This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
I believe the focus of our mockery would be on the combination of "0 RTS experience", "masters from day one" and "not talented at all." Those three things are mutually exclusive: By definition, you're pretty damn talented if you are better than 98% of all active players despite having no experience.
Also, Snowbear was a D+ BW player when he started playing SC2, and made "masters on day 1" by having played since the beta:
On April 27 2012 06:43 Snowbear wrote: I played BW for 3 months (D+), then I switched to sc2 (beta that time), and I was in the highest league (it was diamond that time, since there was not a master league yet). Since the game was new for everyone back then, and since everyone improved alot, I would say that a solid D+ BW player will start ezpz in diamond (and let's say 1 week to get into masters).
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
I believe the focus of our mockery would be on the combination of "0 RTS experience", "masters from day one" and "not talented at all." Those three things are mutually exclusive: By definition, you're pretty damn talented if you are better than 98% of all active players despite having no experience.
Also, Snowbear was a D+ BW player when he started playing SC2, and made "masters on day 1" by having played since the beta:
On April 27 2012 06:43 Snowbear wrote: I played BW for 3 months (D+), then I switched to sc2 (beta that time), and I was in the highest league (it was diamond that time, since there was not a master league yet). Since the game was new for everyone back then, and since everyone improved alot, I would say that a solid D+ BW player will start ezpz in diamond (and let's say 1 week to get into masters).
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
I believe the focus of our mockery would be on the combination of "0 RTS experience", "masters from day one" and "not talented at all." Those three things are mutually exclusive: By definition, you're pretty damn talented if you are better than 98% of all active players despite having no experience.
Also, Snowbear was a D+ BW player when he started playing SC2, and made "masters on day 1" by having played since the beta:
On April 27 2012 06:43 Snowbear wrote: I played BW for 3 months (D+), then I switched to sc2 (beta that time), and I was in the highest league (it was diamond that time, since there was not a master league yet). Since the game was new for everyone back then, and since everyone improved alot, I would say that a solid D+ BW player will start ezpz in diamond (and let's say 1 week to get into masters).
Is 3 months of BW with 5 games a week RTS experience? If you compare that to flash it's not. I was D+ as a TvP player, I never played TvZ and TvT. If you count that as RTS expierience, then I was wrong, sorry. Let me change my statement:
With 3 months of RTS experience, I was placed in the highest league in the beta (diamond, there was no masters, I got into masters when blizzard made it available) since day 1. I agree that beta times were much easier, so maybe I wouldn't do the same if I started with sc2 today. I don't see a reason to lie about this, sorry.
And I am not talented at all, since I never made it to grandmaster. I am a high master terran, that will never win a decent tournament.
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
I believe the focus of our mockery would be on the combination of "0 RTS experience", "masters from day one" and "not talented at all." Those three things are mutually exclusive: By definition, you're pretty damn talented if you are better than 98% of all active players despite having no experience.
Also, Snowbear was a D+ BW player when he started playing SC2, and made "masters on day 1" by having played since the beta:
On April 27 2012 06:43 Snowbear wrote: I played BW for 3 months (D+), then I switched to sc2 (beta that time), and I was in the highest league (it was diamond that time, since there was not a master league yet). Since the game was new for everyone back then, and since everyone improved alot, I would say that a solid D+ BW player will start ezpz in diamond (and let's say 1 week to get into masters).
Is 3 months of BW with 5 games a week RTS experience? If you compare that to flash it's not. I was D+ as a TvP player, I never played TvZ and TvT. If you count that as RTS expierience, then I was wrong, sorry. Let me change my statement:
With 3 months of RTS experience, I was placed in the highest league in the beta (diamond, there was no masters, I got into masters when blizzard made it available) since day 1. I agree that beta times were much easier, so maybe I wouldn't do the same if I started with sc2 today. I don't see a reason to lie about this, sorry.
And I am not talented at all, since I never made it to grandmaster. I am a high master terran, that will never win a decent tournament.
