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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
April 03 2013 00:32 GMT
#5181
propagare, playing victim won't make your clan leader any less guilty of maphacking.

There isn't anything left here to discuss, and now you're being immature blaming others for attacking you.

I happen to be fluent in 2 languages and am learning a third, pretty cool isn't it? But it doesn't affect a maphacking discussion.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
Sc2HDB
Profile Joined March 2013
Bahamas64 Posts
April 03 2013 08:25 GMT
#5182
Hi guys,

Just a word to let you know that Sc2HDB Online Checker has been updated for Sc2 2.07. You still can find the tool at www.starcraft2hackerdatabase.com.

The Disclaimer has been updated thanks to Mavvie for my grammar mistakes.

The Database still contain confirmed hackers from the first post and i'm working hard to put the website online ASAP since they are more and more hackers reported but not confirmed.

I'm also hiring admins for the website but i'll explain that on the main thread :SC2 HDB Thread

FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 08:54:09
April 03 2013 08:53 GMT
#5183
Hi. I have a question.

Because i see a lot of people speaking about automated production (building a worker without selecting the CC or Nexus).

But if you queue two or three probes. You will be building without selecting. No ? I'm just wondering. I read that thread quite often and this always bugged me.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 11:18:32
April 03 2013 11:17 GMT
#5184
On April 03 2013 07:57 propagare wrote:
I came here to you as an official member of the eQual clan. Hiding nothing about me or my opinion. And this is your reaction? Nice. Life long and prosper genius.


If you really aren't the person, then fair enough, there's no evidence of you personally cheating but you might not want to associate with a known hacker. But it does seem a bit odd. Particularly so because in both the language you use to describe him and the fact you're more concerned with defending him than finding out whether your clan leader is cheating you're being very defensive (reporting someone for saying 'fuck you' from someone else's replay seems especially defensive).

It also doesn't help that on almost every single occasion that someone comes in to this thread to defend their friend, they always describe them as just being "skilled" and also tend to end up admitting it was really them all along. Makes us a bit cynical, and is in fact why I always check the replays when it happens.
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ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
April 03 2013 15:13 GMT
#5185
There are close to 100 members in the german "eQual" clan. I've contacted a bunch of them and some of them already know that their clan leader is a hacker and they threated to report me if I contact any of their members about the truth. Everyone I've contacted yet reacts very defensively and before they block me they all send the same message:

"I will report you if you contact me or any other member of [eQual] "

(The same message that Propagare once sent me)

Now while writing this I've received a bunch of threats, tbh I feel really sorry for this clan. One of them told me that their "sponsor" knows it and it's ok for them.

It's like trying to communicate with sect members.

"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
JustTray
Profile Joined May 2011
127 Posts
April 03 2013 15:23 GMT
#5186
On April 04 2013 00:13 ImperialFist wrote:
There are close to 100 members in the german "eQual" clan. I've contacted a bunch of them and some of them already know that their clan leader is a hacker and they threated to report me if I contact any of their members about the truth. Everyone I've contacted yet reacts very defensively and before they block me they all send the same message:

"I will report you if you contact me or any other member of [eQual] "

(The same message that Propagare once sent me)

Now while writing this I've received a bunch of threats, tbh I feel really sorry for this clan. One of them told me that their "sponsor" knows it and it's ok for them.

It's like trying to communicate with sect members.



Good work you should try to contact their sponser and link this thread. Should be enough to get them disbanded. That type of cult mentality should not go unpunished.
Youpla
Profile Joined August 2010
France8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 16:31:02
April 03 2013 16:27 GMT
#5187
Hey ppl, guess who I met on the ladder...

http://drop.sc/317333

Yes It's him, the famous (eQual) CriTiCal !

You all saw him not scouting at all during 20 minutes, now you can see him doing the opposite, and the fact that I was doing proxy gate can be nothing but a coincidence *cough*.

This replay by itself contains 10000 proofs of maphacking. I blame blizzard for beeing so passive towards these guys
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel354 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 17:38:48
April 03 2013 17:36 GMT
#5188
Hi, I need someone to help analyze a suspicious replay.

