you need more.


What is your stream link for the vod, there is one thing in particular i want to see.

Also why did you pick and choose those replays? It would be better if you posted replays in succession. I wouldn't care, but the games you provided are not good ways to gauge anything so its obvious you did not pick out good games or something like that.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
May 14 2015 08:20 GMT
#9582
On May 14 2015 14:22 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 05:56 [Ever]Water wrote:
On May 14 2015 05:46 duckk wrote:
On May 14 2015 01:52 [Ever]Water wrote:
Hello,

I want to defend myself. This may be long and in rant-form and may be tl;dr for you guys.

Low APM. I receive a lot of post-game messages saying something along the lines of, "70 apm, you're obviously a hacker!" I believe most of these accusations are because of my low apm. I believe that if my APM is high, then I'd probably get less accusations because players would presume that it was simple luck instead of hacks.

The reason I have low APM is because I do not spam. I have played StarCraft since around 2002, so after over a decade of StarCraft, I have what I believe to be carpal tunnel syndrome. Therefore, I try to preserve my wrists as much as I can (so I can play more StarCraft for the many years to come). This means that my APM early game is generally sub-fifty. When I micro, or during emergency situations, my APM does spike to 200+. However, I do my best to minimize my clicks.

Therefore, the reason I have low APM is not because I am staring at the keyboard, figuring how to hotkey or move my units, it's a deliberate and conscious decision to preserve my wrists.

Experience and Skill When I started playing Beta (hacks conclusively did not exist in beta), I was one of the top gamers in the NA server. I hit #1 several times and my MMR was high enough to regularly play pros. For example, here's one with idra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTTkrC6wxms . In fact, if I wasn't so caught up with my 12+ hour work schedule, I may have considered training to go pro.

After over a decade of StarCraft, one does get familiar with mindgames and metagaming. I do not monotonously do build orders, throw my units at the enemy, and move on from there. I do try to predict what the enemy will go after he or she scouts my units. Furthermore, scouting is often done by them scouting. For example, when I see an overseer, I know there is a lair tech. If he makes a reaper, I know that he likely went fast expo or will transition to widow mines.

I factor in their previous behavior as well. For example, if I never saw a player do cheese, I may not scout for proxies (or be less thorough when I do). If the player almost always does cheese, I will scrupulously check for proxies and scout early.

Weird and Unorthodox I took a year-and-a-half break and recently started playing HOTS in January. Part of the reason I quit was because I was upset at the balancing (pheonix before pheonix buff/upgrades vs mutas; before infestors were nerfed; reapers before MSC's/nerf; etc).

When I started playing again in January. I lost all of my previous contacts and was completely lost in HotS buildorders and metagaming. Furthermore, I was really busy studying and was quite burnt out so I didn't have the time or diligence to carefully study build orders and learn everything the way I used to. I simply gamed and improvised. Learned some basics from streams, but generally did my own thing.

PvZ, I almost always do a 10 gate opening to deny early hatch with a follow up cannon rush. Zerg often accuse me of hacking because the 10 gate stops both an early pool and an early hatch. However, I do this consistently 95% of my games.

Furthermore, my scouting is not as refined as it should be. Pros tend to time their sentries and time their hallucinations so they can catch timing rushes. I simply am not there yet because I prefer to use the 100 gas for earlier tech. I think this is another reason why people think I hack. I scout with conventional SC2 vanilla tactics (because technically I played HoTs for only about 4 months or so). Therefore, I use the probe and the observer to do most of my scouting, drawing the rest from inferences as we had to back in SC2 vanilla days, before the MSC and free hallucinations.

Conclusion
Sorry for such a long read. Let me summarize...
I am nowhere near where I was back in SC2 vanilla. My tactics are a product of an experienced SC2 vanilla player trying to transition into HotS. I believe this went rather well, considering how I did hit GM last season. Because my tactics are unorthodox, or my apm is low, players often do have a tendency to assume I hack.

As all players, I get lucky sometimes, but I also do get unlucky oftentimes too. What you guys do not see from the submitted replays are the times when I get caught offguard with a surprise 11/11 rax build, or a surprise DT rush when I went 4 gate stalkers, or the time I sent my entire army to attack when he had a dropships filled with his entire army right outside my line of sight. I was pretty lucky with my oracle timing. If I knew that he was making a pheonix, I would have retreated the oracle safely after shield regeneration and used it for another day (revelation, or even defensively vs ground units).

