EPTHow to calculate your MMR from results of 1 match - Page 3
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Sectorix
Israel40 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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MShaw006
United States74 Posts
On April 26 2012 19:41 Delta-V wrote: I don't get it, you say that the blue column on the right of that table is the opponent's adjusted points minus your mmr, right? so blue = oppAdj - mmr this would mean that mmr = oppAdj - blue Then you say to get the mmr you add the opponents adjusted points to those values (blue). this would mean that mmr = oppAdj + blue which is not the same as above. What am I missing? I think you're right. It appears to be completely mislabeled, as are the rest of the graphs. The 'blue' to which you refer appears to be "your MMR" - "opponent adjusted points". OP did great work, but these graphs are a trainwreck. Graph 1: This was completely confusing. Neither axis is labeled in-graph or in-text. It took guesswork after finishing the whole post to figure out that the x-axis is "points the opponent stood to win (that is, 'points actually won' or 'points lost + 24')" and the y-axis is "opponent points - mmr". OP just throws in "playerXhigh" and "playerXlow", and never explains what those mean. Graph 2: As stated, the label of the blue section should be "MMR minus opponent's adjusted points". Graph 3: As confusing as the first graph. Zero labels, and zero mention anywhere of what each axis is. Graph 4: OP calls the y-axis "Adjusted points in Master league". That tells us absolutely nothing. If you were to talk about the "adjusted points in Master league" with someone, would they have any idea what you're talking about? No. It should be "Opponent adjusted points". That's the terminology used in the rest of the post; it's extremely confusing to see different terminology here. Graph 5: The line denoting FoPǂChimaira's adjusted points is simply given the label "adjusted points", the same label as the y-axis. This problem would mostly be solved if the y-axis were already labeled "Opponent adjusted points", but why not call it "FoPǂChimaira's adjusted points"? OP shouldn't worry that FoPǂChimaira's data won't be an opponent's adjust points; he already explained that he was overlaying his data on the previous graph. Also, the legend indicates that blue bars denote MMR, with no mention of red bars at all. What? Bars blue for wins, red for losses, and they're both marking adjusted points, not MMR. I think OP did a great job figuring this out, and a decent job explaining it, but these graphs may be doing more harm than good as they stand. The labeling is just off the wall. Figuring out the graphs is total guesswork until you get the big picture. | ||
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iSneak
Israel8 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Asunanas
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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Aakoz
Sweden45 Posts
If anyone is kind and wanna help me that would be sweet! :D Diamond Rank 1 I have 385 points with 4 bonus pool Last Opponent: Diamond Rank 3 359 points with 0 bonus pool I won the game and gained 12 points and I had no bonus pool at that time and he lost 10 points from the game And I'm on the Europe server so the current total season bonus pool for your server is 198 ! Thanks =) | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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sharky246
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
On April 26 2012 22:47 Rannasha wrote: Nice post. Your explanation was quite clear. The inner workings of the ladder are really interesting and I'm glad there are folks that unlike me aren't too lazy to do the data-gathering required to obtain results eaxactly what i wanted to say, especially the lazy part^^ | ||
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
On April 26 2012 21:29 Pokebunny wrote: The most useful piece of info I took from this is the GM-Master offset being confirmed as 430. Hope we can get the SC2ranks maker to implement a combined ranking of master/gm! THIS omg..... Now we could actually make a comprehensive list per ladder region of rank 1 to rank 1,000,000 in order, in spite of leagues. | ||
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
I'd rate this 5/5 if I could  Brilliant work | ||
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Neidacore
Latvia16 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On April 26 2012 20:31 Gyoza wrote: Once you have manged to calculate your MMR, how do you know what league that corrseponds to? All the Diamond tiers are in comparison to Master MMR, but within what interval is the master league MMR? Master was used as the baseline there because after we figured out all the Diamond offsets, once Master league appeared we were able to math it out to -150 from the top of Diamond. This meant that Master became the new zero point. Grandmaster we were able to narrow it down to around -430 (plus or minus some margin of error which I think was around 10 or so), but because it was never locked down 100% it wasn't added to the ladder guide. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
Will results be a problem in the first few weeks when people haven't reached their MMR in points yet? | ||
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elimzkE
Australia92 Posts
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