EPTwhen i play as P vs T, i sitll laugh at protoss lategame...
im commenting on the race not the player
so i guess ur right
Will "Hating a certain Race" ever go away? - Page 5
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Kfcnoob
United States296 Posts
when i play as P vs T, i sitll laugh at protoss lategame... im commenting on the race not the player so i guess ur right | ||
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:17 pOnarreT wrote: I'm pretty sure that if Terran is removed from SC2, all the hatred would turn to love. It would be boring but at least there is no hatred. You see Terran is always winning big tournaments, but still whines. Whining results in hating. Babies = whiners. So if Terran babies are removed from SC2, whiners would be non-existent thus resulting in removal of hatred. I think Blizzard should try it. Remove Terran in PTR and see how it goes. The maybe, just maybe, the world of SC2 would be a better place. Must be troll post. No one wants to watch a tournament thats mainly pvp(ew) and zvz(less ew since it's been developed a bit more to a certain extent but still pretty ew) Besides, zvp is such a retarded match-up. protoss does 2base timing to kill third. Zerg maxes roaches and attacks. If it goes beyond that, a vortex decides the game. TvT is much funner to watch even tho we've seen it countless of times. zvt is kinda boring now with fast broods being popular but it's still fun when they use diff strats. and pvt is fun since I can never tell who really is ahead sometimes since I play Z and pvt is very much micro intensive and strat oriented as well. | ||
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-eXalt
United States462 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:57 Jinsho wrote: What is the point of this thread? "It'd be nice if people were nicer to each other"? the point of this thread is expressed in the Title, but moreso I just wanted to give my thoughts on how shitty the NA scene is compared to KR, and gauge whether or not the NA scene will ever adopt the koreans mentality on the game. Koreans are all so aggresive (or as IdrA might say, gimmicky, risky, cheesy) that it causes them to look at the game in an entirely different way (generally speaking) where this aggresive (again, known as gimmicky faggot risks on NA) play is a desirable skill to have that will make you a better player. Macro is overrated on NA, or EU (it's very easy to macro well in SC2 honestly) whereas having refined aggressive builds is not. So, since everyone in their community plays this way, the IdrA-mentality effectively goes away. Result? less BM on ladder, less hatred of a certain race. Example, take <generic platinum zerg who feels he is a macro god on NA> and put him on the Korean server against slightly better opponents. Result? He will most likely rage and blame the "risky cheesy faggots" to help mend his bruised ego. I say this because when I first started playing on the KR server I was shocked at the crazy style's / all ins they used, now i'm used to it though. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:02 blinken wrote: My personal hope is that they include a racial preference, just like map preference. The thought of never playing PvP again would increase the amount I ladder 10 fold. Amen to that brother, amen to that. | ||
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willverrecken
80 Posts
but then terrans would only play tvt LOL. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
Protoss... I think everybody hates protoss, even the protoss players hate it - because of all its DTs and other proxy hidden gay shit.  Protoss always hide under their mummy and supervising arbiters, they appear in your base, they disappear when you hit them. It's like Tom Cruise invented the race./i'm not being entirely serious in this post, by the way, don't get offended now | ||
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TripleOSeven
United States106 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:45 nakedsurfer wrote: Must be troll post. No one wants to watch a tournament thats mainly pvp(ew) and zvz(less ew since it's been developed a bit more to a certain extent but still pretty ew) Obviously a troll, reverse his name around. I don't think race hating will ever stop because it's hard not to hate something when everyone else hates it. For example, when reaper rushes were very effective. If someone says Terran is op because of it, how do you think new players will think when they encounter these kinds of things? I think it has to do mostly with influence and how it passes on person to person. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
It adds to some of the excitment and sports aspect. Just like two sides in a soccer game "hates" the other team or the fans of the team. I hate protoss but I sure as hell wouldn't want them to be removed. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 17 2012 15:08 TripleOSeven wrote: Obviously a troll, reverse his name around. I don't think race hating will ever stop because it's hard not to hate something when everyone else hates it. For example, when reaper rushes were very effective. If someone says Terran is op because of it, how do you think new players will think when they encounter these kinds of things? I think it has to do mostly with influence and how it passes on person to person. yeah... reaper rushes were "pretty effective"... 2armor 1supply roaches were "pretty effective" as well and leaving them like that would have solved the reaperproblem zergs had  | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
As far as SC2 goes, I'm fine with Terran and Zerg. I just hate Protoss because it feels too easy and it's boring to play and even more boring to spectate. I've been in favor of a heavy reworking of the Protoss race for quite some time now. It's why my interest in SC2 tournaments, especially foreign ones (though Protoss has infected GSL again unfortunately) has waned considerably in recent months, and why I've gone back to watching and playing BW almost exclusively. I want SC2 to be a great game, but Protoss is holding it back. | ||
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Rowrin
United States280 Posts
I don't think it will end, and I don't think it should (to a degree). Race/Faction pride is a unique thing to have in games and it is cool that people can emotionally relate to people of opposite/same factions. Of course there is an unhealthly level to which some people desend to (*cough cough idra cough*), but it is nice to have people strongly represent their faction of choice, it adds depth to the game. As for BM in ladder: there is BM in every sport played. Unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct, it is just built into how humans are when it comes to competative activities. Argueably online games host more BM/unsportsmanlike conduct due to the annonomous nature of the internet, but I dont think it will breed into LAN play because the reason is stripped away. | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
Whether it's the ridiculous abundance of allins, or the strong lategame... | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
So what? | ||
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Ashes
United States362 Posts
 <3 to all races | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
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mewbert
United States291 Posts
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
That's a human problem: not being able to stand for their losses. And because SC2 is a highly competitive game and more difficult then almost any other new game it especially effects SC2. You can easily lose in SC2 for a single second of not paying attention (for example getting your army stormed), that's hard to take for a lot of people and because they can't deal with that loss they blame balance issues for it. (in this example: "TOSS OP IMBA STORM SO EAZY!1!1!1!"). What they don't understand is that the same thing can happen to the opponent as well, this game has so many forms of "terrible terrible damage" (D. Bowder) that after all is set and done, the player wins who has better focus on the game, better multitasking (mechanics) and decision making. The game is probably as balanced as it can be. Maybe the very best players in the world can tell if the game is balanced or not but a "top-masters-NA"-player certainly can't. All forms of balance complaints, whining and BM are ways of people trying to deal (or rather trying to dodge dealing) with their losses. In my opinion that's the wrong way, at least not a good mindset to improve. TLDR: People can't deal with losses and blame something else for it (balance), that's a human problem and can't be fixed. | ||
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sieksdekciw
240 Posts
So unless the game is modified in such a way that people at all levels feel itis balanced at their level, there is always going to be that feeling of injustice when a player of a certain race loses to another that he feels is unfairly strong compared to his, hence the frustration which in turn is responsible for the hate against a certain race. Also, some people are just angry and would hate everything depending on mood. | ||
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