So in conclusion, people tend to accuse hack only when it goes against their favor. I ask that you do not accuse when I get lucky a few times, or because of my APM, or because of my unorthodox tactics. Do a comprehensive analysis, looking at various replays, before making your judgement.


After receiving 10-15 replays of this guy and then sniping him a few games to test a few things I can 100% confirm he hacks. If anyone wants a long version feel free to pm me.


Yeah, I'd like to see your so-called proof. I was streaming all of our games btw.


http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1879

Here's my replay pack, let me know if you need more.


What is your stream link for the vod, there is one thing in particular i want to see.

Also why did you pick and choose those replays? It would be better if you posted replays in succession. I wouldn't care, but the games you provided are not good ways to gauge anything so its obvious you did not pick out good games or something like that.

Just out of interest, why don't you post some of the 10-15 replays that proof he is hacking? Would be much shorter than asking him to proof he doesn't hack. You can post everything you would write in the PMs in here as well.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10797 Posts
May 14 2015 16:33 GMT
#9583
On May 14 2015 17:20 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 14:22 duckk wrote:
On May 14 2015 05:56 [Ever]Water wrote:
On May 14 2015 05:46 duckk wrote:
On May 14 2015 01:52 [Ever]Water wrote:
Hello,

I want to defend myself. This may be long and in rant-form and may be tl;dr for you guys.

Low APM. I receive a lot of post-game messages saying something along the lines of, "70 apm, you're obviously a hacker!" I believe most of these accusations are because of my low apm. I believe that if my APM is high, then I'd probably get less accusations because players would presume that it was simple luck instead of hacks.

The reason I have low APM is because I do not spam. I have played StarCraft since around 2002, so after over a decade of StarCraft, I have what I believe to be carpal tunnel syndrome. Therefore, I try to preserve my wrists as much as I can (so I can play more StarCraft for the many years to come). This means that my APM early game is generally sub-fifty. When I micro, or during emergency situations, my APM does spike to 200+. However, I do my best to minimize my clicks.

Therefore, the reason I have low APM is not because I am staring at the keyboard, figuring how to hotkey or move my units, it's a deliberate and conscious decision to preserve my wrists.

Experience and Skill When I started playing Beta (hacks conclusively did not exist in beta), I was one of the top gamers in the NA server. I hit #1 several times and my MMR was high enough to regularly play pros. For example, here's one with idra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTTkrC6wxms . In fact, if I wasn't so caught up with my 12+ hour work schedule, I may have considered training to go pro.

After over a decade of StarCraft, one does get familiar with mindgames and metagaming. I do not monotonously do build orders, throw my units at the enemy, and move on from there. I do try to predict what the enemy will go after he or she scouts my units. Furthermore, scouting is often done by them scouting. For example, when I see an overseer, I know there is a lair tech. If he makes a reaper, I know that he likely went fast expo or will transition to widow mines.

I factor in their previous behavior as well. For example, if I never saw a player do cheese, I may not scout for proxies (or be less thorough when I do). If the player almost always does cheese, I will scrupulously check for proxies and scout early.

Weird and Unorthodox I took a year-and-a-half break and recently started playing HOTS in January. Part of the reason I quit was because I was upset at the balancing (pheonix before pheonix buff/upgrades vs mutas; before infestors were nerfed; reapers before MSC's/nerf; etc).

When I started playing again in January. I lost all of my previous contacts and was completely lost in HotS buildorders and metagaming. Furthermore, I was really busy studying and was quite burnt out so I didn't have the time or diligence to carefully study build orders and learn everything the way I used to. I simply gamed and improvised. Learned some basics from streams, but generally did my own thing.

PvZ, I almost always do a 10 gate opening to deny early hatch with a follow up cannon rush. Zerg often accuse me of hacking because the 10 gate stops both an early pool and an early hatch. However, I do this consistently 95% of my games.

Furthermore, my scouting is not as refined as it should be. Pros tend to time their sentries and time their hallucinations so they can catch timing rushes. I simply am not there yet because I prefer to use the 100 gas for earlier tech. I think this is another reason why people think I hack. I scout with conventional SC2 vanilla tactics (because technically I played HoTs for only about 4 months or so). Therefore, I use the probe and the observer to do most of my scouting, drawing the rest from inferences as we had to back in SC2 vanilla days, before the MSC and free hallucinations.

