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Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#241
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#242
On April 30 2012 03:48 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


It's hard to respect him if he doesn't do amazing due to the "elephant in the room" thread.


Yeah, because Flash personally posted on that thread. God, how bad TL has become.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
April 29 2012 18:53 GMT
#243
So is the Brood war scene gone as a total ?
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
April 29 2012 19:04 GMT
#244
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
April 29 2012 19:07 GMT
#245
I cannot wait to see him play sc2 in some tournament! gogo flash! <3
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#246
Well, I do hope Flash will be at top of SC2, because if he doesn't I feel a lot of BW fans will have their confirmation that sc2 has a lower skill ceiling and is inherently an inferior game to bw, which will only hurt the chances of bw fanbase accepting sc2
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 29 2012 19:14 GMT
#247
On April 30 2012 04:04 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.

8 times, or so they said on MBC channel.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:19:23
April 29 2012 19:15 GMT
#248
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


I pretty sure he said in an interview that he told his parents he's going to give progaming a try, but if he doesn't get drafted after a month, he's going to quit.


@K3Nyy

He played it casually with friends in a PCBang. That's not even as serious as playing on iCCup. And I meant good by progamer standards. He was not on the A team of P&C (his first team), he showed potential, but was definitely not good in progamer terms.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
April 29 2012 19:16 GMT
#249
On April 30 2012 04:14 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:04 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.

8 times, or so they said on MBC channel.


LOL wow, sorry my mistake. ><"
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
April 29 2012 19:19 GMT
#250
Imagine the godlike marine splitting ... ooohhh my god I can't wait.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
April 29 2012 19:20 GMT
#251
On April 30 2012 04:15 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


I pretty sure he said in an interview that he told his parents he's going to give progaming a try, but if he doesn't get drafted after a month, he's going to quit.


@K3Nyy

He played it casually with friends in a PCBang. That's not even as serious as playing on iCCup. And I meant good by progamer standards. He was not on the A team of P&C (his first team), he showed potential, but was definitely not good in progamer terms.


i think what he said was if he didn't win an OSL within the first year of going pro he'd quit
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 29 2012 19:20 GMT
#252
On April 30 2012 04:04 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.

Flash didn't win Courage on his first try.

Jangbi for one beat him.

Q: You will meet (T)Flash in the Round of 8.
A: (T)Flash is a player that after his debut, has been continuing to put out consistent results. He has received attention ever since he was a practice partner and has been reigning as the best player for over 5 years. But as for me, I have a positive momentum following me. I have an experience where I defeated Flash in the 2005 Courage Tournament finals and acquired qualification to become a semi-progamer.

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Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 29 2012 19:22 GMT
#253
On April 30 2012 04:04 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.


My bad. You are correct. You are also correct about him not only practising a month. Or well, it depends on what one means by practise. It took him one month after he decided he'd try to go pro to obtain the license. But he had played the game before that decision. And yes, I entirely agree. Winning Courage like that is most likely harder than getting into Code S. After all I don't think anyone else has done that but Flash.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
April 29 2012 19:22 GMT
#254
On April 30 2012 04:20 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:04 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.

Flash didn't win Courage on his first try.

Jangbi for one beat him.

Show nested quote +
Q: You will meet (T)Flash in the Round of 8.
A: (T)Flash is a player that after his debut, has been continuing to put out consistent results. He has received attention ever since he was a practice partner and has been reigning as the best player for over 5 years. But as for me, I have a positive momentum following me. I have an experience where I defeated Flash in the 2005 Courage Tournament finals and acquired qualification to become a semi-progamer.



Really? I was so sure I read before that he qualified on his first try, or was it the first month?

Okay I'll stop talking then. haha T_T;;
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5712 Posts
April 29 2012 19:23 GMT
#255
"During the summer break of his first middle school year, Flash decided to become a progamer, and he told his parents “I want to use a month of my break to go to Seoul and live in a practice house, and officially begin studying Starcraft.”

“In the beginning, my parents strongly opposed me. I begged them and said ‘I will get progamer status in a month. If I can’t, I’ll give it up.’ My parents accepted this condition. But even though I promised this, I was unsure if I could do it.”

