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-MoOsE-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States236 Posts
May 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#121
On May 16 2012 08:48 mikkmagro wrote:
I don't see why coL would let go of CatZ and Drewbie when they are clearly better, and more well known than most of their North American players like Ryan, rsvp, Goswser etc, so I think that they actually want to leave themselves, so a Root reform might actually happen.



those lesser players probably do not get paid or very little. People like catz though need to be paid since they are playing full time. I think ryan is a teacher now or something (don't quote me on this) so he doesn't play much anymore. He is more on the team for just fun I would guess right now maybe he will play more in the future, but the main point is that the players that left probably wanted more money that col could offer ( or wanted to reform root )
The King in the North Fighting
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#122
On May 16 2012 08:48 mikkmagro wrote:
I don't see why coL would let go of CatZ and Drewbie when they are clearly better, and more well known than most of their North American players like Ryan, rsvp, Goswser etc, so I think that they actually want to leave themselves, so a Root reform might actually happen.


I don't think they are better than any of the players you just listed...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Everest9
Profile Joined July 2011
Nepal88 Posts
May 16 2012 00:03 GMT
#123
Wow, didn't really see this coming especially after the interview with namely CatZ and Drewbie right after IPl4 (which was done by coL themselves).

I just hope CatZ keeps playing SC2... he's my favourite "outsider" for sure, and he spices up the scene with his personality and his standard play.
Hipsters gonna hip.
Duendain
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden7 Posts
May 16 2012 00:05 GMT
#124
On May 16 2012 08:29 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 08:18 Nuubie wrote:
CatZ was bad for the scene overall.


Judging by you being from Sweden, you must be from the Naniwa school of though of "Catz being famous is embarrassing"

Oh, it's definiatly because he is swedish. Definiatly that.

Or: It could because he thinks that. Do not drag down all of us in this. I have seen that alot this last few weeks. (Of all countries.)
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 16 2012 00:27 GMT
#125
Best of luck to both parties. I'll jump on the wagon and eagerly await the return of ROOT.
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
May 16 2012 00:32 GMT
#126
Oh shit, the return of ROOT...
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
May 16 2012 00:34 GMT
#127
very professional announcement by coL
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 16 2012 00:43 GMT
#128
Basically "We don't want to renew contracts where we have pay for someone to travel from Peru", I guess.

Best of luck to everyone and all that.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Bango
Profile Joined April 2011
United States106 Posts
May 16 2012 00:47 GMT
#129
ROOT will return!! :D gahhhhhhhhhh
ello x]
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
May 16 2012 00:57 GMT
#130
On May 16 2012 09:43 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Basically "We don't want to renew contracts where we have pay for someone to travel from Peru", I guess.

Best of luck to everyone and all that.

Personally I'm hoping it is more along the lines of some big sponsor saying,
"There is still an extreme amount of very cheap brand value in the ROOT tag, second only to TL and maybe EG. With Catz, Drewbie and Kiwi we can restore the brand to its former glory."
If done right a ROOT revival could give some sponsor a fairly cheap, but very popular team.

In any case good luck to both parties, hope it works out.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 01:13:59
May 16 2012 01:04 GMT
#131
People need to stop saying that CatZ, drewbie leaving has to do with them being "bad" or lacking results.. If that were the case then Minigun would have been gone as well because he has had even lesser results then CatZ.

Its likely because they wanted to pursue other things, eg: CatZ maybe wanting to reform ROOT. Or them wanting a bit more than coL is wishing to dish out.

I can hardly see CatZ refusing to accept a lower offer from coL and leaving the team as result without a back-up plan in mind.. So I'm sure he is either wanting to (once again) reform ROOT, or pursue a contract with another team that has a bit more salary space.

Its not surprising seeing coL want to free that up after picking up Ganzi and what not. I'm almost certain that the only reason Minigun stayed is because he was willing to bite on a lower offer.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
May 16 2012 01:10 GMT
#132
On May 16 2012 06:46 Toppp wrote:
No results to show for them really.

Last I checked Drewbie had some results as well as Catz though minor but his sream is a big one unlike Ryze who got an extension? You only spoke of who got cut not who got their contracts extended.
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
May 16 2012 01:13 GMT
#133
On May 16 2012 07:31 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 07:25 MooMooMugi wrote:
Drewbie going to be married soon, makes sense

That was broken off like 8 months ago unless you are talking about Drewbie meeting some mamacita from Peru and marrying her which I highly doubt.

Not surprising, but if you're right, that really, really sucks.
Bwiggly
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
May 16 2012 01:18 GMT
#134
Pleaseeeee let this mean ROOT is reforming!!
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 01:20:45
May 16 2012 01:19 GMT
#135
On May 16 2012 08:29 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 08:18 Nuubie wrote:
CatZ was bad for the scene overall.


Judging by you being from Sweden, you must be from the Naniwa school of though of "Catz being famous is embarrassing"

catz being not socially awkward is embarassing, for me.

ftfy

he's a great guy and very entertaining overall on stream. catz that is.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 01:22:47
May 16 2012 01:19 GMT
#136
On May 16 2012 08:48 mikkmagro wrote:
I don't see why coL would let go of CatZ and Drewbie when they are clearly better, and more well known than most of their North American players like Ryan, rsvp, Goswser etc, so I think that they actually want to leave themselves, so a Root reform might actually happen.


Not sure about Drewbie cause I havent heard or seen anything from him since he announced he was going to Korea but catz is definitely not better than Ryan or Goswer (havent seen anything from RSVP so cant speak there either =/). Plus I see Catz streaming Dota2 quite a bit so I'm assuming he's not as committed to Sc2 from a results perspective as a team like complexity would prefer him to be. Just an assumption tho
Dodge arrows
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
May 16 2012 01:21 GMT
#137
Odd, Drewbie I can understand but Catz? One of the most popular SC2 players out there, I'm pretty sure complexity would rather have kept them if possible, which leads me to believe they left of their own accord. Maybe return of ROOT gaming?
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
May 16 2012 01:28 GMT
#138
Perhaps you remember me, my name is ROOT
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337937


Here we go
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
May 16 2012 01:32 GMT
#139
YAYYYYYYYYYY ROOT IS BACK!
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 16 2012 01:38 GMT
#140
On May 16 2012 10:21 leperphilliac wrote:
Odd, Drewbie I can understand but Catz? One of the most popular SC2 players out there, I'm pretty sure complexity would rather have kept them if possible, which leads me to believe they left of their own accord. Maybe return of ROOT gaming?

Drewbie and Catz will never be split. Dat Bromance is too strong
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