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Keylime
Profile Joined July 2011
United States33 Posts
May 11 2012 03:36 GMT
#1221
I see what you did their blizz... making me hate this game more so I go and buy Diablo 3.....
Queen buff is unneeded, I feel like now zergs will be able to creep spread and defend the tumors even against 4 helion openings...
Sigh.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:39:58
May 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#1222
On May 11 2012 12:03 luuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:00 -Exalt- wrote:
On May 11 2012 10:53 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On May 11 2012 10:50 VTPerfect wrote:
pvz even worse now ;(



how is it worse?
the patch does not even affect pvz...


cause,

you want to 4 gate pressure after ffe? he'll scout that a lot easier now.

you want to scout his main base for gas too see if he's all ining you? nope queen range

thats why

this overlord change really wasnt made for zvp scouting. you get the information if you want in zvp, but not in zvt


yeah, it's cute that Protoss players seem to think most Zergs don't know exactly what they're doing every step of the way, because typically, we do. So don't worry guys, your 2 base all-ins are still perfectly effective regardless of whether or not they are scouted.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:40:22
May 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#1223
On May 11 2012 10:50 VTPerfect wrote:
pvz even worse now ;(


You realize pvz is favoring protoss right now right? It has been that way for the past 3 months at least? lol
When I think of something else, something will go here
tomrh3
Profile Joined August 2011
12 Posts
May 11 2012 03:45 GMT
#1224
On May 11 2012 12:12 sCCrooked wrote:
ITT:

-Whiney inadequate Terrans who are so bad they can't tell this isn't a major adjustment
-Whiney inadequate Protoss who think this somehow affects their matchup vs Z at all.

Seriously this is pathetic. Its not that major of a change or else we'd have seen tons of examples of proof already from the top players who are the only ones who know enough to be qualified to talk about balance.


I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
May 11 2012 03:46 GMT
#1225
Someone teach me how to play zvp right now =(. 3 base roach is no longer a thing against good players with some good forcefields and a handful of immortals.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
May 11 2012 03:46 GMT
#1226
On May 11 2012 12:36 Keylime wrote:
I see what you did their blizz... making me hate this game more so I go and buy Diablo 3.....
Queen buff is unneeded, I feel like now zergs will be able to creep spread and defend the tumors even against 4 helion openings...
Sigh.


Queen DPS is still garbage. Hellions can still kill tumours, they'll now take damage though. It's not insta-death.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:49:18
May 11 2012 03:47 GMT
#1227
On May 11 2012 12:39 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 10:50 VTPerfect wrote:
pvz even worse now ;(


You realize pvz is favoring protoss right now right? It has been that way for the past 3 months at least? lol


yeah. the ladder stats were very recently released and i think pvz was several percentage points above 50% across all regions save 1. zergs have also obviously been suffering in gsl, too, while only slightly better in other tournaments. have to hold gsl in the highest regard given they're the most refined players, though. ==
xUnSeEnx
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:53:26
May 11 2012 03:51 GMT
#1228
I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players)

Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game.
"All your base are belong to us."
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
May 11 2012 03:54 GMT
#1229
On May 11 2012 12:51 xUnSeEnx wrote:
I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players)

Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game.


Post your B.Net profile so we can check?
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
May 11 2012 03:56 GMT
#1230
On May 11 2012 12:45 tomrh3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:12 sCCrooked wrote:
ITT:

-Whiney inadequate Terrans who are so bad they can't tell this isn't a major adjustment
-Whiney inadequate Protoss who think this somehow affects their matchup vs Z at all.

Seriously this is pathetic. Its not that major of a change or else we'd have seen tons of examples of proof already from the top players who are the only ones who know enough to be qualified to talk about balance.


I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less.


Imagine if you were being carried by your OP race to begin with and as they nerf them down to balanced levels, you come to realize that you actually suck at the game, much like people have been telling you all along.

You are, in fact, undeserving of the former rank you had.

QQ more. Playing an OP race does not entitle you to continue being OP for eternity.
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:59:21
May 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#1231
On May 11 2012 12:51 xUnSeEnx wrote:
I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players)

Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game.


Because it was too easy for terran to win in the good old days?
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 04:01:57
May 11 2012 04:00 GMT
#1232
On May 11 2012 12:45 tomrh3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:12 sCCrooked wrote:
ITT:

-Whiney inadequate Terrans who are so bad they can't tell this isn't a major adjustment
-Whiney inadequate Protoss who think this somehow affects their matchup vs Z at all.

Seriously this is pathetic. Its not that major of a change or else we'd have seen tons of examples of proof already from the top players who are the only ones who know enough to be qualified to talk about balance.


I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less.

