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Will "Hating a certain Race" ever go away? - Page 3

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ThirdDegree
Profile Joined February 2011
United States329 Posts
April 17 2012 04:50 GMT
#41
I don't hate terrans, I just hate the rampant one base all ins on ladder
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unknownGamer
Profile Joined April 2012
288 Posts
April 17 2012 04:51 GMT
#42
On April 17 2012 13:21 AegiS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 12:56 Amaterasu1234 wrote:
I just say I hate protoss players 'cause they chose the easy race...

I don't actually mean any of it.

I understand that it takes skill to play the race...but with how they roll me like I'm a scrub, I have to lash out somehow...'cause I think it's dumb how 5 colossi make it look like I picked up the game two days ago...


did they? what if they had not played any brood war (like myself) and picked protoss (i picked zerg initially, but say I did pick protoss) while knowing absolutely nothing about starcraft other than 1 commentary I saw on youtube? i didn't even play the campaign. had never seen a brood war vod.

and most people stick with the race they initially chose. and that initial decision is most of the time, not based on balance as you don't know what balance is when you're just starting out. I have trouble thinking of a pro-gamer that consistently switches races when theirs becomes weak.. why? cause if you are constantly switching races you will end up sucking compared to the ones who stuck with their initial choice 100%.

thus, the mentality of "They chose the easy race on purpose" needs to go, IMO.

Ever check the B.net forums? After terrans got nerfed to hit a near 50% win rate (which is statistically balance), so many of them switch to another race after their "pressure" builds got nerfed. Not saying everyone, but there are people who will do anything to get win rates and get to a highlevel just to boost their own ego. Pretty pathetic tbh.
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
April 17 2012 04:51 GMT
#43
It's just the integrity of how the players play that piss each other off. PvT strongly favors protoss metagame and early aggression, prompting many protoss players to abuse that and make terrans rage. ZvP favors roach timings from zerg who abuse that and cause protoss to rage.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
April 17 2012 04:51 GMT
#44
As someone said, this has been around since BW. It's just natural to hate a race that you seem to do worse against PP
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Lite Kirby
Profile Joined November 2005
United States74 Posts
April 17 2012 04:51 GMT
#45
Its never going to go away. I have to quit a game that I love to play because people threaten to kill my family because I play protoss. I can't ask other people on ladder to be practice partners because the vast majority of NA server players (in my own experience) are immature and bad mannered towards me regardless of the progression and outcome of every game. The community still thinks this is acceptable decorum and it saddens me that everyone is so okay with things like this happening daily. I guess ladder brings out the worst in people.
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PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
April 17 2012 04:52 GMT
#46
In real life sports I know alot of people "hate' the other nations teams in international competition. But it's not real hate its just a symbolic enemy to rally against.

It's just humans wanting somewhere to direct their hatred at to distract from their own failings, and the failings of the teams and players they root for.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 17 2012 04:53 GMT
#47
My honest thought is that if Dota can have 100 heroes and people still harbor an intense hatred of antimage what chance does SC2 have with only 3 races?

Also it has existed since the dawn of time*

*Brood War's release
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 17 2012 04:53 GMT
#48
On April 17 2012 13:41 Misoza wrote:
It's called tribalism.

A memory of our more primitive beginnings, it is ingrained in human nature.

The effects of it can be seen everywhere, from sports to politics.

It will never go away, however the more mature and self-aware a player is, the more they can control it.

It really isn't. It's people avoiding having to admit their own flaws and using imbalance as an excuse.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 17 2012 04:54 GMT
#49
Welcome to games and competition? The point is that it's NOT something personal, it's just another way for people to take sides, otherwise known as a team. This happens in all levels of society but at least here everyone should know not to take it very seriously.
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jeffvip
Profile Joined June 2011
211 Posts
April 17 2012 04:55 GMT
#50
On April 17 2012 13:29 R3DT1D3 wrote:
I hate protoss as a race because it's terribly designed, boring to play as, and boring to watch. Couple that with the overabundance of Protoss players in the foreign scene compared to Terrans or Zerg and I just can't stand Protoss.

I loved all the races in BW and I don't have the same level of malice directed at any other RTS faction but Protoss just annoys me in as many ways as it can. I don't take it out on players though (unless they complain) and enough of the really casual players that chose their race based on easiness and cheese strategies are mostly gone playing other games.


+1
Exactly what I want to say. I love playing & watching Protoss in BW but Protoss of SC2 is just too ugly for me. I reckon Blizzard need to do something here.
Marine is Terran strongest unit but it might be Terran's biggest weakness. Bcos of Marine so OP, other Terran unit regrettably have to be weak..
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 17 2012 04:57 GMT
#51
What is the point of this thread? "It'd be nice if people were nicer to each other"?
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
April 17 2012 04:57 GMT
#52
Racism sucks
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 17 2012 04:59 GMT
#53
only when terran goes away.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
April 17 2012 05:00 GMT
#54
No I don't think so. It's a young community so immaturity is abundant. I play Random and people hate me even though I don't actually play a race. I have gotten the "faggot [insert race]" plenty of times when I randomly was selected that race.
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AuzStarCraft
Profile Joined April 2012
United States4 Posts
April 17 2012 05:00 GMT
#55
This is gaming in general, and to a greater extent, anything that is competitive by nature. People never like to feel that they themselves are at fault when they are being outperformed by another. This mentality is similar to in sports, when a player will attribute their loss to the other team having a "hometown advantage" when in reality they were simply outplayed.

I doubt we will ever see an alteration in this mindset, as it is so embedded in our greater culture. I guess my response is to lead by example, by which I try to remain well mannered at all times, and wish the other play good luck, good game, ect. with the hopes that my manners will, in a way, rub off..
"Always be tactful and well-mannered and teach your subordinates to do the same. Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." - Erwin Rommel
blinken
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada368 Posts
April 17 2012 05:02 GMT
#56
My personal hope is that they include a racial preference, just like map preference.

The thought of never playing PvP again would increase the amount I ladder 10 fold.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
April 17 2012 05:02 GMT
#57
Unless they switch to a 1 race system... no
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 17 2012 05:07 GMT
#58
No, never. Thats just the way it is.
If it was otherwise, game would be boring.
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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
April 17 2012 05:16 GMT
#59
yes, when protoss units cost money :D
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SlackerSC
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia41 Posts
April 17 2012 05:16 GMT
#60
Reminds me a lot of this great video
+ Show Spoiler +





Anyways I don't think it's ever going to go away. If you spend a lot of time playing a single race you're only ever getting one view point on your matches.. If you were to always play random, there is probably far less of a deep seated hatred for other races.

For example, as a protoss I tend to focus on moments where I've lost games and thought "This is bullshit all he did was stim and a-move up my ramp", or "Jesus all he has to do is make 200 supply of roaches and a-move them", rather than focusing on the times when I've decimated bioballs with storm or a-moved 5 collosus into a roach ball..

If you think another race is OP and 'the easy race for noobs' you should probably spend a few weeks playing that race.. You'll find it's not always greener on the other side..

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