Conclusion
Sorry for such a long read. Let me summarize...
I am nowhere near where I was back in SC2 vanilla. My tactics are a product of an experienced SC2 vanilla player trying to transition into HotS. I believe this went rather well, considering how I did hit GM last season. Because my tactics are unorthodox, or my apm is low, players often do have a tendency to assume I hack.

As all players, I get lucky sometimes, but I also do get unlucky oftentimes too. What you guys do not see from the submitted replays are the times when I get caught offguard with a surprise 11/11 rax build, or a surprise DT rush when I went 4 gate stalkers, or the time I sent my entire army to attack when he had a dropships filled with his entire army right outside my line of sight. I was pretty lucky with my oracle timing. If I knew that he was making a pheonix, I would have retreated the oracle safely after shield regeneration and used it for another day (revelation, or even defensively vs ground units).

So in conclusion, people tend to accuse hack only when it goes against their favor. I ask that you do not accuse when I get lucky a few times, or because of my APM, or because of my unorthodox tactics. Do a comprehensive analysis, looking at various replays, before making your judgement.


After receiving 10-15 replays of this guy and then sniping him a few games to test a few things I can 100% confirm he hacks. If anyone wants a long version feel free to pm me.


Yeah, I'd like to see your so-called proof. I was streaming all of our games btw.


http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1879

Here's my replay pack, let me know if you need more.


What is your stream link for the vod, there is one thing in particular i want to see.

Also why did you pick and choose those replays? It would be better if you posted replays in succession. I wouldn't care, but the games you provided are not good ways to gauge anything so its obvious you did not pick out good games or something like that.

Just out of interest, why don't you post some of the 10-15 replays that proof he is hacking? Would be much shorter than asking him to proof he doesn't hack. You can post everything you would write in the PMs in here as well.

Yes, I agree. This thread is way to easily derailed by arguments and accusations, take it to PM's unless you have proof.
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[Ever]Water
Profile Joined May 2015
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 18:08:34
May 14 2015 17:48 GMT
#9584
On May 14 2015 14:22 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 05:56 [Ever]Water wrote:
On May 14 2015 05:46 duckk wrote:
On May 14 2015 01:52 [Ever]Water wrote:
Hello,

I want to defend myself. This may be long and in rant-form and may be tl;dr for you guys.

Low APM. I receive a lot of post-game messages saying something along the lines of, "70 apm, you're obviously a hacker!" I believe most of these accusations are because of my low apm. I believe that if my APM is high, then I'd probably get less accusations because players would presume that it was simple luck instead of hacks.

The reason I have low APM is because I do not spam. I have played StarCraft since around 2002, so after over a decade of StarCraft, I have what I believe to be carpal tunnel syndrome. Therefore, I try to preserve my wrists as much as I can (so I can play more StarCraft for the many years to come). This means that my APM early game is generally sub-fifty. When I micro, or during emergency situations, my APM does spike to 200+. However, I do my best to minimize my clicks.

Therefore, the reason I have low APM is not because I am staring at the keyboard, figuring how to hotkey or move my units, it's a deliberate and conscious decision to preserve my wrists.

Experience and Skill When I started playing Beta (hacks conclusively did not exist in beta), I was one of the top gamers in the NA server. I hit #1 several times and my MMR was high enough to regularly play pros. For example, here's one with idra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTTkrC6wxms . In fact, if I wasn't so caught up with my 12+ hour work schedule, I may have considered training to go pro.

After over a decade of StarCraft, one does get familiar with mindgames and metagaming. I do not monotonously do build orders, throw my units at the enemy, and move on from there. I do try to predict what the enemy will go after he or she scouts my units. Furthermore, scouting is often done by them scouting. For example, when I see an overseer, I know there is a lair tech. If he makes a reaper, I know that he likely went fast expo or will transition to widow mines.

I factor in their previous behavior as well. For example, if I never saw a player do cheese, I may not scout for proxies (or be less thorough when I do). If the player almost always does cheese, I will scrupulously check for proxies and scout early.

