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CptCutter
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom370 Posts
May 17 2012 15:59 GMT
#261
On April 20 2012 04:00 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Depends on what level - Diamond / masters, no way.
Platinum is shady, probably possible.
Gold and under is out of the question.


your wrong. A recent friend of mine that started out in bronze (who is now GM) knocked Bling out of the 1st UK qualifiers for the World championship tournament.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
May 17 2012 16:07 GMT
#262
On May 18 2012 00:59 CptCutter wrote:
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On April 20 2012 04:00 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Depends on what level - Diamond / masters, no way.
Platinum is shady, probably possible.
Gold and under is out of the question.


your wrong. A recent friend of mine that started out in bronze (who is now GM) knocked Bling out of the 1st UK qualifiers for the World championship tournament.


How exactly does that make his point invalid. Someone who is in GM beat someone in GM. The fact that he was once in bronze is irrelevant and that is a 1v1 not 2v1 against a pro which is what the thread is about.
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
May 17 2012 16:24 GMT
#263
I think a Pro player, if given at least 2 bases with a small choke, and if not double 6 pooled, or 11/11 rax, 2 gate, etc., could beat two players until the master league, at which point it would not be possible.
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jarf1337
Profile Joined July 2010
United States146 Posts
May 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#264
On May 18 2012 01:24 zmansman17 wrote:
I think a Pro player, if given at least 2 bases with a small choke, and if not double 6 pooled, or 11/11 rax, 2 gate, etc., could beat two players until the master league, at which point it would not be possible.


This is too discrete... It's not like it's EZPZ vs everything up to masters and then a switch is flipped to make it impossible. There is likely some general distribution of difficulty that can describe the chances of winning 2v1 as the players' league changes.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 17 2012 16:47 GMT
#265
Could see it on an island map. There was that one TL Attack where Huk got double worker rushed and won.
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HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
May 17 2012 16:54 GMT
#266
If it's possible for me, who is high master on US, to beat one plat player and one diamond player 2v1, then it's definitely possible for a pro to beat two random masters players cause the skill gap is exponential the further up you go.

I'd say once the game goes to maxed armies there's no way for the product to win though, there's just way too much firepower. He'd have to do some sick harass or early attack to cripple them to have any chance.
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HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 16:57:22
May 17 2012 16:56 GMT
#267
Edit for fail double post
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Reval
Profile Joined January 2012
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 17:20:13
May 17 2012 17:19 GMT
#268
On May 18 2012 01:24 zmansman17 wrote:
I think a Pro player, if given at least 2 bases with a small choke, and if not double 6 pooled, or 11/11 rax, 2 gate, etc., could beat two players until the master league, at which point it would not be possible.


That's not a 2v1 really though. It's a 2v2 essentially because he controls as much economy and production as the 2 players.

The skill isn't the issue here, it's just the difficulty of dealing with twice as much stuff. No matter how cost efficient you are

I've been in a 2v2 where my partner has left and i've controlled his stuff to a victory over people in the same league so it's not really the same thing
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 17:27:05
May 17 2012 17:26 GMT
#269
Lol imagine a double 1/1/1 TvP allin against any race really + double the Banshee harass
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 02:07:06
May 18 2012 02:06 GMT
#270
On May 18 2012 02:19 Reval wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 01:24 zmansman17 wrote:
I think a Pro player, if given at least 2 bases with a small choke, and if not double 6 pooled, or 11/11 rax, 2 gate, etc., could beat two players until the master league, at which point it would not be possible.


That's not a 2v1 really though. It's a 2v2 essentially because he controls as much economy and production as the 2 players.

The skill isn't the issue here, it's just the difficulty of dealing with twice as much stuff. No matter how cost efficient you are

I've been in a 2v2 where my partner has left and i've controlled his stuff to a victory over people in the same league so it's not really the same thing


Haha I re-read my post and realized it was written rather poorly.

What I meant to say is that he has 1 base but has potential for another base, which is incorporated within the territory that bottlenecks at a small choke.

It is indeed a general statement, and even speculating on this issue isn't really worth the effort. Of course if the Pro had 2 bases to begin with, he could wipe out any team of whatever race combination from top master players as well.

However, with 1 base and the conditions that I stipulated, I think it's safe to say that he could beat at least Platinum players, if not Diamond.
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