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Vendemmia
Italy198 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:04 jpak wrote: BW players do not dominate: the game REALLY sucks. BW players do dominate: the game still sucks AND foreigners are lazy bums. I see no problem here :p Actually it is more like: S-class BW players do not dominate: The game is hopelessly volatile S-class BW players do dominate: The game isn't hopelessly volatile, but spectatorwise it is still an inferior game... The above stems from people having more faith in the S-class players of BW's skills than SC2 being a well-balanced game... If you are going to flame BW-elitists, at least do it for the right reasons. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
All the other pros here are doomed. THEY'RE DOOOMED! | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:52 Ghostcom wrote: Actually it is more like: S-class BW players do not dominate: The game is hopelessly volatile S-class BW players do dominate: The game isn't hopelessly volatile, but spectatorwise it is still an inferior game... The above stems from people having more faith in the S-class players of BW's skills than SC2 being a well-balanced game... If you are going to flame BW-elitists, at least do it for the right reasons. why is it inferior? if they come in and dominate doesn't it mean sc2 has the necessary skill ceiling that allows players to be completely dominant if their skill is better? isn't that exactly what bw fans (and imo everyone should be) hope for? why is it STILL inferior? I really thought this would be the litmus test. the best rts players alive on the planet come over. if their talent allows them to rise above the current crop, sc2 is validated. if not, even as an sc2 fan, I totally get considering it inferior to BW. but to STILL call it worse if they do dominate, that I don't understand. that just seems like you are attached to BW. which is fine but call it what it is. edit - this is ignoring the word "hopelessly" being a bit of an exaggeration for a game with 2 expansions still to come and an untold number of patches. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:52 Ghostcom wrote: Actually it is more like: S-class BW players do not dominate: The game is hopelessly volatile S-class BW players do dominate: The game isn't hopelessly volatile, but spectatorwise it is still an inferior game... The above stems from people having more faith in the S-class players of BW's skills than SC2 being a well-balanced game... If you are going to flame BW-elitists, at least do it for the right reasons. You are more eloquent about this than I am. I agree, spectator-wise SC2 is inferior. I never believed in the elephant, anyways | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:58 jpak wrote: You are more eloquent about this than I am. I agree, spectator-wise SC2 is inferior. I never believed in the elephant, anyways you agree because you're attached to BW, though. as your sig makes clear. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:59 Vari wrote: you agree because you're attached to BW, though. as your sig makes clear. If starcraft 2 was indeed named something else, we would not be having this conversation. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
*ForGG gets into Code S* OMG ForGG is going to win GSL soon! *ForGG gets owned in Code S* ForGG is way past his prime, wait till Flash switches over! *Flash plays SC2* OMG Flash is going to win GSL soon! *If Flash gets owned in SC2* SC2 is a stupidly easy game that does not reward skill! | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:59 Vari wrote: you agree because you're attached to BW, though. as your sig makes clear. He has no BIAS! .."Entusman #50!! What happens when the Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object? Chuck Norris dies. Starcraft 2's greatest mistake was naming itself after Starcraft: Brood War." >.> | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:02 ppshchik wrote: Yup, just hype Flash just like you guys hype ForGG. *ForGG gets into Code S* OMG ForGG is going to win GSL soon! *ForGG gets owned in Code S* ForGG is way past his prime, wait till Flash switches over! *Flash plays SC2* OMG Flash is going to win GSL soon! *If Flash gets owned in SC2* SC2 is a stupidly easy game that does not reward skill! no need to be a BW anti-fan you folks are just as bad as pure BW elitists. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:02 jpak wrote: If starcraft 2 was indeed named something else, we would not be having this conversation. that's great but this continues to not actually explain why sc2 is worse for spectators than BW EVEN IF bw players like Flash come in and dominate. I really thought the only issue was the perception (the VERY FAIR perception, I want to make clear I don't disagree with you) that sc2 is too volatile and the skill ceiling is too low to compare to BW. but if that isn't true, why is it STILL worse? | ||
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Shalaiyn
Netherlands2735 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:02 ppshchik wrote: Yup, just hype Flash just like you guys hype ForGG. *ForGG gets into Code S* OMG ForGG is going to win GSL soon! *ForGG gets owned in Code S* ForGG is way past his prime, wait till Flash switches over! *Flash plays SC2* OMG Flash is going to win GSL soon! *If Flash gets owned in SC2* SC2 is a stupidly easy game that does not reward skill! fOrGG was kinda bad in comparison to Flash. Like, comparing fOrGG is like comparing IdrA now to Nestea in his prime. | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:05 Shalaiyn wrote: fOrGG was kinda bad in comparison to Flash. Like, comparing fOrGG is like comparing IdrA now to Nestea in his prime. I would say its more like comparing nada to MKP personally | ||
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Garmer
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:07 sc14s wrote: I would say its more like comparing nada to MKP personally both of those are understatements | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:04 sc14s wrote: no need to be a BW anti-fan you folks are just as bad as pure BW elitists. I just think all the hype surrounding ForGG made him lose his appeal in SC2, I just don't want the same thing happening to Flash. Just sick of BW elitist will make every excuse if Flash manages to not do well in SC2 I also think Flash's playstyle is too methodical to play SC2 Terran. SC2 Terran doesn't really suit his turtling style, esp in TvZ. I do think Fantasy will do well with SC2 Terran though. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:07 Garmer wrote: actually the original was: "Starcraft 2's greatest mistake was naming itself after the greatest of all: Starcraft: Brood War." which is still basically saying "I'll never accept sc2 because I love BW too much" which I can't argue with but it's not a compelling reason for anyone else to agree that sc2 is less interesting for spectators (again assuming flash can come in and blow us away) | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:08 ppshchik wrote: I just think all the hype surrounding ForGG made him lose his appeal in SC2, I just don't want the same thing happening to Flash. Just sick of BW elitist will make every excuse if Flash manages to not do well in SC2 I also think Flash's playstyle is too methodical to play SC2 Terran. SC2 Terran doesn't really suit his turtling style, esp in TvZ. I do think Fantasy will do well with SC2 Terran though. uuhhhh you don't know flash if you think all he does is turtling.. thats just one of his many styles he is the king of timings and macro and mechanics. there is a reason he is called god in bw. He is just good all around. I would personally say jaejong has better mechanics but flash's are scary as well. also fantasy is supposedly going zerg. | ||
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Atlasy
Hungary229 Posts
On April 29 2012 19:39 IAmSpooner wrote: I can't wait to see if Flash will be as great in WOL as he was in BW. I can tell you for sure that he won't be. WoL will end soon, since most likely HotS Beta is coming out in the summer, and after a half year or so when it gets released tournaments will switch. So the question is that how he will do in HotS. But maybe I underestimate the power of the God so... But I don't think that he will be done those things in SC2 that he has done in BW in 5-6 months. Oh, and also what if he will play HotS beta immidietly, so he will have 1-2 months with WoL (: I feel like that he won't be able to achive that much in WoL because he won't have enough time for that. But in HotS he will be kick-ass I'm sure. | ||
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