Weird and Unorthodox I took a year-and-a-half break and recently started playing HOTS in January. Part of the reason I quit was because I was upset at the balancing (pheonix before pheonix buff/upgrades vs mutas; before infestors were nerfed; reapers before MSC's/nerf; etc).

When I started playing again in January. I lost all of my previous contacts and was completely lost in HotS buildorders and metagaming. Furthermore, I was really busy studying and was quite burnt out so I didn't have the time or diligence to carefully study build orders and learn everything the way I used to. I simply gamed and improvised. Learned some basics from streams, but generally did my own thing.

PvZ, I almost always do a 10 gate opening to deny early hatch with a follow up cannon rush. Zerg often accuse me of hacking because the 10 gate stops both an early pool and an early hatch. However, I do this consistently 95% of my games.

Furthermore, my scouting is not as refined as it should be. Pros tend to time their sentries and time their hallucinations so they can catch timing rushes. I simply am not there yet because I prefer to use the 100 gas for earlier tech. I think this is another reason why people think I hack. I scout with conventional SC2 vanilla tactics (because technically I played HoTs for only about 4 months or so). Therefore, I use the probe and the observer to do most of my scouting, drawing the rest from inferences as we had to back in SC2 vanilla days, before the MSC and free hallucinations.

Conclusion
Sorry for such a long read. Let me summarize...
I am nowhere near where I was back in SC2 vanilla. My tactics are a product of an experienced SC2 vanilla player trying to transition into HotS. I believe this went rather well, considering how I did hit GM last season. Because my tactics are unorthodox, or my apm is low, players often do have a tendency to assume I hack.

As all players, I get lucky sometimes, but I also do get unlucky oftentimes too. What you guys do not see from the submitted replays are the times when I get caught offguard with a surprise 11/11 rax build, or a surprise DT rush when I went 4 gate stalkers, or the time I sent my entire army to attack when he had a dropships filled with his entire army right outside my line of sight. I was pretty lucky with my oracle timing. If I knew that he was making a pheonix, I would have retreated the oracle safely after shield regeneration and used it for another day (revelation, or even defensively vs ground units).

So in conclusion, people tend to accuse hack only when it goes against their favor. I ask that you do not accuse when I get lucky a few times, or because of my APM, or because of my unorthodox tactics. Do a comprehensive analysis, looking at various replays, before making your judgement.


After receiving 10-15 replays of this guy and then sniping him a few games to test a few things I can 100% confirm he hacks. If anyone wants a long version feel free to pm me.


Yeah, I'd like to see your so-called proof. I was streaming all of our games btw.


http://spawningtool.com/replays/?tag=1879

Here's my replay pack, let me know if you need more.


What is your stream link for the vod, there is one thing in particular i want to see.

Also why did you pick and choose those replays? It would be better if you posted replays in succession. I wouldn't care, but the games you provided are not good ways to gauge anything so its obvious you did not pick out good games or something like that.



I PM'ed it to you yesterday. I selected specific replays because many of my games are proxy cheeses, which isn't that informative because there really isn't much to be suspicious about.

The replays I chose was within a range of 20 games or so I played before hitting GM. Some games, I literally put up cannons and they leave immediately after. Other games, it's a 2 gate proxy rush. I just chose some of the longer games so that it's more representative of my play.

Also, I asked you to resolve this through PM's so that we do not derail it into baseless accusations and further tarnish my name. I'll give you whatever you need so I can prove that I do not hack. What more do you want? Why are you so inclined to publicize it? Go talk to me about it. Don't just post one replay or hand-select a few replays where I do get lucky and say that I hack.

I practically do the same 3-5 builds every single game. I know all the timings, I've seen just about everything from mass reapers to mass oracle. I do a risk-benefit analysis for each build to try to optimize the chances of me winning. If my 10 gate counters both your early pool or early hatch, don't say I hack. I do that EVERY PVZ.