Server: EU
Game : HotS
Name : [CNM]ShadowWalker, [CNM]LoveYAragaki
Rank : Masters 2v2

http://drop.sc/317356

A friend and I just played this couple in 2v2, they turtled tank/mines and voidrays (with terran possibly feeding protoss).
There are a few suspicious incidents that I found in the game:
11:00 - LoveYAragaki's camera moves a little bit weird when he scans our bases, and also jumps around in a weird way throughout the game (very unnatural, looks like camera lock)
16:48 - LoveYAragaki scans my army the SECOND it burrows. He can barely see a roach and a hydra, but he isn't even watching. His camera just jumps there and scans. (this one could be legit I guess)
24:10 - LoveYAragaki scans my incoming drop (bottom right), completely out of the blue, with no clues whatsoever. Scans once more after sees it which is just stupid, perhaps to make sure I saw a scan, so that I would think he's legit.

I could be completely wrong about this, that's why I'm asking for you guys to try and analyze this one. Thanks.

Please ignore my ingame chat rage.
chiefcll
Profile Joined August 2011
United States4 Posts
April 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#5189
Server: NA
Game : HotS
Name : Hailey
Rank : Masters 1v1

He is top ranked masters terran player with 120APM - at 8min mark he kills a warp prism cause he knows its coming. Then when I get dts around 10, and then around 13min when he positions for a warp prism.

http://drop.sc/317538
http://drop.sc/players/US/2812355/Hailey
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 03 2013 18:23 GMT
#5190
On April 04 2013 02:44 chiefcll wrote:
Server: NA
Game : HotS
Name : Hailey
Rank : Masters 1v1

He is top ranked masters terran player with 120APM - at 8min mark he kills a warp prism cause he knows its coming. Then when I get dts around 10, and then around 13min when he positions for a warp prism.

http://drop.sc/317538
http://drop.sc/players/US/2812355/Hailey


This person has already been confirmed in this thread. 5 months later and still hacking. Can't help but laugh at blizz posting in this thread and acknowledging the work done here.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 03 2013 18:38 GMT
#5191
On April 04 2013 00:13 ImperialFist wrote:
There are close to 100 members in the german "eQual" clan. I've contacted a bunch of them and some of them already know that their clan leader is a hacker and they threated to report me if I contact any of their members about the truth. Everyone I've contacted yet reacts very defensively and before they block me they all send the same message:

"I will report you if you contact me or any other member of [eQual] "

(The same message that Propagare once sent me)

Now while writing this I've received a bunch of threats, tbh I feel really sorry for this clan. One of them told me that their "sponsor" knows it and it's ok for them.

It's like trying to communicate with sect members.



You know that feeling when you see something so incredibly stupid, and can't even comprehend it or put into words how ridiculous it is? It doesn't happen often, but I'm having that feeling right now.

Propagare has shown that he clearly isn't a very clever person by any stretch of the word, but it's hard to believe so many people in his clan have so much in common with him.

Good job trying to expose this group of slow children. I also wouldn't take their word about the sponsors not caring. Someone should definitely link them this thread.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 03 2013 18:41 GMT
#5192
On April 04 2013 03:38 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 00:13 ImperialFist wrote:
There are close to 100 members in the german "eQual" clan. I've contacted a bunch of them and some of them already know that their clan leader is a hacker and they threated to report me if I contact any of their members about the truth. Everyone I've contacted yet reacts very defensively and before they block me they all send the same message:

"I will report you if you contact me or any other member of [eQual] "

(The same message that Propagare once sent me)

Now while writing this I've received a bunch of threats, tbh I feel really sorry for this clan. One of them told me that their "sponsor" knows it and it's ok for them.

It's like trying to communicate with sect members.



You know that feeling when you see something so incredibly stupid, and can't even comprehend it or put into words how ridiculous it is? It doesn't happen often, but I'm having that feeling right now.

