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Matchmaking Changes Reverted - Page 14

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Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 15:54:06
April 21 2012 13:03 GMT
#261
Im mid/high masters i dont get this I get favored/slightly favored who are my lvl or above and get +2 - +4 for beating them and in case i loose i get like -25 its retarded.. i can get 10 win streak for 20 and loose once to get -20

EDIT: these whole point gains/losses seem way off .. i see some people on ladder with records like 25-1 having 300 points and guy above him is 320 points and record 27-24 this is just silly.
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 21 2012 13:08 GMT
#262
I don't think they reverted it, I'm around mid master and I faced diamonds and high masters when normally I'd almost exclusively face people around my level. I lost -1 for a game, and got +21 for another game, so it really seems like the range of opponents is still quite broad. Also, it's really annoying being favored in a zvz because I seem to constantly encounter all-ins and it makes ladder really frustrating sometimes...
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Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
April 21 2012 13:12 GMT
#263
Probably have to wait for tuesday maintenance to roll around to have this fixed. Kind of funny, I am in diamond and I play a masters player one game, then a platinum, then a diamond player the next; it makes so much sense.
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
April 21 2012 18:48 GMT
#264
It's not reverted on Europe at least and I hate that new system sooooooo much.
I don't see the point of having 1/3 of my games against awful players and 1/3 against players that definitely find me awful.
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ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
April 21 2012 18:52 GMT
#265
I don't htink they reverted it either. I am facing so many diamonds. and then I get roflstomped by higher masters lol.
oshy89
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
April 21 2012 19:07 GMT
#266
I can't believe that it's been changed back, in plat myself and my past 30 games or so have been against players ranging from silver to diamond. Including silvers who have been playing silvers, diamonds who have been playing diamonds, and just about everything in between.

In previous seasons the majority of games have felt very close, but a lot of these games are very one sided, just wish I could be playing people at my level for most games.
ultimfier
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada29 Posts
April 21 2012 20:23 GMT
#267
yeah i played a masters and a plat in consecutive matches yesterday.

I actually REALLY like the broad range of opponents as I like seeing what I do wrong when I get CRUSHED by people.
playing people right around your skill level is going to cause you to plateau significantly faster than playing people further away from your skill level
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Zeetee
Profile Joined December 2010
United States153 Posts
April 21 2012 20:59 GMT
#268
playing a 650+ point masters (pretty damn high 2 weeks into the season) and then a platinum player back to back. yeah, nothing suspicious about the match maker at all.


i wonder if blizzard made a legitimate mistake in failing to revert the changes, or if they actually just thought we wouldn't notice?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
April 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#269
On April 22 2012 05:59 Zeetee wrote:
playing a 650+ point masters (pretty damn high 2 weeks into the season) and then a platinum player back to back. yeah, nothing suspicious about the match maker at all.


i wonder if blizzard made a legitimate mistake in failing to revert the changes, or if they actually just thought we wouldn't notice?


You are lucky, my spread is even match vs other diamond and on the top end a 600+ master leaguer :/

I wish I could play platinum from time to time
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NoBanMeAgain
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States194 Posts
April 21 2012 21:11 GMT
#270
i am a silver and gold player and i really enjoyed playing against some good plat and diamond players. got some good replays and i think it was worthwile for blizzard to try it.
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give.ViviD
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden235 Posts
April 21 2012 21:18 GMT
#271
Ive been playing against people who recently got promoted to masters, I haven't played people in low masters for like 10 months, so yeah they've fucked up the matchmaking. It's definitely not reverted.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
April 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#272
On April 21 2012 22:03 Veriol wrote:
Im mid/high masters i dont get this I get favored/slightly favored who are my lvl or above and get +2 - +4 for beating them and in case i loose i get like -25 its retarded.. i can get 10 win streak for 20 and loose once to get -20

EDIT: these whole point gains/losses seem way off .. i see some people on ladder with records like 25-1 having 300 points and guy above him is 320 points and record 27-24 this is just silly.


Dear lord this is annoying. I'm having such a hard time gaining any points because a single loss brings me back 10 games.
Cereal
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 22 2012 13:10 GMT
#273
Do we have any official word about the matchmaking system being reverted on EU?
It sure doesn't feel like it from the range of players I've been playing. I personally really like it though but I do understand the frustration of the poster above.
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
April 22 2012 14:04 GMT
#274
On April 21 2012 22:03 Veriol wrote:
Im mid/high masters i dont get this I get favored/slightly favored who are my lvl or above and get +2 - +4 for beating them and in case i loose i get like -25 its retarded.. i can get 10 win streak for 20 and loose once to get -20

EDIT: these whole point gains/losses seem way off .. i see some people on ladder with records like 25-1 having 300 points and guy above him is 320 points and record 27-24 this is just silly.


Completely agree. This is yet another point where it would have been better to just implement the system of warcraft 3.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
April 22 2012 14:35 GMT
#275
On April 22 2012 23:04 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 22:03 Veriol wrote:
Im mid/high masters i dont get this I get favored/slightly favored who are my lvl or above and get +2 - +4 for beating them and in case i loose i get like -25 its retarded.. i can get 10 win streak for 20 and loose once to get -20

EDIT: these whole point gains/losses seem way off .. i see some people on ladder with records like 25-1 having 300 points and guy above him is 320 points and record 27-24 this is just silly.


Completely agree. This is yet another point where it would have been better to just implement the system of warcraft 3.

what is that system?
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Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 14:43:09
April 22 2012 14:40 GMT
#276
On April 22 2012 05:23 ultimfier wrote:
yeah i played a masters and a plat in consecutive matches yesterday.

I actually REALLY like the broad range of opponents as I like seeing what I do wrong when I get CRUSHED by people.
playing people right around your skill level is going to cause you to plateau significantly faster than playing people further away from your skill level


You will plateau as well the difference is you won't notice it as much because you will play against worse opponents more often. If your aim is to get better it's way more beneficial to have a constant stream of even opponents than having a fluctuation of skilled and unskilled opponents.

On April 22 2012 23:04 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 22:03 Veriol wrote:
Im mid/high masters i dont get this I get favored/slightly favored who are my lvl or above and get +2 - +4 for beating them and in case i loose i get like -25 its retarded.. i can get 10 win streak for 20 and loose once to get -20

EDIT: these whole point gains/losses seem way off .. i see some people on ladder with records like 25-1 having 300 points and guy above him is 320 points and record 27-24 this is just silly.


Completely agree. This is yet another point where it would have been better to just implement the system of warcraft 3.


Why? The matchmaking before the changes was so much better than Warcraft 3 matchmaking. In fact the changes make the matchmaking more like the Warcraft 3 matchmaking where it was very common to play against a lot of different skill levels and ladder turned into a emotional rollercoaster because you either got stomped or stomped on someone while having an even skilled opponent wasn't the norm at all.
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jimbob615
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Uruguay455 Posts
April 22 2012 14:54 GMT
#277
also getting weird weird opponents... thought i was approaching masters because i was playing a few. but then it turns out it's just the messed up ladder system. honestly blizzard, WTF were u thinking?? hate the new range. give me equally skilled opponents or give me death.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
April 22 2012 15:05 GMT
#278
well, i´m plat, and i´m getting silver, gold, plat and diamond players...a littel bit stupid^^
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KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
April 22 2012 15:26 GMT
#279
Half the games are much too easy, half are much too hard.
No idea how anyone could think it makes laddering more interesting.
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teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
April 22 2012 15:36 GMT
#280
Im just curious as to what difference it makes to your MMR? If you drop 4 or 5 games in a row to favored opponents does your MMR just get tanked? If so, that would be stupid...
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