EPTQueen buff is unneeded, I feel like now zergs will be able to creep spread and defend the tumors even against 4 helion openings...
Sigh.
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Keylime
United States33 Posts
Queen buff is unneeded, I feel like now zergs will be able to creep spread and defend the tumors even against 4 helion openings... Sigh. | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:03 luuk wrote: this overlord change really wasnt made for zvp scouting. you get the information if you want in zvp, but not in zvt yeah, it's cute that Protoss players seem to think most Zergs don't know exactly what they're doing every step of the way, because typically, we do. So don't worry guys, your 2 base all-ins are still perfectly effective regardless of whether or not they are scouted. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2012 10:50 VTPerfect wrote: pvz even worse now ;( You realize pvz is favoring protoss right now right? It has been that way for the past 3 months at least? lol | ||
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tomrh3
12 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:12 sCCrooked wrote: ITT: -Whiney inadequate Terrans who are so bad they can't tell this isn't a major adjustment -Whiney inadequate Protoss who think this somehow affects their matchup vs Z at all. Seriously this is pathetic. Its not that major of a change or else we'd have seen tons of examples of proof already from the top players who are the only ones who know enough to be qualified to talk about balance. I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less. | ||
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zJayy962
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:36 Keylime wrote: I see what you did their blizz... making me hate this game more so I go and buy Diablo 3..... Queen buff is unneeded, I feel like now zergs will be able to creep spread and defend the tumors even against 4 helion openings... Sigh. Queen DPS is still garbage. Hellions can still kill tumours, they'll now take damage though. It's not insta-death. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3131 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:39 blade55555 wrote: You realize pvz is favoring protoss right now right? It has been that way for the past 3 months at least? lol yeah. the ladder stats were very recently released and i think pvz was several percentage points above 50% across all regions save 1. zergs have also obviously been suffering in gsl, too, while only slightly better in other tournaments. have to hold gsl in the highest regard given they're the most refined players, though. == | ||
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xUnSeEnx
United States183 Posts
Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game. | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:51 xUnSeEnx wrote: I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players) Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game. Post your B.Net profile so we can check? | ||
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Jermstuddog
United States2231 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:45 tomrh3 wrote: I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less. Imagine if you were being carried by your OP race to begin with and as they nerf them down to balanced levels, you come to realize that you actually suck at the game, much like people have been telling you all along. You are, in fact, undeserving of the former rank you had. QQ more. Playing an OP race does not entitle you to continue being OP for eternity. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:51 xUnSeEnx wrote: I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players) Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game. Because it was too easy for terran to win in the good old days? | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:45 tomrh3 wrote: I can talk about balance all I want - my play has decreased dramatically over past 7 month or so as terrans continue to get nerfed every patch. Imagine having a 50% winrate, whatever your skill level, then having your race get nerfed every single patch so that the game gets much harder for you and you just lose and lose. It really isn't much fun, and I think it's obvious when you see the huge dropoff in the amount of terrans on the ladder. These minor adjustments will affect the different leagues in different ways... if MVP still crushes soul I could care less. I think you don't understand how the ladder works, and what it means for the system to push you towards a 50% win rate. The changes will have an impact at the highest levels where the timings matter quite a lot, for the rest of us there's a million other reasons why we win/lose about half our games. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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CapnAmerica
United States508 Posts
On May 11 2012 13:00 Alejandrisha wrote: pvp dt rush is actually stronger cause tosses that get 1 obs before start immortal against dt rush, their obs will be 10s farther across the map when 1st dt comes :D I take this as more proof that Protoss players are evil, even their buffs are turned against them.  | ||
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On May 11 2012 13:00 Alejandrisha wrote: pvp dt rush is actually stronger cause tosses that get 1 obs before start immortal against dt rush, their obs will be 10s farther across the map when 1st dt comes :D lol | ||
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Keylime
United States33 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:56 Jermstuddog wrote: Imagine if you were being carried by your OP race to begin with and as they nerf them down to balanced levels, you come to realize that you actually suck at the game, much like people have been telling you all along. You are, in fact, undeserving of the former rank you had. QQ more. Playing an OP race does not entitle you to continue being OP for eternity. As a masters Terran / Toss player whose played since release (and now a high diam Zerg), i can confirm that your stereotype and assumption is completely wrong, and stupid. While in the old days, maybe a year ago for a big period of time, Terran could be rightfully called OP, now, unless you are a top tier player, playing as a terran is just getting harder and harder. Seeing as Blizzard has admitted that terrans "need to be aggressive and harass" to win games that go late, it's funny that they make this aggression harder and harder to pull off, while leaving the late game the same. As I play both races (terran more), I've noticed that through the patches and nerfs, my level as a terran player is dropping, while my Toss gradually increases. I'm not going to claim that Terran is underpowered, or that the other races are overpowered, but your assumption is retarded, and the game is infact getting harder for Terran players, who haven't been OP for some while. | ||
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BlueKatz
68 Posts
Interestingly new Queen attack get blocked by PDD, I guess they won't change much though. | ||
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Mehukannu
Finland421 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:56 Jermstuddog wrote: Imagine if you were being carried by your OP race to begin with and as they nerf them down to balanced levels, you come to realize that you actually suck at the game, much like people have been telling you all along. You are, in fact, undeserving of the former rank you had. QQ more. Playing an OP race does not entitle you to continue being OP for eternity. Do you have any proof of this? Unless you do, I am saying that you are bashing him for no reason other than being annoyed. Honestly, it was not like the maps weren't small in the release and had hard to take thirds anyway that had effected it. Furthermore, it is not like people were even using their races macro mechanics (well maybe not for terran, because terrans macro mechanics isn't the most complicated one to use nor it is challenging either) to the fullest. I still remember how some players thought creep spread being useless. Even on moderately big maps like Lost Temple. | ||
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bakedace
United States672 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:51 xUnSeEnx wrote: I will not play sc2 anymore until Dustin Browder is fired... He is truly ruining this game. (AKA unnecessary buffs, protoss is op now, and this game is getting harder and harder for terran players) Well non-Terran races have fun not changing your style of play ever in any patch. Terrans back to the drawing board, gotta come up with something not all-in ish and aggressive or gg every game. oh.... my....~ I would assume you are trolling, but your icon is terran so I don't think its a troll. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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