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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
April 19 2012 19:26 GMT
#21
i doubt that even mkp could hold off 2 6 pools lol
Bishonen
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
April 19 2012 19:27 GMT
#22
On April 20 2012 04:23 Eatme wrote:
Any metagame 2:2 strat (that even lots of silver players manage to do) should take a pro down since it hits hard early. But the cut off is around there I'd say. My guess is that a pro should be able to take 2 low gold players in a best of 7 if he manages to secure a quick 2base without dying to early pushes. But it would be close.
I have myself 1v2:ed quite a few times when playing custom 2:2 on shattered temple but thats was vs quite worthless players. And by 1v2 I mean that my ally sat in his base playing sim city while I attacked and killed the other guys. This is however quite different from a real 1v2 scenario since while my ally didnt do anything he still exists in the game and cripples the mentality of the opponents.


I would never let it even come to a expansion. Each game would be over within the first 4-6min.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
April 19 2012 19:30 GMT
#23
I think a more fair game is a pro vs 2 diamonds in a game of macromicro
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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
April 19 2012 19:31 GMT
#24
On April 20 2012 04:27 Bishonen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:23 Eatme wrote:
Any metagame 2:2 strat (that even lots of silver players manage to do) should take a pro down since it hits hard early. But the cut off is around there I'd say. My guess is that a pro should be able to take 2 low gold players in a best of 7 if he manages to secure a quick 2base without dying to early pushes. But it would be close.
I have myself 1v2:ed quite a few times when playing custom 2:2 on shattered temple but thats was vs quite worthless players. And by 1v2 I mean that my ally sat in his base playing sim city while I attacked and killed the other guys. This is however quite different from a real 1v2 scenario since while my ally didnt do anything he still exists in the game and cripples the mentality of the opponents.


I would never let it even come to a expansion. Each game would be over within the first 4-6min.


With good unit and worker micro they can actually hold you off. Terran progamers especially, since they can wall and build CC in their main. Assuming you are gold, you simply cannot macro, micro, or multitask like a progamer. Past the first few minutes he would probably just have an army as big as both of you combined, and micro those units very cost efficiently.

Back when I was a Gold Protoss (season 1) I beat two of my silver friends in a 1v2 as Terran with just a week of experience playing it.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
April 19 2012 19:31 GMT
#25
On April 20 2012 04:26 Ettick wrote:
i doubt that even mkp could hold off 2 6 pools lol


Why not? Just wall off. -.-

The only real chance of a 1vs2 has to be with a Terran I think. Zerg and Protoss units don't trade the same way as they do with Terran units, with the bunker and then tanks a little later. Then as long as the other 2 don't max out, they can outplay them.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
April 19 2012 19:33 GMT
#26
I'm pretty sure a terran can easily win against diamonds and maybe low masters.
Since you can bunker up you have a chance to hold, then harass/secure a 2nd base.
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 19 2012 19:35 GMT
#27
On April 20 2012 04:26 Ettick wrote:
i doubt that even mkp could hold off 2 6 pools lol

It's actually extremely easy to stop a 2 6 pool as T, even without wall.

Build a supply / rex right next to CC in proper placement would form a natural bunker for marine.
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
April 19 2012 19:37 GMT
#28
On April 20 2012 04:27 Bishonen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:23 Eatme wrote:
Any metagame 2:2 strat (that even lots of silver players manage to do) should take a pro down since it hits hard early. But the cut off is around there I'd say. My guess is that a pro should be able to take 2 low gold players in a best of 7 if he manages to secure a quick 2base without dying to early pushes. But it would be close.
I have myself 1v2:ed quite a few times when playing custom 2:2 on shattered temple but thats was vs quite worthless players. And by 1v2 I mean that my ally sat in his base playing sim city while I attacked and killed the other guys. This is however quite different from a real 1v2 scenario since while my ally didnt do anything he still exists in the game and cripples the mentality of the opponents.


I would never let it even come to a expansion. Each game would be over within the first 4-6min.

