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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 15 2012 22:38 GMT
#81
Yeah... I was a massive ROOT fan back in the day and I didn't instantly take a liking to Complexity when they acquired the team. However, over time Complexity has grown to be my favorite team in eSports and I feel like it's going to stay that way even if ROOT reforms(not that I won't root for ROOT if it happens).

I'm really glad Chad chose to extend his contract, I like rooting for him as a part of Complexity.

I've never really seen anything particularly impressive from or been particularly interested in Ryze, RSVP and Ryan though(who I've even seen play competitively), so no major response on that front. Good for him I suppose, Complexity seems to be showing a lot of patience with some of their older players.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:40:43
May 15 2012 22:40 GMT
#82
On May 16 2012 07:24 TheRealNanMan wrote:
Minigun will be remaining on the roaster!


Oh God, I hope not! Sounds very uncomfortable.

I'm very much looking forward to hearing what's next for those guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
REFLEX_500
Profile Joined February 2012
162 Posts
May 15 2012 22:41 GMT
#83
When I'm involved in the viewing of a sport like baseball, football or hokey, I see players leaving treams, being exchanged between team and such. We usually can figure out why. Many times it's because of talent or money. A team might want to spend less money, so they remove one of their team mates, or trade for someone who will cost less. Also, a team may be seeking a new line of talent. Such as the Yankees, maybe they should be looking for a new pitching staff (please do not comment on this. It's only a comparison and not meant for discussion)? A baseball team may look for new talent in other teams, see someone with the talent, or even "potential talent", and make an offer to his team.

When I see and esports player leave a team, I don't understand why. When Destiny left Quantic, he spoke of why briefly on his stream. It seemed like some very spiteful reasons from what I remember. When desRow and Scarlett left Eclypsia, one reason they left was because they didn't trust the team to send them to Korea after "shady thing" Eclypsia was doing. Now these players are without a team, and with very little leverage in their ability go to Korea. When people leave their employers without having spoken to another employer, you really do screw yourself. In the vlog desRow made about him and the other players leaving Eclypsia there was no mention of future plans. Unless there is some sort of plan to quickly join another team, this could really hurt them. It's hard enough to make it in the world, let alone the world of esports.

I will admit that I don't know the details of this trade of players. Did Catz have the option to stay on the team? "Unfortunately at this point in time, we part ways with new plans and different goals in mind for the near future."
This statement Catz makes says to me either, that he had the option to stay and refused, or he just being polite and professional. Is this Catz being fired, or is he leaving of his own volition?

-Tommy-
REFLEX_500
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
May 15 2012 22:42 GMT
#84
It only makes sense though. These two aren't posting any results, and complexity has a huge roster. Although, both are very good, and hope they geto n ateam soon.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
SACtheXchng
Profile Joined January 2011
168 Posts
May 15 2012 22:45 GMT
#85
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
May 15 2012 22:46 GMT
#86
Minigun has been playing the teamleagues, well catz has too, he beat demuslim. Hmm, oh well. Lik e/minigun, would be sad to see him leave.
esports
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:48:53
May 15 2012 22:48 GMT
#87
It's a shame to see Catz and drewbie leave, though I can't say I'm surprised honestly.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ritzia1
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada95 Posts
May 15 2012 22:48 GMT
#88
I just hope we don't see koreans replacing them not that I have anything against koreans, but it's nice to see a foreigner get picked up by a bigger team once in awhile.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
May 15 2012 22:51 GMT
#89
On May 16 2012 06:50 Galetmonster wrote:
ROOTCatZ
ROOTDrewbie
ROOTDestiny

MAKE IT HAPPEN PAULO <3


This, a thousand times. I would love to see them reform what used to be one of my very favorite teams, and build it with new talent. CatZ and Destiny are certain to attract sponsors (to a decent extent) and they can begin stepping into a team leader/mentor role while they acquire and build new talent. This would be amazing.
@nowSimon
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
May 15 2012 22:52 GMT
#90
at least minigun is staying on the team...
:-)
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
May 15 2012 22:54 GMT
#91
On May 16 2012 07:41 REFLEX_500 wrote:
When I'm involved in the viewing of a sport like baseball, football or hokey, I see players leaving treams, being exchanged between team and such. We usually can figure out why. Many times it's because of talent or money. A team might want to spend less money, so they remove one of their team mates, or trade for someone who will cost less. Also, a team may be seeking a new line of talent. Such as the Yankees, maybe they should be looking for a new pitching staff (please do not comment on this. It's only a comparison and not meant for discussion)? A baseball team may look for new talent in other teams, see someone with the talent, or even "potential talent", and make an offer to his team.

When I see and esports player leave a team, I don't understand why. When Destiny left Quantic, he spoke of why briefly on his stream. It seemed like some very spiteful reasons from what I remember. When desRow and Scarlett left Eclypsia, one reason they left was because they didn't trust the team to send them to Korea after "shady thing" Eclypsia was doing. Now these players are without a team, and with very little leverage in their ability go to Korea. When people leave their employers without having spoken to another employer, you really do screw yourself. In the vlog desRow made about him and the other players leaving Eclypsia there was no mention of future plans. Unless there is some sort of plan to quickly join another team, this could really hurt them. It's hard enough to make it in the world, let alone the world of esports.

I will admit that I don't know the details of this trade of players. Did Catz have the option to stay on the team? "Unfortunately at this point in time, we part ways with new plans and different goals in mind for the near future."
This statement Catz makes says to me either, that he had the option to stay and refused, or he just being polite and professional. Is this Catz being fired, or is he leaving of his own volition?

-Tommy-
REFLEX_500


You post in a funny but cool way. Kudos. We saw CatZ and drewbie make the move to Peru - for what reason is beyond my knowledge, maybe someone else can shed some light on this - a few weeks ago, which seemed to happen on their own behalf. This seems to be directly connected to them leaving coL so we can assume that they have different plans than don't blend well with coL's. Expect to see something soon (ROOT plz!).
@nowSimon
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
May 15 2012 22:55 GMT
#92
<3 Minigun. One of my favorite protoss players and a generally cool guy. Hope to see a lot of success out of him in the future.

Chad "Motherfucking" Jones fighting!
Herp Derp
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
May 15 2012 22:56 GMT
#93
Step 1: CatZ and Drewbie form ROOT.
Step 2: ROOT begins recruiting members and continues to grow.
Step 3: Complexity absorbs ROOT.
Step 4: CatZ and Drewbie leave Complexity while other former ROOT members stay.

=(

*single tear*
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
May 15 2012 22:56 GMT
#94
I want ROOT to come back, those were some of the best times of my SC2 life with the ROOT guys just being awesome.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
May 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#95
After all those "witch hunting" threads and the "puritans" teams, would be nice to see some insubordinate bad ass team
Chicken gank op
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 15 2012 23:05 GMT
#96
I think it's another case of wanting to go to korea, maybe
</speculation>
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 15 2012 23:05 GMT
#97
Back to their roots they go
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
May 15 2012 23:06 GMT
#98
Oh my god. I really hope we see the return of root!
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
May 15 2012 23:07 GMT
#99
ROOT was really awesome back in the day. Just a bunch of dudes living the life, pursuing their dreams and forging their own way with their own team. They were always underdogs, but they were good enough to win and it was great when they did.

But I can't see a place for ROOT in the current scene. If their core members were to re-form the team, I don't think they could come close to competing. The scene is so much bigger, and powerful international teams are more willing to send players far and wide to compete in live events.
OpticalPhonon
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada72 Posts
May 15 2012 23:08 GMT
#100
Oh Ryan Rushia. You so crazy.
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