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Will "Hating a certain Race" ever go away?

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-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 03:49:23
April 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#1
Or is it embedded within the SC community from the roots?

It seems that wherever I go in the SC2 community, there are always people who hate a certain race. In the beta, it was zergs hating Terran players. This means that said zerg players hated not only the Terran "race" but also the type of person that picked terran on a near personal level.

Now you'll see a ton of terran players hating on Protoss players. I ladder as both races (this is in master league, I assume it's relatively the same throughout all leagues, though.) and when I play protoss there is a 70% chance that at the end of the game my opponent will say something to the effect of "protoss faggot".

This causes a few problems..
-It can attribute to the lack of unified communitys on bnet. Let me elaborate:
Let's say I go to the practice partner thread in hopes of starting a practice group (you know, vent, practice games, all that good stuff that makes gaming more fun right?) Unfortunately, the Terran player I pick subsequently has an inner hatred of Protoss players. Thus, our "relationship" doesn't work out because he ends up leaving and un-friending me because he get's angry at the end of the game, justifying the loss with the fact I was playing a certain race.. this is based on a few "real life" stories.

-It can actually effect potential real-life relationships at LANs etc. I beat a zerg using an aggresive strategy while playing terran, and he leaves saying terran is a joke (this is at a freaking LAN). If this player did not have a bias against Terran, and he was all mannered, then I would have felt comfortable going up to him afterwards and talking, thus creating a real life friendship. Again, based on a true story.

This mentality is so deeply embedded in the SC2 scene that I fear it may never go away. People need to realize that playing a certain race has little to do with the actual person playing it. The guy playing Protoss on ladder just now in a PvT probably did NOT pick Protoss just to "abuse" the fact that they're strong in the current metagame, but rather he probably picked the race when he first picked up Starcraft when he had NO idea what high-level multiplayer was like.

My personal hope for our community is that eventually the hatred in game, on a personal level, will go away with time. When someone is losing he will stop blaming it on balance and instead focus on the mistakes he made during the game. That we will all take a step back and realize this is just a game that you can allow you to meet and hang out with other like minded nerds (most people I meet at LANs share so many of my interests it's insane, compared to highschool where I couldn't hold a conversation with someone not into video-games for more than a minute because our interests are so completely different).

And my personal fear is, that it is embedded in the NA scene too much. I say this because I rarely experience any BM on the korean server, compared to the NA server which is endless BM (no I don't freaking care if you GLHF or GG. What I do care about is the hateful one-liners that I see at the end of nearly every ladder match. How the fuck am I supposed to meet people in game if they BM me after our first game? I'de love to live in a community where I could message my opponent on ladder after the game and talk about the strategy etc involed or become practice partners, something I only can do if I lose currently). My fear is that the people I play on ladder will never think of the game in the same way that I do, and will continue being hateful, obnoxious, and BMt til the end of days. It could just be the NA (sorry EU, I have not played on the server) scene is too "personally" connected to the game and thus, when beaten in game they are offended on a personal level (reference: the IdrA mentality which is largely to blame).

edit: 333 post... :megusta:
Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
April 17 2012 03:50 GMT
#2
No, I don't think so.
Tyrion Lannister
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 17 2012 03:51 GMT
#3
No, its been rooted since BW.

Would have been nice to see it gone but unfortunately it wont
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 17 2012 03:53 GMT
#4
It will never go away because the day will never come when people stop being noobs.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
April 17 2012 03:54 GMT
#5
Look at BW.. People still hate every race that they lose against .
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45399 Posts
April 17 2012 03:55 GMT
#6
I don't think part of the community disliking certain races will destroy the fabric of TeamLiquid or StarCraft any more than disliking certain teams or players or anything else about the game.

It's all part of the game. Some people have really strong opinions, but at the end of the day, most of us get over it when we need to, and just really want to see an epic game
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 03:57:52
April 17 2012 03:55 GMT
#7
It certainly never disappeared in the bw scene. Plenty of people complain about zerg, protoss or terran even though if you ask them they'll probably agree that while not completely perfect, bw is about as balanced as a rts probably will ever be.
esq>n
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
April 17 2012 03:56 GMT
#8
No, people would rather blame something external to themselves as the problem. Why admit that you played poorly when you can simply blame it on the imbalance of the other race!
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
Amaterasu1234
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 17 2012 03:56 GMT
#9
I just say I hate protoss players 'cause they chose the easy race...

I don't actually mean any of it.

I understand that it takes skill to play the race...but with how they roll me like I'm a scrub, I have to lash out somehow...'cause I think it's dumb how 5 colossi make it look like I picked up the game two days ago...
MrFrenchy
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada37 Posts
April 17 2012 03:57 GMT
#10
In the words of the great Mr. West, "there will always be haters that's the way it is. Hater *****'s marry hater B****'s and have hater kids".
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 04:18:59
April 17 2012 04:00 GMT
#11
On April 17 2012 12:53 EtherealDeath wrote:
It will never go away because the day will never come when people stop being noobs.


Well I hate to play devil's advocate here, but I have to in this case. I have very rarely bmed, and when I have I am embarrassed. When I ladder after typing "gl hf" I just mute the person and I gg if I lose, making the game as impersonal as possible.

However there are times when I have strongly felt the need to say something and have not. I can vividly remember playing Zerg and losing game after game to ridiculous Reaper rushes before the nerf. I don't mind playing vs cheese, but when I know it is coming and there is seemingly no counter it makes me angry. I was so angry I switched to Terran and did a Reaper rush vs a Zerg. I didn't even look up the build order, I just made Reapers. I did it to prove to myself that it was ridiculously easy to pull off, not because I was seeking a win, and it made me feel better to know that it wasn't me struggling with Zerg at that time.

Now I play Protoss, but ever since those days I've always felt a disdain for the Terran race. And that is natural, since playing vs Reaper rushes caused me to experience emotions I didn't enjoy. You dislike, or hate, things that make you unhappy. The moral of the story is that as long as some people perceive an imbalance in the game exists (and in this case I used an imbalance that was later fixed) that doesn't favor their race, people will hate playing vs a certain race.
SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
April 17 2012 04:01 GMT
#12
This applies to real life o.o
Who needs players when you have God?
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 17 2012 04:02 GMT
#13
There's no way that it will ever disappear.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 17 2012 04:07 GMT
#14
People are immature. Shit I used to do it too until I realized how retarded I sounded complaining like that about a video game.
As long as there are kids (and some adults :/) playing the game and no one can convince them otherwise, it will continue.
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Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
April 17 2012 04:07 GMT
#15
Higher level: more good manner. If you want to behave cordially like ur sparringf, gotta train to be able to spar with em.
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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
April 17 2012 04:08 GMT
#16
On April 17 2012 13:02 Jongl0 wrote:
There's no way that it will ever disappear.


This is true but if they can manage to make a more balanced game then you will see less of this type of hate.
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
April 17 2012 04:09 GMT
#17
No, and I hate Protoss.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 04:12:31
April 17 2012 04:11 GMT
#18
I hope it doesn't, adds more excitement watching your race hero taking down the *imba race* players. I don't even play the game anymore but I'll still watch a tournament to see *imba race* super star get taken out.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
April 17 2012 04:11 GMT
#19
Nope, I hate asians! err i mean...hehe =/...zerg are OP!
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 17 2012 04:11 GMT
#20
Fuck Terran. Otherwise, gogo. :p
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
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