I think you don't understand how the ladder works, and what it means for the system to push you towards a 50% win rate. The changes will have an impact at the highest levels where the timings matter quite a lot, for the rest of us there's a million other reasons why we win/lose about half our games.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
May 11 2012 04:00 GMT
#1233
pvp dt rush is actually stronger cause tosses that get 1 obs before start immortal against dt rush, their obs will be 10s farther across the map when 1st dt comes :D
get rich or die mining
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CapnAmerica
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States508 Posts
May 11 2012 04:02 GMT
#1234
On May 11 2012 13:00 Alejandrisha wrote:
pvp dt rush is actually stronger cause tosses that get 1 obs before start immortal against dt rush, their obs will be 10s farther across the map when 1st dt comes :D


I take this as more proof that Protoss players are evil, even their buffs are turned against them.
After all this time, I still haven't figured out the correlation between sexual orientation and beating an unprepared opponent. Are homosexuals the next koreans? Many players seem to think it's an unfair advantage. - pandaburn
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
May 11 2012 04:02 GMT
#1235
On May 11 2012 13:00 Alejandrisha wrote:
pvp dt rush is actually stronger cause tosses that get 1 obs before start immortal against dt rush, their obs will be 10s farther across the map when 1st dt comes :D

lol
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
Keylime
Profile Joined July 2011
United States33 Posts
May 11 2012 04:05 GMT
#1236
On May 11 2012 12:56 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:45 tomrh3 wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:12 sCCrooked wrote:
ITT:

-Whiney inadequate Terrans who are so bad they can't tell this isn't a major adjustment
-Whiney inadequate Protoss who think this somehow affects their matchup vs Z at all.

Seriously this is pathetic. Its not that major of a change or else we'd have seen tons of examples of proof already from the top players who are the only ones who know enough to be qualified to talk about balance.


I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less.


Imagine if you were being carried by your OP race to begin with and as they nerf them down to balanced levels, you come to realize that you actually suck at the game, much like people have been telling you all along.

You are, in fact, undeserving of the former rank you had.

QQ more. Playing an OP race does not entitle you to continue being OP for eternity.


As a masters Terran / Toss player whose played since release (and now a high diam Zerg), i can confirm that your stereotype and assumption is completely wrong, and stupid. While in the old days, maybe a year ago for a big period of time, Terran could be rightfully called OP, now, unless you are a top tier player, playing as a terran is just getting harder and harder. Seeing as Blizzard has admitted that terrans "need to be aggressive and harass" to win games that go late, it's funny that they make this aggression harder and harder to pull off, while leaving the late game the same. As I play both races (terran more), I've noticed that through the patches and nerfs, my level as a terran player is dropping, while my Toss gradually increases. I'm not going to claim that Terran is underpowered, or that the other races are overpowered, but your assumption is retarded, and the game is infact getting harder for Terran players, who haven't been OP for some while.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BlueKatz
Profile Joined March 2012
68 Posts
May 11 2012 04:06 GMT
#1237
I like the Queen change, really hate cheap Terran on big Map go Hellion into 3rd base into Mech while deny Zerg Third for very long
Interestingly new Queen attack get blocked by PDD, I guess they won't change much though.
Quotes are useless
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
May 11 2012 04:11 GMT
#1238
On May 11 2012 12:56 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:45 tomrh3 wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:12 sCCrooked wrote:
ITT:

-Whiney inadequate Terrans who are so bad they can't tell this isn't a major adjustment
-Whiney inadequate Protoss who think this somehow affects their matchup vs Z at all.

Seriously this is pathetic. Its not that major of a change or else we'd have seen tons of examples of proof already from the top players who are the only ones who know enough to be qualified to talk about balance.


I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less.


Imagine if you were being carried by your OP race to begin with and as they nerf them down to balanced levels, you come to realize that you actually suck at the game, much like people have been telling you all along.

You are, in fact, undeserving of the former rank you had.

QQ more. Playing an OP race does not entitle you to continue being OP for eternity.

Do you have any proof of this? Unless you do, I am saying that you are bashing him for no reason other than being annoyed.

Honestly, it was not like the maps weren't small in the release and had hard to take thirds anyway that had effected it. Furthermore, it is not like people were even using their races macro mechanics (well maybe not for terran, because terrans macro mechanics isn't the most complicated one to use nor it is challenging either) to the fullest. I still remember how some players thought creep spread being useless. Even on moderately big maps like Lost Temple.
C=('. ' Q)
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
May 11 2012 04:13 GMT
#1239
On May 11 2012 12:51 xUnSeEnx wrote:
I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players)

Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game.


oh.... my....~

I would assume you are trolling, but your icon is terran so I don't think its a troll.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 11 2012 04:30 GMT
#1240
Just played with mass queen opening. They have good range but still do incredible low DPS LOL.
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