Lol, the beta was 2 years ago, all people sucks that time
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
He's full of crap. If he started playing during game release when nobody knew strategy, he's lying because there was no master league. If he started after master league started, he would have already been behind in strategy, no matter how good his mechanics, UNLESS, the first thing he learned was one of those early game very effective cheeses that's been nerfed, and even then it doesn't make him master's material.
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
He's full of crap. If he started playing during game release when nobody knew strategy, he's lying because there was no master league. If he started after master league started, he would have already been behind in strategy, no matter how good his mechanics, UNLESS, the first thing he learned was one of those early game very effective cheeses that's been nerfed, and even then it doesn't make him master's material.
Read my second post. This thread if not about me, it's about flash.
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
That's not how you quote. There is a quote function on the TL forum software for a reason. This isn't your garbage can 4chan.
On May 16 2012 23:35 Killmouse wrote: i was D+/C- in my bw time and my first league was diamond(season 3) and it took me about 300-400 games more to get in to master
Well, and something that looks that everyone is forgetting here , is the fact that everyoneelse was learning as u did at the same time. Right now the metagame and the timings are much more studied and its harder to catch up now , than to get really good really fast at the start.
On May 16 2012 23:55 Fragile51 wrote: I don't get why everyone is hung up on personal anecdotes with no context or proof or anything. What the fuck does that even prove?
It proves One is a TOTAL BAD-ASS !!!!!! Seriously though .... ?
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
I believe the focus of our mockery would be on the combination of "0 RTS experience", "masters from day one" and "not talented at all." Those three things are mutually exclusive: By definition, you're pretty damn talented if you are better than 98% of all active players despite having no experience.
Also, Snowbear was a D+ BW player when he started playing SC2, and made "masters on day 1" by having played since the beta:
On April 27 2012 06:43 Snowbear wrote: I played BW for 3 months (D+), then I switched to sc2 (beta that time), and I was in the highest league (it was diamond that time, since there was not a master league yet). Since the game was new for everyone back then, and since everyone improved alot, I would say that a solid D+ BW player will start ezpz in diamond (and let's say 1 week to get into masters).
Is 3 months of BW with 5 games a week RTS experience? If you compare that to flash it's not. I was D+ as a TvP player, I never played TvZ and TvT. If you count that as RTS expierience, then I was wrong, sorry. Let me change my statement:
With 3 months of RTS experience, I was placed in the highest league in the beta (diamond, there was no masters, I got into masters when blizzard made it available) since day 1. I agree that beta times were much easier, so maybe I wouldn't do the same if I started with sc2 today. I don't see a reason to lie about this, sorry.
And I am not talented at all, since I never made it to grandmaster. I am a high master terran, that will never win a decent tournament.
lul are you people seriously comparing this guy to flash?
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
What is so hard to understand about what I wrote? Or is there something wrong with it? I just wanted to make the point that making it into master in a few days is not special...
its not hard to understand but about how believable it is. You were flat out lying, there seriously is no way around this. Nobody has the mental capacity to know all the key strokes, mechanics of the game, how the game is supposed to be played and all that within 1 day. Let alone get into Masters in a day.
I can understand ex-broodwar players getting into masters in 1 day due to similiarites but no-rts experience.... yea right.
Well he might have exaggerated this a bit (certainly considering no-one can be seeded in masters, Diamond is the best league you can reach after your placement matches on a new account) but there really is nothing "unbelievable" about someone with no RTS knowledge making it into Masters within the first month. Just as much as you should never underestimate human stupidity, you shouldn't underestimate it's capacities either. Some people can just be gifted at something and with the right set of mind understand all the mechanics of the game pretty easily.
I sense some kind of jealousy in your post .... like "I can't do it therefore you can't (otherwise it would mean I'm not as good as you which would make sense since I don't know you but HELLLL we're on the internet, I'm just as good as anyone)" AHHH ego ... what a funny thing :D
I believe the focus of our mockery would be on the combination of "0 RTS experience", "masters from day one" and "not talented at all." Those three things are mutually exclusive: By definition, you're pretty damn talented if you are better than 98% of all active players despite having no experience.
