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Will "Hating a certain Race" ever go away? - Page 15

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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
April 18 2012 00:27 GMT
#281
This sort of hate and BM will always be there no matter what game you play really. Whether it be COD or Starcraft one or 2 or even TF2 or something, people will always bitch when they lose.
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
_Jupiter_
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada9 Posts
April 18 2012 00:43 GMT
#282
I kind of doubt that racial discrimination will ever go away in the game. Players will always have a tougher time against a certain race at certain times even if they are a GSL champion. It is only natural to blame the game rather than blame oneself for a loss. I personally have a love-hate relationship for terran. As a protoss player I tend to really hate terran, yet I usually secretly hope I play them because terrans are usually very predictable at platinum level so it usually means an easy win unless I really screw up.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
April 18 2012 00:47 GMT
#283
On April 18 2012 09:43 _Jupiter_ wrote:
I kind of doubt that racial discrimination will ever go away in the game. Players will always have a tougher time against a certain race at certain times even if they are a GSL champion. It is only natural to blame the game rather than blame oneself for a loss. I personally have a love-hate relationship for terran. As a protoss player I tend to really hate terran, yet I usually secretly hope I play them because terrans are usually very predictable at platinum level so it usually means an easy win unless I really screw up.

It's also natural to take a crap in the street, but people wait till they get to a bathroom. Learned behavior. Saying you hate terran because they beat you is frankly pathetic.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 01:15:42
April 18 2012 01:12 GMT
#284
On April 17 2012 23:00 Naxx wrote:
Maybe when protoss get more than 70 apm in high master i will try to get some respect


Over-generalized statement is over-generalized.

i have 130+ new-sc2 apm at the end of a game, and 200+ normal apm, being mid through high masters. can you respect protoss now? no? thought so. people with this mentality wouldn't respect protoss even when If I outplay them on every turn, in a macro game, on a horrible protoss map like Dual Site. you're simply blinded by ignorance to protect your ego

APM/multitasking =/= race
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 18 2012 01:21 GMT
#285
Whenever I lose in SC2 I don't lose to skillful players, I lose to the Protoss Deathball.+ Show Spoiler +
No it won't go away, people will always find a way to blame their losses on the race they are playing against, for zerg its the protoss deathball. for Protoss its the massroach rush stephano style etc.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
April 18 2012 01:24 GMT
#286
Everyone has a bad matchup an people hate what they can't wrap their head around. So nope I dont forsee good race relations in SC2 in the near future
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 18 2012 01:25 GMT
#287
On April 18 2012 10:21 Integra wrote:
Whenever I lose in SC2 I don't lose to skillful players, I lose to the Protoss Deathball.+ Show Spoiler +
No it won't go away, people will always find a way to blame their losses on the race they are playing against, for zerg its the protoss deathball. for Protoss its the massroach rush stephano style etc.


and terran doesn't need to because they don't lose

idk its kinda fun to bash races as long as its all in good humor (which cant actually be guaranteed -__-)
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
April 18 2012 01:28 GMT
#288
Protoss is a sad race.
God Young ho
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
April 18 2012 01:28 GMT
#289
well white people are still OP so probably not
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
April 18 2012 01:31 GMT
#290
I think its fine to hate another race. It creates drama which prevents things from getting too boring
Life's good :D
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 18 2012 01:32 GMT
#291
race hate is childish and stupid, whats next hating james bond new jacket?
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
April 18 2012 01:35 GMT
#292
i race hate on ladder cause i obviously feel butthurt from every all in. even in mirror i still flame my opponent, then block them. but in reality, i know the loss is 100% my fault. there is nothing to blame in a 1v1 game like sc2

but yeah, i wouldnt do it at a lan ever, i know its just a game, sometimes, its just relaxing to exchange words online just dont take it seriously
Jar Jar Binks
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
April 18 2012 01:41 GMT
#293
On April 18 2012 04:27 CosmicHippo wrote:
what kind of question is this


I didn't expect everyone to understand the context that made me bring up this question.

I also don't expect anyone to fully understand until you play a lot on the NA ladder as Protoss, and then go play on the Korean ladder a lot as Protoss. I can say I've only been "bmed" on the korean ladder (and by BM I mean the spew of hangul beforre they leave) 2-3 times. On NA though? I can factually say hundreds of times. This is in master league too >.>

The culture differences/ way the two cultures look at the game is the main issue. My question's context was, why the fuck can't we be like koreans and not be whiny douches on ladder?
Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
April 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#294
I don't hate people who play a race I dislike playing.

It's a little hard to hate Zerg when I play Zerg. ZvZ is my absolute worst and most hated matchup.
Beorning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States243 Posts
April 18 2012 02:37 GMT
#295
No. Fucking pylons, all over the fucking place.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
April 18 2012 02:39 GMT
#296
I don't GG protosses most of the time, I just can't help it, I just hate protoss. If the reaver was in I'd probably be playing them though.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
April 18 2012 03:34 GMT
#297
People are always going to hate on the race that they lose the most to. I don't think metagame matters very much compared to personal matchups. For example, Idra has always hated Protoss. He hated on P when ZvP was 40-60 in favor of P, and he continues to hate on P even though the metagame has now shifted closer to 60-40 in favor of Z. Its no surprise that ZvP has consistently been his worst matchup over time. While Idra is also known for his Teran hate back in the beta, he's much more muted about it now because his ZvT wlr has improved dramatically.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 03:52:39
April 18 2012 03:50 GMT
#298
Will "Hating a certain Race" ever go away?

No, i dont think it will ever go away.
It seems to be embedded not only in starcraft, but in a whole generation of internet users,
It relates verry much to the age of people, you will see this alot less with people above a certain age.
Unfortunatly the age-group where this mainly comes from is also the loudest.

My personal hope for our community is that eventually the hatred in game, on a personal level, will go away with time. When someone is losing he will stop blaming it on balance and instead focus on the mistakes he made during the game

I do share your wish but not your hope, extrapolating the trend seen over the past 5-10 years one can conclude that it will only get worse unfortunatly.
Better grow a thick skin and avoid getting personally involved with annyone.


Nice thread btw,
The title seems dull somehow but i realy like the op.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
April 18 2012 04:27 GMT
#299
Seems kind of immature to hate a certain race lol. If one race was much easier or stronger it would show in tournament results. Yet we see that all races win tournaments and that the top 8 generally are pretty even.

Some MU's can be frustrating at times though. At the moment mass roach seems almost impossible to deal with as protoss and I understand that lategame TvP is hard atm.
LavaLava
Profile Joined January 2012
United States235 Posts
April 18 2012 05:21 GMT
#300
I realize a lot of people are being funny, but I frankly still cannot believe the number of responses to this thread that are basically "fuck T/Z/P".

You'd think people would be a little self conscious about race hate in a thread about how it's idiotic and killing esports and everything.

But it's 40% full of people simply justifying it. Hah, wow.
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