EPTHow to calculate your MMR from results of 1 match - Page 5
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The Pale King
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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Penke
Sweden346 Posts
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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Gessen
United States19 Posts
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Kaladin
United States88 Posts
here is what i calculated opponent current points - 149 opponent unspent bonus - 34 total bonus - 121 points he got from beating me (26...that's with the bonus pool points added) points he got from beating me without bonus points - 13 so that would make my mmr anywhere from 52-84 both of us are in diamond which tier am i in? | ||
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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Not_That
287 Posts
On April 27 2012 05:56 Greenei wrote: theres one thing i dont get. what if my opponents adjusted points are very low, because he hasnt played so many games. that would mean, that my calculated MMR rises, even though i dont get stronger. It doesn't matter how close/far your opponent's adjusted points are to his MMR. The ladder system just looks at the difference between his adjusted points and your MMR, and calculates a number of points to give him after the game. On April 27 2012 05:55 Kaladin wrote: I still don't understand the diamond tiers. here is what i calculated opponent current points - 149 opponent unspent bonus - 34 total bonus - 121 points he got from beating me (26...that's with the bonus pool points added) points he got from beating me without bonus points - 13 so that would make my mmr anywhere from 52-84 both of us are in diamond which tier am i in? Unfortunately there isn't a simple way to determine your (or your opponent) tier below Master. All you know is that when compared with whatever tier of your opponent belonged to in Diamond, you have an MMR of 52-84. If you can somehow find out his tier, then you would know your MMR. Alternatively wait until you're matched against a Master player then you'll know. | ||
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aGGy
Israel31 Posts
keep up the good work! P.S. FoPǂChimaira just became popular! | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
Now that I think about it, I'd bet that the GM off-set from masters is 432, but it could be any random number afaik... I still think that the jump for every division is 63, just because it makes sense to me. I also think that the "ZERO" MMR is the 0 for the Tier S Gold Division. I think in theory it makes sense that bronze equals to diamond + master + gm, silver equates to platinum and then we have gold with its 2 tiers. Gold is the middle of the way, so it makes sense that it has the 0MMR and then a silver player would have -126 or less MMR and a platinum player a +126 or more MMR. That would mean "0" master is 780 MMR and a 720 master would reach the 1500 MMR cap. 3000 was the CAP for world of warcraft arena games once, but they don't have negative MMR there, because Blizzard added 1500 so no one would be with negative numbers, as it has a negative impact on people, but we don't need this +1500 here so... | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
If you could help me confirm what I just said, it would be helpful. I confirmed it existed for a bronze-level that was placed at platinum friend of mine and it would make sense if bronze-plat, probably diamonds would all have it. But I didn't confirm anything. <3 And that's it, thanks for your effort, these numbers will help me, specially with this new system ^^ | ||
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:06 Not_That wrote: It doesn't matter how close/far your opponent's adjusted points are to his MMR. The ladder system just looks at the difference between his adjusted points and your MMR, and calculates a number of points to give him after the game. . ah i get it. when he hasnt played much he wont lose many points. | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Gonna play a game and then use this once I get back from class | ||
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5525 Posts
On April 27 2012 08:32 XenoX101 wrote: So how does this MMR have any significance? You've only given us a method to finding out our MMR as some arbitrary number, you haven't told us what this number means or how we can even go about finding out what it means. Before I start, let me quickly run through some reasons why should you care about your MMR: - MMR is the ELO rating which represents your skill. It shifts wildly, that is why Blizzard does not reveal it. However some of us want to know our skill and whether or not we progress. - It can (eventually) be used to find out league promotion / demotion threadholds, and how close are you to a promotion. - At the beginning of each new season everyone's adjusted points starts at 0. It can take anywhere up to a 100 matches or even more before your adjusted points have caught on with your MMR. Until then your adjusted points will continue to slowly shift towards your MMR. This is good if you like seeing your points change and get a feeling of 'progression' with each game you play, but if you wish to tell whether or not you improve as a player it is meaningless. - You could see who the best players on each server truly are. - It can (with work) be used to help find out the hidden league points modifiers and league tiers modifiers of each league. From the OP. | ||
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Nezi
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
I have 2 questions 1)If it would help at all for me to submit any information I will do so, so my question is let me know how I can help. I am pretty active 5/g day 2) Is there an easy way to figure out which division of diamond I'm in.. i mean without finding someone whose played someone who played someone who played someone, ..., who played masters? I think i'm 51-83 Plus Diamond offset?. but I could be wrong (i am confused by division offsets) Someone confirm? I am in diamond. Played a diamond. I won, I gained 11 points*. He lost 7. He now has 151 points, I have 236. *I believe 1 point was bonus point, because he now has 8 bonus pool while I have 7. Neither of us have played a game since. | ||
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:23 SDream wrote: BTW, it seems that the "zero" for the bronze-diamond leagues (at least) is not zero, but a number between 80 and 112, so keep that in mind when calculating your MMR, everyone gets 80-112 points for "free" and the system think that it is some kind of "zero", so you are platinum and won against a bronze, silver, gold, it doesn't matter, you will get 15 points! If you could help me confirm what I just said, it would be helpful. I confirmed it existed for a bronze-level that was placed at platinum friend of mine and it would make sense if bronze-plat, probably diamonds would all have it. But I didn't confirm anything. <3 And that's it, thanks for your effort, these numbers will help me, specially with this new system ^^ How do we confirm this? I'm a bit confused. This will or will not be apparent when diamond beats platinum. This seems like something the system would do to catch people up to what their points should be when they haven't played many games. I'm curious how the new changes to matchmaking have affected this, if at all. | ||
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