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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On April 03 2013 04:20 Sverigevader wrote:Server: EU Game : WOL Name : (eQual) CriTiCal Rank : Diamond (but on master MMR after a massive win streak) Replays: Replay nr 1 - PvT - Entombed Valley http://drop.sc/317104Never scouts anything, goes super early storm while terran goes tripple CC, goes up to 4 base fast and adds tripple forge and tripple robo. Then goes on to plant storms in the fog of war. Blatant use of maphack!? Replay nr 2 - PvP - Entombed Valley http://drop.sc/317106 Never scouts anything, peaks into enemy base and sees the double stargate transition and immediatly gets blink and mass stalker and then busts the front. Blatant use of maphack!? Anyone better suited to sniff out maphack could watch these replays and confirm (no I'm not demanding that TT1 should watch it)...
Battle.Net - Profile: Here
Here is a third replay with the same dude "(eQual) CriTiCal" :
A PvZ played on Entombed valley
http://drop.sc/317124
Greedy opener, pretty standard on entombed, throws up a pylon to block his ramp before having vision of any lings, cancels it when the lings retreat. The Zerg goes for a 200/200 mass doom roach drop, strangely enough our protoss friend CriTiCal went tripple robo immortal without any scouting at all.
I watched several of his build orders and I have to say he pullt out hardcounter builds vs everything from 6 pools to canon rushing. Magical one might say...:/ or not. Please put this guy in the confirmed hackers list.
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Veto.
I can't see any "proof". Its hearsay and guessing ("I watched several of his build orders .." from ImperialFist as well as from Sverigevader ("Anyone better suited to sniff out maphack..") fmpov.
With all due respect.
Please double check the sheer number of games he played (different play times etc.) as well as his overall win/lose ratio at SC2Ranks.com
This is skill from my point of view combined with a portion of good luck.
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I dont think WoL should be reported anymore.
To be honest who cares about wol anymore(sorry no one does)
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On April 03 2013 06:21 propagare wrote:
Veto.
I can't see any "proof". Its hearsay and guessing ("I watched several of his build orders .." from ImperialFist fmpov.
With all due respect.
Please double check the sheer number of games he played (different play times etc.) as well as his overall win/lose ratio at SC2Ranks.com
This is skill from my point of view combined with a portion of good luck.
huh?
did you watch any of the replays?
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Yes. Please come up with real proofs against him. His is the clan leader of [eQual]ilty (100 members).
PS I am reporting player NAKRANOTH (replay; in the end of the game) for: hate speech to Blizzard. One of the accuser btw.
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On April 03 2013 06:35 propagare wrote:
Yes. Please come up with real proofs against him. His is the clan leader of [eQual]ilty (100 members).
Hmm interesting, well in my eyes he is clearly a maphacker and a cheater. But this is not for you or me to decide anyway. You're even on the same team as him...
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It is irrelevant who is defending someone as long as the smearers doesn't come up with any bullet proof details. Right? ("In dubio pro reo")
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On April 03 2013 06:35 propagare wrote:
Yes. Please come up with real proofs against him. His is the clan leader of [eQual]ilty (100 members).
PS I am reporting player NAKRANOTH (replay; in the end of the game) for: hate speech to Blizzard. One of the accuser btw.
So I thought it was a bit suspicious your first post on this forum was to defend a "skilled player" that wasn't you but was accused of maphacking, so I checked 2 out of 3 of the replays out. I don't even need to check the third.
The first game I checked (the third, posted by ImperialFist) wasn't so clear cut. The counter build was perfect, there was literally no scouting (didn't even know the natural went up when the fast third was taken) but that could be coincidence, it wasn't enough to say for certain. After the drop though there's a random camera click with no apparent purpose, unless you swap to everyone's view, in which case you see that's a camera check to make sure the overlords that are precisely at that spot aren't about to move in and drop.
On April 03 2013 04:20 Sverigevader wrote:Replay nr 2 - PvP - Entombed Valley http://drop.sc/317106 Never scouts anything, peaks into enemy base and sees the double stargate transition and immediatly gets blink and mass stalker and then busts the front. Blatant use of maphack!? Anyone better suited to sniff out maphack could watch these replays and confirm (no I'm not demanding that TT1 should watch it)...
This one is obvious however. Literally 0 scouting until the final attack actually hits. Every single occasion somewhere on the map is checked without a command, there's something interesting there which there shouldn't be vision of. Several army peaks, random army movements, a stalker not seen intercepted as it scouts the not taken third (which I almost gave as a potential accidental movement, apart from the spam clicking to intercept and when it is taken there is no such check). But then, the thing that really gives it away is the literally perfect blinking in the final fight. Particularly note worthy is the blinking that remains perfect while the army isn't even selected and units are being warped in.
Clearly a cheater.
PvP - Entombed Valley http://drop.sc/317106
5:20: Suspiciously timed, but not damning movement towards scouting probe.
6:16: Units follow Stalkers without vision, in a different way to where they were last legitimately seen heading.
9:22: Attack move on to Stalker without vision, with commands constantly clicked towards it.
10:17: Suspicious army peak (semi-looks like it might have been a move command, but pulled back for no reason)
12:20: Suspicious look directly on two Stargates (Because of location, were it alone this wouldn't be enough.) with no command.
