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Will "Hating a certain Race" ever go away? - Page 16

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LloydRays
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
April 18 2012 05:38 GMT
#301
Nice thread OP. You know what? I'll say it; I think it can go away if we truly want it to.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
April 18 2012 05:53 GMT
#302
--- Nuked ---
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
April 18 2012 05:56 GMT
#303
No it wont because it's a fact that some races are easier at different levels, and it frustrates people that they have/had to work harder to get to the place they are at.

For example, mained Protoss since Bw and eventually for into masters. Then to mid masters, got bored and tried zerg. Took me one month to get into masters as Zerg. At that level, Zerg is easy as fuck, I couldn't believe it. Don't get me wrong, I understood the game very well. I never played Terran, but it seems the hardest race to master. And I stand objectively as I quit sc2 and don't care about all the bullshit. However when I say 'mastered' I don't mean one base cheeses all the time to masters.
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
April 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#304
To be honest, I don't want the race hate to disappear completely.
I like the tension between opposing sides.
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
April 18 2012 06:58 GMT
#305
as long as any game has any sort of race or class (or both), there will always be hatred. its sort of a microcosm of society as a whole.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
April 18 2012 07:22 GMT
#306
On April 18 2012 05:53 NotYetAWoman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 05:17 leather gracket wrote:
On April 18 2012 05:12 NotYetAWoman wrote:
Aslong as terran can get more money then their opponent by using some energy in a economic based RTS game, ill hate them. its actully funny in a way how people try to justify something as stupid as this.


as long as protoss and zerg can make way more workers in the same amount of time by using some energy in ... AN economic based RTS game......
So u agree? Terran has a huge advantage in lategame with the mules, considering they wont need as many workers and will have X amount more supply in army. Its a badly designed mechanic and should be removed/replaced with something else.


Oh yes, and do you see this "huge advantage in late game" for terran anywhere? GSL games? MLG games? Battle.net statistics?
pileopoop
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada317 Posts
April 18 2012 07:27 GMT
#307
On April 18 2012 16:22 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 05:53 NotYetAWoman wrote:
On April 18 2012 05:17 leather gracket wrote:
On April 18 2012 05:12 NotYetAWoman wrote:
Aslong as terran can get more money then their opponent by using some energy in a economic based RTS game, ill hate them. its actully funny in a way how people try to justify something as stupid as this.


as long as protoss and zerg can make way more workers in the same amount of time by using some energy in ... AN economic based RTS game......
So u agree? Terran has a huge advantage in lategame with the mules, considering they wont need as many workers and will have X amount more supply in army. Its a badly designed mechanic and should be removed/replaced with something else.


Oh yes, and do you see this "huge advantage in late game" for terran anywhere? GSL games? MLG games? Battle.net statistics?


Yes
SacredPancake
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia8 Posts
April 18 2012 08:05 GMT
#308
If there is a difference in a thing (in this case a race) then hatred will always occur between them
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
April 18 2012 08:07 GMT
#309
No, never.

Btw http://i.imgur.com/3YdYH.png
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
April 18 2012 08:17 GMT
#310
On April 18 2012 17:07 syriuszonito wrote:
No, never.

Btw http://i.imgur.com/3YdYH.png


It's clever - but not true at all. Do you think PvZ is just 2 players sitting in their base doing nothing? No pressure and no harrass? Even in PvT the protoss will often be the aggressor or the harrasser.

Yeah, I think there will always be the "race-hate" but I think for eSports it's actually good. In WoW in made so much tension that even talking to a few friends about it could get you all fired up (in a good way). I (as a protoss player) like when I'm sitting next to another P-player or even a T-player and complain about zerg. I also love talking to Z-players about banshees and drops. It's easy to just call "OP", because I think the game is pretty balanced. But some things are just really hard to handle, if you aren't prepared.
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imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 08:19:50
April 18 2012 08:19 GMT
#311
On April 18 2012 17:17 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 17:07 syriuszonito wrote:
No, never.

