EPTWill "Hating a certain Race" ever go away? - Page 18
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
The most hated race has always been Terran. I blame Blizzard for this because how strong they made Terran's early game compared to the other two races. Protoss have glaring difficulties defending against mass mass unit counts. Zerg has difficulty getting anti air. Protoss lack good harassment tools. Zerg lack siege weapons until late late game. Both protoss and zerg lack good detection capabilities in the early game. While Terran gets everything and are relatively cheese-proof since the release of the game. Now, I do not think Terrans are as OP as they used to be and I'm not sure how much better they really are in the current build of the game. However, there's still residual hate for that race due to how broken they were historically. | ||
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SlackerSC
Australia41 Posts
Don't blame the races, blame your own play.. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On April 19 2012 11:26 Kenshi235 wrote: Maybe they should change the way Protoss works so P HAS to micro. This will help solve issue at masters lvl AND give pros more options for things they can do better in fights at highest lvl. That way both races can try to reach their maximum potential with micro. Currently the best and worst thing about Protoss is there is little micro involved relative to T. Balance matters across all levels, that is why they nerfed void rays. If all the active players on ladder only have PvX, ZvX, the game will be less enjoyable and find less reason to WATCH high level games. No RTS makes sense if 1 race (terran) has to react to everything Z and P make past 10-15 mins for 90% of all games, while the Z/P gets to dip and dap into w/e unit composition they want to "throw off Terran". It should be a 2-way street and 90% of time it is not. Part of this is due to metagame, but its still sickeningly true. How many games do u have where the P lost b/c he "didn't see battlecruisers or sky terran or mech transition coming?" + Show Spoiler + First off, 2 things, 1 Z is mostly a reactionary race, not T, T dictates the game, if they are not, they are failing. 2 As T you should have done a strong pressure build early to catch P off guard or force them to react and MICRO and not just turtle because P late game is strong. Continuing on, P is strong late game, they are weak early game, and then they have all their tech units late game, lets see what terran has usually? Tier 1, thats right, vs. what? Tier 3! Gasp, its almost as if the Protoss has a tech advantage that you are whining about that was easily exploitable in the mid game and early game. Their tier 3 also is very slow, i wonder how we could exploit this feature? DROPS, DING DING DING! Also your basic mechanism is, *Picks most micro intensive race that benefits the most from micro*, *Ladders*, *complains about how he has to micro more than another race* I have spoiled the above text because it could be seen as trollish, please be warned  PvT late game can be very difficult for Toss if terran plays the game correctly in the early to midgame, you have to pressure and dictate the flow of the game as terran, thats how GSL players win, thats how all terrans usually do win. The reason anyone complains is because they seem to be unable to reach the gold standard, the S class and so therefore they either admit they are bad, or complain about a reason they aren't a pro player. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Win against a race you don't play -> They sucked Lose to the same race -> Terribly balanced coin-flip game Win against the same race -> Terribly balanced coin-flip game That's basically how it works, and it looks even more stupid when people do it in large groups (people seem to think yelling louder or more often makes them right). | ||
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freewareplayer
Germany403 Posts
They were and are and always will be the scum of sc2. Balance is not enough, i demand justice, give us an equivalent for 5 rax reaper for about 2 month etc etc. Scumbag terrans D: | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On April 19 2012 14:33 freewareplayer wrote: I just love to hate Terran. They were and are and always will be the scum of sc2. Balance is not enough, i demand justice, give us an equivalent for 5 rax reaper for about 2 month etc etc. Scumbag terrans D: Your post warms my black cold Terran-hating heart. <3 BTW, I want to see MKP cry again. He's a phenomenal player that probably deserves his own GSL win....but he represents everything I hate about Terran. | ||
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DecisionTheory
78 Posts
People just need to realize that they are the problem, not the game! Fix yourself before trying to blame other causes. | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
I could be totally wrong though because I read a lot more sc2 LR and comments, but this is just the impression I get. I guess what I am saying, is that I have hope that everything will even out with time, and people can stop saying X race A move, X race has OP unit with ez build and so on and so on... | ||
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PenguinWithNuke
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DecisionTheory
78 Posts
On April 19 2012 14:50 PenguinWithNuke wrote: Race hating is a part of Starcraft. After all, the insult "Protoss can just 1a2a3a" has survived to this day. That should be proof enough. Trying to exterminate BM and race hate is like trying to exterminate stupidity. You probably won't be successful. Totally agree with everything in this post! And I especially like the last two sentences! | ||
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ZergMaestro
United States169 Posts
 (die protoss)but now I play all the races, zerg a bit more then the others. Love em all. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On April 19 2012 14:50 PenguinWithNuke wrote: Race hating is a part of Starcraft. After all, the insult "Protoss can just 1a2a3a" has survived to this day. That should be proof enough. Trying to exterminate BM and race hate is like trying to exterminate stupidity. You probably won't be successful. What do you need the 2a3a part for?  Just kidding! Don't hurt me! I really recommend everyone should try playing all three races for a bit - I played Random for 4 months and struggled a LOT. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On April 19 2012 15:12 FairForever wrote: What do you need the 2a3a part for? Just kidding! Don't hurt me! I really recommend everyone should try playing all three races for a bit - I played Random for 4 months and struggled a LOT. Because you can't hotkey all your units onto one key! You can use up to 36 units as protoss in brood war to crush your competition! It's all you need! | ||
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probob
Germany227 Posts
To top it off they also whine the most. Only thing that makes me happy is that I dont have to play zvz, but they have to ^_^ It will never go away as you can see in this thread. | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On April 19 2012 15:36 Son of Gnome wrote: I honestly hate protoss from the bottom of my starcraft heart, it all started with their complaining about imbalance when tvp was just fine. Now terran has been nerfed to all hell and tvp is a joke. pvz is also a joke protoss either a two base all ins or b turtles to deathball and wins. I honestly can not watch any protoss other than a select few just because it is so damn mind numbing. As you can see its not going away anytime soon. so you hate protoss players for complaining about the m/u a year ago when protoss pro's were usually <45% w/r in the m/u? not to mention back then Terrans usually accounted for 50%+ of the GSL players? and now you yourself are complaining about the matchup while terrans still have a >50% w/r in the matchup at the pro level? (excuse me, they had *cough* 64% w/r in tvp last month) | ||
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
Marines too OP  | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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