Are you gold or silver? I admit that I could be wrong but it's kinda hard to tell since I dont play at either level and cant say for sure what they are capable off.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
shawty
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
April 19 2012 19:39 GMT
#29
I vaguely remember savior beating several amateur players (in korea though, so still pretty good) in brood war. Not sure how well it would go in sc2 though
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 19 2012 19:40 GMT
#30
On April 20 2012 04:03 monkh wrote:
This should be an OTR challange "Fight 2 players at same time"


THIS! PLEASE! Make this happen!
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
April 19 2012 19:41 GMT
#31
gold+gold no rush vs masters, perhaps.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Bishonen
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
April 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#32
On April 20 2012 04:37 Eatme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:27 Bishonen wrote:
On April 20 2012 04:23 Eatme wrote:
Any metagame 2:2 strat (that even lots of silver players manage to do) should take a pro down since it hits hard early. But the cut off is around there I'd say. My guess is that a pro should be able to take 2 low gold players in a best of 7 if he manages to secure a quick 2base without dying to early pushes. But it would be close.
I have myself 1v2:ed quite a few times when playing custom 2:2 on shattered temple but thats was vs quite worthless players. And by 1v2 I mean that my ally sat in his base playing sim city while I attacked and killed the other guys. This is however quite different from a real 1v2 scenario since while my ally didnt do anything he still exists in the game and cripples the mentality of the opponents.


I would never let it even come to a expansion. Each game would be over within the first 4-6min.

Are you gold or silver? I admit that I could be wrong but it's kinda hard to tell since I dont play at either level and cant say for sure what they are capable off.


Back when i was active, I was platinium. I have switched from wc3 so i knew the basics of a rts game (micro/macro). I'm still not convinced that a Pro like Marineking/Idra/Grubby would stand a chance. The difference in units created between a gm and diamond within the first 5 min or so is marginal. Double the marine count that you have after 5min and tell me how long a wall will stand? I say 0 chances. Any pro can prove me wrong (which wont happen I'm afraid)
ralffriend
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany112 Posts
April 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#33
Back in good(well i am terran so that were good times^^) old times Morrow - who played terran decades ago - won a 2v1 with massreapers and outmacroed a terran + zerg. They went Marine/roach and were about platnum and a diamond. I watched that on stream and i think it depends a lot on the map and the position(in the game with Morrow they didn´nt know where he spawned).
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43952 Posts
April 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#34
Moving to sc2.
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Bishonen
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
April 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#35
On April 20 2012 04:42 ralffriend wrote:
Back in good(well i am terran so that were good times^^) old times Morrow - who played terran decades ago - won a 2v1 with massreapers and outmacroed a terran + zerg. They went Marine/roach and were about platnum and a diamond. I watched that on stream and i think it depends a lot on the map and the position(in the game with Morrow they didn´nt know where he spawned).


Let's assume that the 2 players the pro would face would be familiar with the term "scouting"
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 19:44:55
April 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#36
It depends on how good the non-pro players are obviously. I'd say a pro could beat two plats or below.

But late late game, if the pro doesn't win until then, he will not win a 200 supply vs 400 supply battle.
MaFFGeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States47 Posts
April 19 2012 19:45 GMT
#37
I'm a pretty high master terran and I crushed two of my mid gold friends 1v2. (They were PZ if that matters).
http://sc2ranks.com/us/456806/MaFFGeeK
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
April 19 2012 19:46 GMT
#38
Well it´s not that hard for 2 Plat+ players to make a bunch of blink stalkers and blink into the main at 7 minute.
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
April 19 2012 19:46 GMT
#39
impossible for the pro. i tell ya no pro on earth can beat 2 of me at once.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
April 19 2012 19:47 GMT
#40
I am Platinum main race Terran.

I played against two Silver Zergs and was able to have a bigger army than the two of them combined (both were massing ling/roach vs my pure stalker army)

Masters vs anything gold and under will be a cakewalk. I don't know about Plat--but I do not think it is out of the question.
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