Also, Snowbear was a D+ BW player when he started playing SC2, and made "masters on day 1" by having played since the beta:
On April 27 2012 06:43 Snowbear wrote: I played BW for 3 months (D+), then I switched to sc2 (beta that time), and I was in the highest league (it was diamond that time, since there was not a master league yet). Since the game was new for everyone back then, and since everyone improved alot, I would say that a solid D+ BW player will start ezpz in diamond (and let's say 1 week to get into masters).
Is 3 months of BW with 5 games a week RTS experience? If you compare that to flash it's not. I was D+ as a TvP player, I never played TvZ and TvT. If you count that as RTS expierience, then I was wrong, sorry. Let me change my statement:
With 3 months of RTS experience, I was placed in the highest league in the beta (diamond, there was no masters, I got into masters when blizzard made it available) since day 1. I agree that beta times were much easier, so maybe I wouldn't do the same if I started with sc2 today. I don't see a reason to lie about this, sorry.
And I am not talented at all, since I never made it to grandmaster. I am a high master terran, that will never win a decent tournament.
Lol, the beta was 2 years ago, all people sucks that time
Also, platinum was highest rank in beta for a while
It's not impressive that Flash got in to masters . It's impressive that he has mastered the mechanics of the game and some of the build orders to such a high level at such a short time , not that i expect anything less from even a low level A -teamer . Look at his perceptual ability in the FPVOD it's as good as a pro , better then most of the foreigners , especially the terran players . Experience in BW and hard work made him advance so fast , but he will need some time to grasp the strategy , game sense , and find and accommodate his style at the top in SC2 .
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
That's not how you quote. There is a quote function on the TL forum software for a reason. This isn't your garbage can 4chan.
lmao "your garbage".
First of all if you know about > it means that you go there, second > is not used for quoting but for highlighting something, third its more practical.
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
That's not how you quote. There is a quote function on the TL forum software for a reason. This isn't your garbage can 4chan.
lmao "your garbage".
First of all if you know about > it means that you go there, second > is not used for quoting but for highlighting something, third its more practical.
Deal with it.
Just because some of us (likely most of us) have lurked at teh asshole of the internet does not mean that we approve of 4chan.. it is the largest forum in the world and all.. but still called the asshole of the internet for a reason -.-. Go hang out at /v/ if you want to do that shit.
This is not the special thing that flash is doing. I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it. I am not talented at all.
What is special is that flash is getting so close to grandmaster in such a short period of time, IMO.
>I had 0 RTS experience, and I made it into masters from day 1, and never dropped out of it
wtf am i reading
That's not how you quote. There is a quote function on the TL forum software for a reason. This isn't your garbage can 4chan.
lmao "your garbage".
First of all if you know about > it means that you go there, second > is not used for quoting but for highlighting something, third its more practical.
Deal with it.
Just because some of us (likely most of us) have lurked at teh asshole of the internet does not mean that we approve of 4chan.. it is the largest forum in the world and all.. but still called the asshole of the internet for a reason -.-. Go hang out at /v/ if you want to do that shit.
What? Are you people seriously foaming at the mouth just because i used > merely because i didnt want to quote a quote? I bet you guys are super elitist about /v/ or whatever while having reddit tabs (or something worse) open.
I agree, I don't get what's wrong with using > or "" for quotes (the quote function takes a lot of space and if you want to quote a single thing, it doesn't matter).
Anyway what I'm excited about this week is that SC2 players can experience BW (*what games are like when there is no such thing as a "ball of death" or "only one good engagement wins the game" or "only one bad engagement loses the game"): Flash's BW game yesterday (he didn't play as well due to split focus but still good):
Will Fantasy be the next (SC2) Zerg bonjwa?
*I am only pointing out these issues because IMO, SC2 could be much better if they somehow make games less only big one engagement or reduce some of the ball of deathness.
EPT