Propagare has shown that he clearly isn't a very clever person by any stretch of the word, but it's hard to believe so many people in his clan have so much in common with him.

Good job trying to expose this group of slow children. I also wouldn't take their word about the sponsors not caring. Someone should definitely link them this thread.


i had that very feeling with the whole nitrix incident.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
April 03 2013 19:54 GMT
#5193
New Maphacker:

WLHadam
NA Server

replay: http://drop.sc/317574

proof: http://imgur.com/pRTJMI5

the chat log is really long... he basically is just saying that he is maphacking to learn timings... but still, maphacking is maphacking.
http://www.twitch.tv/shew_tv | @ClarityShew on Twitter~
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 20:27:08
April 03 2013 20:25 GMT
#5194
WLHadam = WLHgeorge or Randal?

aka xpFelicis who was part of that clan that a while back had the drama in this thread where some ex-member accused xpFelicis of maphacking, then the coach saying that Felicis did maphack but was just a coach and not a player...etc?

I remember WLHgeorge (or WLHRandal, I forget the name) being confirmed on the HotS Hacker Thread.

If it is the same person, I talked to him (he's a "friend" of sorts) and he said that he didn't maphack, just that somebody was impersonating him and maphacking. I don't know, just throwing out thoughts of things that could be related.

edit: worth noting is that last time I checked, Felicis (top GM terran) was learning Protoss and hit GM in a few hundred games. Could be good mechanics and fast learning, could be hacking, I can't know. He streams very rarely, and I have seen almost no ladder games played on his stream.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 20:50:06
April 03 2013 20:46 GMT
#5195
Server: NA
Level: Master
Date: 4/3/2013
Opponent: |||||||||||||

Replay: http://drop.sc/317588

Summary:
He doesn't make it obvious at all the entire replay. The time he slipped was at the end; he looks through the fog of war at my army approaching him and leaves the game. He also was attempting to 10 pool me but i luckily pylon walled on top of my small ramp. Even though he got whooped, he maphacks regardless at my level and he has a decent record. He played a GM(Shew) 3 games before me as well.

Key points:
1:05 - cancels 10 pool in response to not seeing FFE
9:50 - throws up 8 BLIND spore crawlers even though he is super behind already.
13:45 - looks through fog of war to see my sexy army going to sex his base up
14:00 - end of regulation. leaves the game with no vision (this is what made me watch the replay again)

Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 20:52:48
April 03 2013 20:47 GMT
#5196
On April 04 2013 04:54 Shew wrote:
New Maphacker:

WLHadam
NA Server

replay: http://drop.sc/317574

proof: http://imgur.com/pRTJMI5

the chat log is really long... he basically is just saying that he is maphacking to learn timings... but still, maphacking is maphacking.



Dude shew, you played a maphacker i just posted up. LOL you beat him though. I saw your game in his match history.

Edit: I'm 100% sure we played the same maphacker. Look to see if i am in his match history. It should be his loss on Newkirk city, 3 games above you.

He must have just changed his name to barcode after you called him out to avoid being caught. I also approached him on chat after the game and told him he was obv maphacking. his response was "trying to get banned fool"
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
April 03 2013 23:18 GMT
#5197
On April 04 2013 05:47 acidstormy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:54 Shew wrote:
New Maphacker:

WLHadam
NA Server

replay: http://drop.sc/317574

proof: http://imgur.com/pRTJMI5

the chat log is really long... he basically is just saying that he is maphacking to learn timings... but still, maphacking is maphacking.



Dude shew, you played a maphacker i just posted up. LOL you beat him though. I saw your game in his match history.

Edit: I'm 100% sure we played the same maphacker. Look to see if i am in his match history. It should be his loss on Newkirk city, 3 games above you.

He must have just changed his name to barcode after you called him out to avoid being caught. I also approached him on chat after the game and told him he was obv maphacking. his response was "trying to get banned fool"


sorry i searched his name and didn't see it so i thought he was new

he told me he was just using it to get to gm so he can "learn zerg" then play real when he's in GM. But with WCS coming up and GM actually mattering for it, this kind of behavior is just flat out unacceptable.
http://www.twitch.tv/shew_tv | @ClarityShew on Twitter~
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
April 04 2013 00:05 GMT
#5198
On April 04 2013 02:36 RezJ wrote:
Hi, I need someone to help analyze a suspicious replay.

