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On May 04 2012 08:10 Arkani wrote:really like the changes, but the queen energy thing is pretty stupid i think. all i see is blizz overshooting to get terran react to it in creating ravens, they tried hard to get players to build it, that somehow looks like a passive try to me but maybe im overthinking that point a bit  really like and hope that the ovie speed stays
If Blizzard wants to encounrage Terran to build Ravens how about giving it a small buff ? If Ravens had any good use outside of PDD ( which you don't need if you play Bio vs Zerg ) people would build it more. Its basically a more expensive slower Overseer with less HP if you play Bio.
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On May 04 2012 08:57 mTwTT1 wrote:Poll: Should TT1 balance SC2?No (35) 56% Yes (28) 44% 63 total votes Your vote: Should TT1 balance SC2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Lets all just make our own patches and we can all play on perfect balance
About the ops proposals, the overlord change is the only one that makes sense. Ever since I heard blizzard admit Zerg scouting is too hard before lair I thought about ove speed buff xd
Not that anyone cares but in my patch I'd remove mothership and increase brood lord food cost
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im taking over the world in 2013
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Good thing there won't be a world left by then.
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On May 04 2012 08:58 zezamer wrote:
No, Idra should.
Bitch please...
No, CombatEX Orb should
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On May 04 2012 09:04 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 08:57 mTwTT1 wrote:Poll: Should TT1 balance SC2?No (35) 56% Yes (28) 44% 63 total votes Your vote: Should TT1 balance SC2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Lets all just make our own patches and we can all play on perfect balance About the ops proposals, the overlord change is the only one that makes sense. Ever since I heard blizzard admit Zerg scouting is too hard before lair I thought about ove speed buff xd Not that anyone cares but in my patch I'd remove mothership and increase brood lord food cost
What about reapers? Anything for your first love???
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Umm correct me if I'm blind but why can't zerg send a drone just like the other two races? Is an overlord speed increase warranted, since it makes catching early overlords with ranged units that much harder? If it's later scouting, get overseer... this coincides with about the same time Protoss gets obs so again, why increase ol speed?
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On May 04 2012 09:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
im taking over the world in 2013
I didn't vote for that...
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On May 04 2012 09:13 aksfjh wrote:I didn't vote for that...
baby steps, ill take over blizzard 1st and well see happens afterwards
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On May 04 2012 09:11 tehemperorer wrote:
Umm correct me if I'm blind but why can't zerg send a drone just like the other two races? Is an overlord speed increase warranted, since it makes catching early overlords with ranged units that much harder? If it's later scouting, get overseer... this coincides with about the same time Protoss gets obs so again, why increase ol speed?
terran can lift a depot to prevent a drone scout. toss usually has a zealot and sentry blocking the ramp to prevent scouting if there doing 1 base play and if there FFEing then u wont really scout anything useful other then the fact that they are FFEing. and by the time comes that they are doing something fishy a cannon will be up to prevent any more drone scouting.
toss and terran on the other hand can just send a probe/scv to the zerg base and see w/e they want to see.
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On May 04 2012 09:11 tehemperorer wrote:
Umm correct me if I'm blind but why can't zerg send a drone just like the other two races? Is an overlord speed increase warranted, since it makes catching early overlords with ranged units that much harder? If it's later scouting, get overseer... this coincides with about the same time Protoss gets obs so again, why increase ol speed?
The buff is for scouting later stuff but before lair. Like dts banshees any 1 base build where ovies can easily be blocked by a few marines/stalkers
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On May 04 2012 09:16 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 09:11 tehemperorer wrote:
Umm correct me if I'm blind but why can't zerg send a drone just like the other two races? Is an overlord speed increase warranted, since it makes catching early overlords with ranged units that much harder? If it's later scouting, get overseer... this coincides with about the same time Protoss gets obs so again, why increase ol speed? terran can lift a depot to prevent a drone scout. toss usually has a zealot and sentry blocking the ramp to prevent scouting if there doing 1 base play and if there FFEing then u wont really scout anything useful other then the fact that they are FFEing. and by the time comes that they are doing something fishy a cannon will be up to prevent any more drone scouting. toss and terran on the other hand can just send a probe/scv to the zerg base and see w/e they want to see.