I played BW/SC2 for well over a decade. I draw tons of inferences from what you do. Sometimes my inferences are right, and I get accused as a hacker. Other times, my inferences are completely wrong and I get demolished. No one ever complains then. Even the accusers are silent when I do something really stupid with bad inferences. So if you have issues, just bring it up through PM, I'll explain what I was thinking, why I was thinking what I was thinking. If you want replays, I'll give you replays. Don't just call me names, block communication, then post on TL.NET saying that I'm a hacker (playa).
emilele
Profile Joined May 2015
1 Post
May 14 2015 23:59 GMT
#9585
So I played this guy on the ladder and i thought he did some weird stuff, especially army movement early game with reapers at his natural. Then later at 8.30 with his hellions and reapers, like he knew my lings where coming with no scout (scan). So am I crazy or just really bad at the game (plat) and a sour loser? Judge yourself. http://ggtracker.com/matches/5980672
Executor3
Profile Joined May 2015
3 Posts
May 16 2015 11:44 GMT
#9586
Hacker Name: CTFletcher
Server: EU
League: Master (swarm)
Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3705295/1/CTFletcher/
There were some key moments where he just knew where my banshee was going and counter it movement.
Never scouted, he shouldn't have known my opening, but still countered it perfectly.

http://drop.sc/398992
HloKeY
Profile Joined December 2013
Bulgaria1 Post
May 16 2015 11:51 GMT
#9587
Hello!
I would like to support Executor3 in his statement of CTFletcher being a hacker by sharing the following game: http://drop.sc/398994. It was played about 5 months ago and apparently the guy hasn't been banned nor has stopped hacking. He never scans and apparently knows where I have spawned on a 3 player map, so he doesn't really feel the need to ever scout. His drops are quite suspicious as well. I would suggest taking a look at the game! Thank you.
PiPiGranDe
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada70 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 13:39:08
May 17 2015 13:38 GMT
#9588
Blatant MH and production tab hack in a 4 player map. Absolutely NO SCAN or Scout at all....

Builds perfect unit compo and just walks to my natural.

Server: America
Race: Terran
Name: Cheerio

User was warned for this post
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 17 2015 21:12 GMT
#9589
On May 17 2015 22:38 PiPiGranDe wrote:
Blatant MH and production tab hack in a 4 player map. Absolutely NO SCAN or Scout at all....

Builds perfect unit compo and just walks to my natural.

Server: America
Race: Terran
Name: Cheerio

Hey, you need a replay for this.
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NoSoldier
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany84 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 10:11:02
May 18 2015 09:43 GMT
#9590
Race: Terran
Server: Eu <--- does this matter anymore?

Name: Some Barcode yet again <.<

Hey guys,

i think i got another funny one for you:

This is an 112 minute game in master league with a lot of little shady stuff going on. A friend of mine made me aware of this. Its general hellion movement, lategame raven movement, early shenanigans as well. What sold me to reporting this however, is the fact, that this kiddo cant macro for good and is in master league.

Yes im losing. Because i suck. Im not salty though, i had fun and took a lot of knowledge to improve my play from this game.

Enjoy.

http://drop.sc/399053
If i only had a clue on how to have a clue... life could be sooo easy. :D
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
May 18 2015 11:29 GMT
#9591
On May 18 2015 18:43 NoSoldier wrote:
Race: Terran
Server: Eu <--- does this matter anymore?

Name: Some Barcode yet again <.<

Hey guys,

i think i got another funny one for you:

This is an 112 minute game in master league with a lot of little shady stuff going on. A friend of mine made me aware of this. Its general hellion movement, lategame raven movement, early shenanigans as well. What sold me to reporting this however, is the fact, that this kiddo cant macro for good and is in master league.

Yes im losing. Because i suck. Im not salty though, i had fun and took a lot of knowledge to improve my play from this game.

Enjoy.

http://drop.sc/399053


that guy dropped like 15 auto-turrets next to a morphing hatch he didn´t scout.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
May 18 2015 15:56 GMT
#9592
I could take over the thread if its ok? Since the "op" is banned
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
sickless11
Profile Joined February 2015
5 Posts
May 18 2015 21:37 GMT
#9593
how is that even possible? it felt like a huge damn troll game to me.
http://drop.sc/399064
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 20 2015 14:37 GMT
#9594
On May 19 2015 00:56 neteX wrote:
I could take over the thread if its ok? Since the "op" is banned


PM a red. Good luck.. It's a chore
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10797 Posts
May 20 2015 18:40 GMT
#9595
I honestly think it is time for a new thread to be made, a more organized one.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
May 20 2015 18:54 GMT
#9596
(be sure to include http://www.sc2overwatch.com in the new thread)

Cereal
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 23:46:54
May 21 2015 23:26 GMT
#9597
Guys, I think I may have played a hacker in GM (gasp). Since I'm not sure, though, and it's really hard to tell, I provided a replay. Could you guys help me out? I've been painstakingly analyzing it day and night, and I just can't tell...

