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KwarK
United States44212 Posts
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StavrosHL
Greece128 Posts
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:51 StavrosHL wrote: lol , why getting tired of thinking so much instead of make that simple assumption : 2x worker rushes ( especially pp or zz ) will insta win the game no matter what lvl the opponent is. Not true. HuK has held a double worker rush vs two master's league players. I think it was on TL Attack. | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
EDIT - The games I played were TvZ where I went reactor hellion and isolated one of them while going cloak banshee and sending it to the other and CC'ing in base. Other was a PvZ where I just forge FE'd with 3 blind cannons then macro'd up a deathball and just pushed, because their macro is no where near good enough even combined it is hardly what a real Z could macro by himself. | ||
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Vaapad
Norway171 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8313 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:06 jazzyjazz wrote: There was this "bet" on a thread on TL 1.5 years ago when SC2 just released. This forum-member called CheAse, he was high diamond at the time (I don't think masters league was invented yet, w/e) and he was challenged by 2 of his classmates who were both in gold-league (in 2v2). There was a $100 bet on the line, the thread/hype amounted to 100+ pages and the games were even live-casted by several casters. So 1 high-diamond (prob a high masters now) vs 2 gold-leaguers and it was a bo5 (or bo7 lol). And CheAse won by a score of 3-1 I think. He lost the first game b/c he tried to macro up but the 2 gold-leaguers just all-inned him. But afterwards, CheAse went for harass as well and that really threw the scrubs off their game and he managed to win the series. But the 2 guys he faced were BAD, like, one of the dudes built-a-PF-at-their-main-BAD. edit: found the thread of the "grudgematch" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=157860 Torch (Currently of Startale) did something similar with his two (actually it could have been three) room mates who hadn't played the game very much and Torch beat them. That was during the beta though. | ||
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Bishonen
17 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:54 lastshadow wrote: I won 1v2 vs a Diamond and a gold Korean coach + his friend the other day on stream, 1v2 isn't an issue unless the two opponents are at least masters, even then low masters(na/eu) might still be do-able if its a one-matchup thing.. EDIT - The games I played were TvZ where I went reactor hellion and isolated one of them while going cloak banshee and sending it to the other and CC'ing in base. Other was a PvZ where I just forge FE'd with 3 blind cannons then macro'd up a deathball and just pushed, because their macro is no where near good enough even combined it is hardly what a real Z could macro by himself. If you reached reactor hellion and that lead to a win, you know that the opponents weren't even trying lol | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
And lost. No one knows how it happened, but it did. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:51 Demonhunter04 wrote: Not true. HuK has held a double worker rush vs two master's league players. I think it was on TL Attack. Two "master level" players, yeah. Masters in 2v2 does not equal masters in 1v1. Hell, I know people in 1v1 bronze and in teamleagues they'd be platinum/diamond. | ||
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Blezza
United Kingdom191 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
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Mordoc
United States162 Posts
We usually won. In SC2, its a lot easier to just make colossi and win, or to worker rush and win; so, for example, I think 2 golds could take down a diamond. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
tl;dr The skill gap has to be really big for a 1v2 to be even, as some builds becomes exponentially more powerful in a 2v1 situation, regardless of skill level. | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
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Beakyboo
United States485 Posts
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:57 Bishonen wrote: If you reached reactor hellion and that lead to a win, you know that the opponents weren't even trying lol Well, if there's anyone that would take you up on the offer it's probably LS. It'd be a fun thing to stream a bo5 or bo7 of this just to see how it actually plays out. Doing it with Zerg is infinitely harder than P/T. Terran is far and away the best race for 1v2s because of drops, wall-off, mass-repair bunkers, and the ability to make an in-base CC. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:58 Draconicfire wrote: Somewhat related, but back in BW I played a 4vs1 against a Korean guy in our class. We worker rushed. And lost. No one knows how it happened, but it did. Haha dat story. Good stuff, and I'll believe it, for the beauty of the myth. | ||
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Baltor
United States171 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:06 jazzyjazz wrote: There was this "bet" on a thread on TL 1.5 years ago when SC2 just released. This forum-member called CheAse, he was high diamond at the time (I don't think masters league was invented yet, w/e) and he was challenged by 2 of his classmates who were both in gold-league (in 2v2). There was a $100 bet on the line, the thread/hype amounted to 100+ pages and the games were even live-casted by several casters. So 1 high-diamond (prob a high masters now) vs 2 gold-leaguers and it was a bo5 (or bo7 lol). And CheAse won by a score of 3-1 I think. He lost the first game b/c he tried to macro up but the 2 gold-leaguers just all-inned him. But afterwards, CheAse went for harass as well and that really threw the scrubs off their game and he managed to win the series. But the 2 guys he faced were BAD, like, one of the dudes built-a-PF-at-their-main-BAD. edit: found the thread of the "grudgematch" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=157860 Holy cow, was that really 2 years ago? Man, I'm starting to feel old. | ||
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