Server: EU
Game : HotS
Name : [CNM]ShadowWalker, [CNM]LoveYAragaki
Rank : Masters 2v2

http://drop.sc/317356

A friend and I just played this couple in 2v2, they turtled tank/mines and voidrays (with terran possibly feeding protoss).
There are a few suspicious incidents that I found in the game:
11:00 - LoveYAragaki's camera moves a little bit weird when he scans our bases, and also jumps around in a weird way throughout the game (very unnatural, looks like camera lock)
16:48 - LoveYAragaki scans my army the SECOND it burrows. He can barely see a roach and a hydra, but he isn't even watching. His camera just jumps there and scans. (this one could be legit I guess)
24:10 - LoveYAragaki scans my incoming drop (bottom right), completely out of the blue, with no clues whatsoever. Scans once more after sees it which is just stupid, perhaps to make sure I saw a scan, so that I would think he's legit.

I could be completely wrong about this, that's why I'm asking for you guys to try and analyze this one. Thanks.

Please ignore my ingame chat rage.


11:00: The camera movement is jerky, i don't know, he may just be moving the camera by clicking on the minimap..

16:48: He sees the hydra/roach from the minimap, he sees he's burrowing, and he scans there. no big deal.

24:10: From my point of view, he scans there because he wanted to check for expos. It could be coincidence or not, but if it is, he got extremely lucky.
m1rk3
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 00:39:49
April 04 2013 00:32 GMT
#5199
http://drop.sc/317645

Hacker name Predators
Server North American
League no career finishes (1v1), diamond 2v2
Description: I started a 2v2 and when I proxy I see no probe during game play and then the probe appears out of nowhere. I reviewed the replay to verify why the opponents (rdbotot) probe went to my rax. i confirmed that the protoss did not see my scv and went straight to my proxy.

After further review, I found that Predators was the one with the map hack. From the beginning he scouts the 9 pool and then scouts my base through the fog of war. When I build my proxy he also moves his camera to the location of my proxy like a NOOB.

i'm sorry, but these idiots messaged me after the game saying "APM for nothing". These SOB's don't deserve to be in the league and they definitely don't deserve to be running around bnet cheating other players. So disgusting, that these guys had the balls to cheat but they make it so obvious.

Rdbotot was working with Predators. They both have the same clan tag "flippin"

Here are the times:
:20 Checks zerg
:30 recheck zerg
:54 recheck zerg
1:04 looks at my base
1:50 looks at proxy
For the Dominion!
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
April 04 2013 00:50 GMT
#5200
On April 04 2013 09:32 m1rk3 wrote:
http://drop.sc/317645

Hacker name Predators
Server North American
League no career finishes (1v1), diamond 2v2
Description: I started a 2v2 and when I proxy I see no probe during game play and then the probe appears out of nowhere. I reviewed the replay to verify why the opponents (rdbotot) probe went to my rax. i confirmed that the protoss did not see my scv and went straight to my proxy.

After further review, I found that Predators was the one with the map hack. From the beginning he scouts the 9 pool and then scouts my base through the fog of war. When I build my proxy he also moves his camera to the location of my proxy like a NOOB.

i'm sorry, but these idiots messaged me after the game saying "APM for nothing". These SOB's don't deserve to be in the league and they definitely don't deserve to be running around bnet cheating other players. So disgusting, that these guys had the balls to cheat but they make it so obvious.

Rdbotot was working with Predators. They both have the same clan tag "flippin"

Here are the times:
:20 Checks zerg
:30 recheck zerg
:54 recheck zerg
1:04 looks at my base
1:50 looks at proxy


Yeah, he's really clearly hacking. I wonder if both are hacking..

By the way, i don't get how some people can be so obvious and some can hide it so well...
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