Server: NA
Race: Toss
League: GM
Player:lllllIIlllll
Replay: http://drop.sc/399046

In seriousness, no one bothers posting replays on hackers in GM because it's a waste of time. This is an every day thing. Everyone already knows the most blatant ones. It's not like you guys are going to play them. You "friend" add them, then you try to avoid playing them again. I only mentioned "water" because I was tilted by the idea he has been playing the past two years without being banned. Unless it's been an absurdly long time or the player is playing in competitions, no point in posting.

What's worse than hackers is allowing team leaders to post in this thread. Nothing is more scummy than team leaders who post in these threads. They should all be banned. They always talk about how they're a clean team and how they remove hackers, etc, etc. When is the last time a team leader reported someone that was on their team? Never? Most people play a person 1 time or two times and realize they're hacking, then try to avoid them. If you were to post 1 or 2 replays, invariably, people would say "could have just been luck," etc.

No one has the time/memory, etc, to go through every stream archive to show the clueless what you already know, and what everyone else in GM already knows. Team leaders aren't genuine. They're just abusing this. So scummy.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
May 22 2015 19:57 GMT
#9598
Hacker name: [PKL]ILoveUass
Server: NA
League: Platinum
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5949956/1/IloveUass/
B.net: battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/18193821245013753856
Replay: http://drop.sc/399174
Description: TvZ 25 minutes game, no scouting at all. Moves his army multiple times to counter my army movements with no intel.
*This one is one of those rare and cute specimens, had the audacity to call me a hacker.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Mecto
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada41 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-23 19:48:03
May 23 2015 18:21 GMT
#9599
Hacker name: SHaITan, currently playing for Good Game Kids.[GGK]
Server: Wol NA
League: Diamond
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2766645/1/SHaITan/
B.net: battlenet://starcraft/profile/1/14734378315339005952
Replay: http://drop.sc/399224
Description:

Brief summary: We played an unorthodox TvP, he went for an hidden base, which took me forever to realize. I get super far behind and try to make something happen with my first 4 medivacs by dropping everywhere. His drop defense, unit splitting and defensive unit warp ins were 100% correctly done, with 0 vision on the map. He never made a single obs.

Description:

Nothing too suspicious before 7:00

7:00 He tries to intercept an scv he didn't see coming, changes his mind and decides to place his stalker in the exact scv path without trying to look too obvious.

7:27 He selects his stalker before seeing the scv, ready to micro against it.

9:58 he sees my units coming on the map, he selects his units ready to micro against my push. He selects his colossus and start micro'ing it before my units are in sight range. His units were perfectly placed to intercept mine.

10:50 I send a random scv in his base, he preselects his units once again, frantically clicks toward my scv. He had 0 vision.

12:45 my first 2 medivacs are heading toward his undefended base. He has no vision. He splits his army, then warps in units to defend before knowing the drop is coming.

13:10 he is now ready to defend a drop he never saw, pre warped units and once again he had preselected his units and was ready to micro.

13:50 I send another double drop to his main, while attacking his hidden base.

14:03 while having 0 vision, he splits his unit to the main and hidden base. leaving his natural with 0 units.

14:20 Another pre warp in to defend, still 0 vision.

14:30 With 0 vision, he selects his unit ready to defend a drop he hadn't seen until now.

15:10 Once again, he selects his unit ready to defend a push. he had 0 vision, but he is ready to micro against my units.

16:20 I organized a triple drop going to his main, he breaks the rocks as fast as he can, then he frantically moves his unit while spamming clicks as fast as possible toward the unseen triple medivacs. Map vision: 0.

20:05 I decide to regroup for the kill. he sees my vikings, selects his stalkers and tries to intercept them. 0 map vision.

Terran fighting
Sno0pyz
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark5 Posts
May 24 2015 18:21 GMT
#9600
http://drop.sc/399215 Enjoy a very obvious terran hacker Hope he will get banned!
European starcraft 2 player :)
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