12:31: Army peak, no command given.
13:01 Army peak, no command given.
13:26 - Perfect blinks without army selection, whilst warping in.
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After watching the replays again I am completely sure that Critical is not only a cheater and a maphacker but also a really horrible clan leader.
Specifically watch replay nr 1. The PvT - Timestamp is 14:20. Explain that away....rofl
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On April 03 2013 06:35 propagare wrote:
Yes. Please come up with real proofs against him. His is the clan leader of [eQual]ilty (100 members).
PS I am reporting player NAKRANOTH (replay; in the end of the game) for: hate speech to Blizzard. One of the accuser btw.
So these are my predictions:
1. You are the hacker
2. You are in the same clan as the hacker
3. You aren't very perceptive or didn't even watch the replays.
Lets look at this replay (http://drop.sc/317106) shall we?
-His opponent does a 3 gate, and he opens fast double gas into defensive 4 gate with 0 scouting. You'd expect a diamond to know better than to do such a terrible build.
5:18 - looks into fog at probe and anticipates it coming up the ramp
9:22 - looks into fog directly to enemy stalker at his third and sends his army to intercept it
13:15 - obvious use of blink hacks
You're not fooling anyone propagare, go away please.
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On April 03 2013 06:21 SoOJuuu wrote:
I dont think WoL should be reported anymore.
To be honest who cares about wol anymore(sorry no one does)
Unless they hack in WoL but also play HotS. You can do both after all.
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I came here to you as an official member of the eQual clan. Hiding nothing about me or my opinion. And this is your reaction? Nice. Life long and prosper genius.
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On April 03 2013 07:57 propagare wrote:
I came here to you as an official member of the eQual clan. Hiding nothing about me or my opinion. And this is your reaction? Nice. Life long and prosper genius.
hmm this is awkward
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On April 03 2013 07:57 propagare wrote:
I came here to you as an official member of the eQual clan. Hiding nothing about me or my opinion. And this is your reaction? Nice. Life long and prosper genius.
Your opinion is that your clan leader does not hack despite blatant evidence of him cheating. A pretty weak and biased opinion if you ask me.
If you would like to refute the analysis I did, and possibly explain how your clan leader manages to blink his stalkers without selecting them, I would be happy to hear it. Otherwise I won't be replying to you anymore. Your clan has a bright future, I can tell already.
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On April 03 2013 07:57 propagare wrote:
I came here to you as an official member of the eQual clan. Hiding nothing about me or my opinion. And this is your reaction? Nice. Life long and prosper genius.
Obvious maphacker troll is obvious.
You didnt really think this would work did you?
This entire clan should be black listed if this is true, which it is.
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On April 03 2013 07:57 propagare wrote:
I came here to you as an official member of the eQual clan. Hiding nothing about me or my opinion. And this is your reaction? Nice. Life long and prosper genius.
I don't think you should keep arguing in this thread. He's cleary hacking, nothing to do about it. Also, apart of using maphacks, he's also using auto-worker. His nexus produce exactly 22 probes per base, and produce also when not selected. That's the ultimate proof. Your buddy will get banned sooner or later.
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On April 03 2013 07:10 propagare wrote:
It is irrelevant who is defending someone as long as the smearers doesn't come up with any bullet proof details. Right? ("In dubio pro reo")
3 posts. Defending what appears to be some fairly blatant map hacking. Not transparent at all.
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On April 02 2013 08:57 Rickyvalle21 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 07:58 sc2chronic wrote: Hacker name: targaryen Server: NA League: masters in wol, has HOTS but not laddering 1s Description: Teamliquid search showed hes been banned under the name "Lone" before. Also "hacking buddies" with other hackers that have been banned. game notes: + Show Spoiler +
2:43 - he saves his money for nexus and sees my drone come down to make a hatchery. without scouting my main, realizes i am going gas/pool first and instead throws down forge first with 400 minerals. camera locks during this as well
4:30 - as soon as roach warren goes down, he throws up THREE cannons and an extra pylon behind it. still no scout of my main or third.
6:10 - 5 blind cannons now and another extra pylon (by now hes at 26/52 supply)
im watching this all go down with my ovy and already know that hes maphacking. i decide to go for lair and nydus attempt to see if he starts to build pylons around his base to spot them just to make sure that he is.
7:00 - sentry and another cannon (cus just for good measure). he now for the first time sees my roaches and no third. my lair is almost complete.
8:15 - i start my nydus and he instantly moves his probe which he was using to build something else, goes the other way and builds spotting pylons around his main. first one next to my ovy and second one near the same spot. obviously the nydus thrown down on his natural was in his vision so thats not a maphacking detail but he tries to use that as an "im not maphacking" point.
his other opponents that i asked said they felt suspicious, but take it for what its worth. http://drop.sc/316859http://imgur.com/hWliAs7http://imgur.com/6DeNTCd Heh thats the account Deezer hacked when he was rank 1 grandmaster with 90% win ratio about a year and a half ago. Him Lone and Rawtalent have been hacking for a long long time dating back to Warcraft3. I thought they stopped for awhile but it seems they never will. Edit: Hotkeys are similar to Deezer. Its a very high chance that this is Deezer.
* Targaryen just today changed his name to PiLLowTaLK
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