Btw http://i.imgur.com/3YdYH.png


It's clever - but not true at all. Do you think PvZ is just 2 players sitting in their base doing nothing? No pressure and no harrass? Even in PvT the protoss will often be the aggressor or the harrasser.

Yeah, I think there will always be the "race-hate" but I think for eSports it's actually good. In WoW in made so much tension that even talking to a few friends about it could get you all fired up (in a good way). I (as a protoss player) like when I'm sitting next to another P-player or even a T-player and complain about zerg. I also love talking to Z-players about banshees and drops. It's easy to just call "OP", because I think the game is pretty balanced. But some things are just really hard to handle, if you aren't prepared.


the whole point of the joke is that its a gross oversimplification

congrats on reading way too much into it

btw fuck terran i'll always hate them because of the way siege tanks evaporated everything for a majority of the beta and thats not even mentioning the way they could abuse early map pools
*eternalenvy fanboy*
bpat
Profile Joined September 2011
United States157 Posts
April 18 2012 08:25 GMT
#312
Probably not, since almost everyone is weak against a specific race. Leenock is great against Terran but struggles against Protoss, while Lucky is the exact opposite. Unless someone is equally good against all races they'll probably dislike the one they're weakest against.
IDEnergy
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)74 Posts
April 18 2012 08:27 GMT
#313
Unfortunately, until the perfect balance for all three races comes up, there is going to be QQ's from each race lol.
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SolveN
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada43 Posts
April 18 2012 08:44 GMT
#314
Even if you could prove that it's entirely irrational for any one race to dislike another race (which you can't because its a subjective subject) human beings do not act entirely rationally (some do more than others). Therefore there will always be race complaints and balance complaints.
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 08:51:54
April 18 2012 08:48 GMT
#315
No...even with perfect balance there will still be hate.

Blind hate = noobs that can't accept the fact they made mistakes and lost because of them...not because of the other player's race

Fan-hate = ppl who support fanatically 1 race, disconsidering the other 2.

Sports revolve arround fans. Fans of X hate Y. Hate makes sports what it is today. Hate is sadly a very important part of our society and it's even part of our evolution (historically).

It's like asking "Will slavery ever dissapear" when your iPhone (just an example) is made with components "farmed" by ppl exposed to slavery. Fail much? U are dependent on items made by slaves thus u are dependent on slaves. Same thing with hate....u just don't want to fully admit it or u don't see it.
U MAD BRO?
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
April 18 2012 18:10 GMT
#316
On April 18 2012 14:21 LavaLava wrote:
I realize a lot of people are being funny, but I frankly still cannot believe the number of responses to this thread that are basically "fuck T/Z/P".

You'd think people would be a little self conscious about race hate in a thread about how it's idiotic and killing esports and everything.

But it's 40% full of people simply justifying it. Hah, wow.

Exactly my thoughts, but it makes more sense when you spend a day on the NA ladder.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 18 2012 18:12 GMT
#317
For me the hate came from terrans telling me i didn't play zerg correctly, this was during the time of mass reapers and 3 range roach :p not to mention pre tank-nerf.
BlitchizSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States306 Posts
April 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#318
Keep dreaming.
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Prospero
Profile Joined September 2011
United States183 Posts
April 18 2012 18:19 GMT
#319
Why would it? Some people are going to dislike certain races, both as an opponent and their mechanics.
Infinite Lurker
Profile Joined January 2011
United States24 Posts
April 18 2012 18:48 GMT
#320
People will continue to hate certain races because each race has weaknesses in certain areas. When people see their opponents exploiting the strong points of their race, aspects that are probably weaker in one's own race, they get mad.

That aside though, brood war was once 50 times less balanced that SC2, if you look at the differences between the DPS, the spell-casters, and the build times. Any race that complains about EMP/fungal/storm should realize they're variations on an AoE damage spell. Comparing and balancing the powerful brood war abilities like swarm, plague, irradiate, storm, and recall impressed me a lot more than the balance changes in unit range and stuff like that.
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