Zerg has a ling to deny the scout.
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how protoss scout terran when they wall off 2! even worse build 3rd hidden cc too! go observer go!
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On May 04 2012 09:11 tehemperorer wrote:
Umm correct me if I'm blind but why can't zerg send a drone just like the other two races? Is an overlord speed increase warranted, since it makes catching early overlords with ranged units that much harder? If it's later scouting, get overseer... this coincides with about the same time Protoss gets obs so again, why increase ol speed?
Because in ZvT and ZvP Terran and Protoss block their ramp so the zerg player can't get scouting information. There is only so much you can guess when the only information you get is 1 Rax 1 Marine 2 Depot or 1 Gateway 1 Cybernetics Core/Forge 1 Zealot 1 Pylon. The Zerg will sac an Overlord to see what tech path their opponent is going. If the Overlord dies before it sees anything then the Zerg player is in the dark and has to blind counter whatever is being hidden. Also you don't "catch" an overlord, like in the same way you don't really catch a turtle or a slug, you just pick it off.
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On May 04 2012 09:15 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 09:13 aksfjh wrote:On May 04 2012 09:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
im taking over the world in 2013 I didn't vote for that... baby steps, ill take over blizzard 1st and well see happens afterwards
How many gateways you think that will take you?
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On May 04 2012 09:26 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 09:15 mTwTT1 wrote:On May 04 2012 09:13 aksfjh wrote:On May 04 2012 09:05 mTwTT1 wrote:
im taking over the world in 2013 I didn't vote for that... baby steps, ill take over blizzard 1st and well see happens afterwards How many gateways you think that will take you?
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On May 04 2012 09:08 canikizu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 09:04 MorroW wrote:On May 04 2012 08:57 mTwTT1 wrote:Poll: Should TT1 balance SC2?No (35) 56% Yes (28) 44% 63 total votes Your vote: Should TT1 balance SC2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Lets all just make our own patches and we can all play on perfect balance About the ops proposals, the overlord change is the only one that makes sense. Ever since I heard blizzard admit Zerg scouting is too hard before lair I thought about ove speed buff xd Not that anyone cares but in my patch I'd remove mothership and increase brood lord food cost What about reapers? Anything for your first love???
I don't really like units, I just play whatever I feel is best or has the highest potential. Reaper build was juse straight up broken if played correctly xd
For all I care they can remove the unit because it's almost only used for gimmicky reasons these days :d it's just another side unit Terran has that they never needed. I wish they would give Zerg more useless stuff that's fun to play around with ^^
Tt1 if u were on the balance crew I'd change to toss so fast xD
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On May 04 2012 09:19 Snowbear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 09:16 Ballistixz wrote:On May 04 2012 09:11 tehemperorer wrote:
Umm correct me if I'm blind but why can't zerg send a drone just like the other two races? Is an overlord speed increase warranted, since it makes catching early overlords with ranged units that much harder? If it's later scouting, get overseer... this coincides with about the same time Protoss gets obs so again, why increase ol speed? terran can lift a depot to prevent a drone scout. toss usually has a zealot and sentry blocking the ramp to prevent scouting if there doing 1 base play and if there FFEing then u wont really scout anything useful other then the fact that they are FFEing. and by the time comes that they are doing something fishy a cannon will be up to prevent any more drone scouting. toss and terran on the other hand can just send a probe/scv to the zerg base and see w/e they want to see. Zerg has a ling to deny the scout.
even if u do deny the scv/probe scout terran has scan and toss have observers. both of which are infinitly better then a slow overlord that can die while scouting on top of it losing supply when it dies.
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This 50 energy queen thing is ridiculous, lol. Spread creep WAYYY too fast :/
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I reckon blizzard should have a lengthy chat with the top 5 pro players from each respective races and talk about balance, current metagame and ideas to improve the gameplay instead of trying to do it by themselves (and gathering data from casuals). I dont see any shame in that.
Plus if they are promoting esports while balacing the game around casuals.. well you just cant have the best of both worlds.
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