And so, from his home in Daejoon, he used this summer break to move to Seoul and began his life practicing. Miraculously, he successfully achieved progamer status in a month. The speed at which his abilities increased was astonishing. But on the day he achieved his progamer status, he was stopped in the Ro4 of the offline prelims. But his parents decided that he could attain success as a progamer."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:26:01
April 29 2012 19:25 GMT
#256
On April 30 2012 04:20 Harem wrote:
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On April 30 2012 04:04 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:50 Squeegy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:39 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:24 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


Hehe, you know that before he started to seriously play BW, everyone had years of experience more than him, and yet he obtained his progamer licence after a month of hard practice?


Yes. He was always a good player back then but he never "dominated" until a few years ago. People's expectations of him seem to be something like winning GSL on the first try. ><"

Whatever, either way I hope he does really well, I just hope his name doesn't get tarnished. T_T;;


I don't think you understand (I think you have a vague idea of what I was talking about when mentioning obtaining a progamer licence, because by progamer standards he was not good back then). My point is any experience current SC2 progamers have is irrelevant because Flash is absolutely the most talented and hard working RTS player to ever live. If only SC2 allows for that sort of skill, then he will catch up in no time. It's simply much easier to get into Code S as the best BW player than it is to win Courage as a kid after a month of practice.


I am fairly sure Flash failed to qualify through Courage a few times before obtaining the license. Your point still stands. Just because other people have played longer does not mean one can't catch up. TL newbies will have to realize that these Stephanos and MMAs are nothing but regional level champions to our Olympic level Flash.


No he qualified at his first try.

I don't think he only practiced for a month. He told his parents to give him one month and he'll quit if he didn't make it. I'm pretty sure he played BW for a lot longer than a month.

But I agree that it's probably harder to win Courage like that after 1 month than getting into Code S (right now). Hell, even Jaedong took like 3 tries I think?

Why wouldn't you consider him good back then? He was always good I think, just a bit cheesy and 14CC'ed every game lol. He made solid runs during his first years.

Flash didn't win Courage on his first try.

Jangbi for one beat him.

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Q: You will meet (T)Flash in the Round of 8.
A: (T)Flash is a player that after his debut, has been continuing to put out consistent results. He has received attention ever since he was a practice partner and has been reigning as the best player for over 5 years. But as for me, I have a positive momentum following me. I have an experience where I defeated Flash in the 2005 Courage Tournament finals and acquired qualification to become a semi-progamer.



Confusion.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095

"During the summer break of his first middle school year, Flash decided to become a progamer, and he told his parents “I want to use a month of my break to go to Seoul and live in a practice house, and officially begin studying Starcraft.”

“In the beginning, my parents strongly opposed me. I begged them and said ‘I will get progamer status in a month. If I can’t, I’ll give it up.’ My parents accepted this condition. But even though I promised this, I was unsure if I could do it.”

And so, from his home in Daejoon, he used this summer break to move to Seoul and began his life practicing. Miraculously, he successfully achieved progamer status in a month. The speed at which his abilities increased was astonishing. But on the day he achieved his progamer status, he was stopped in the Ro4 of the offline prelims. But his parents decided that he could attain success as a progamer. In 2007, in the third year of middle school, he joined KTF MagicNs. He was only 15."

Maybe before seriously deciding to go pro he had attempted the courage tournament.

Oh, you beat me to it maybenexttime.
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
April 29 2012 19:33 GMT
#257
On April 30 2012 03:48 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:20 K3Nyy wrote:
I hate these kinds of discussions.

Let's not overhype him. Everybody in the current scene has like two years ahead of him and to expect so much from him when he debuts is kind of unreasonable. And I hope the sc2 newbies will respect him as the god he is in BW and not insult him.

I'm such a big fan of Flash and it'll break my heart to see people talk about him like they do about forgg.


It's hard to respect him if he doesn't do amazing due to the "elephant in the room" thread.


Even if he doesn't perform as well as many people assume he will that doesn't take away from the fact that he is the best RTS player in BW and likely ever.
ForgottenOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania236 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#258
VODs anyone?
Born free, as free as the wind blows...
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
April 29 2012 19:42 GMT
#259
The problem for the current SC2 players is that they're human. Humans can't beat Flash.
can i get my estro logo back pls
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5712 Posts
April 29 2012 19:43 GMT
#260
It's likely he lost but was drafted regardless because they decided he was talented and deserved it.
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