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Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
April 17 2012 20:33 GMT
#221
So, I'm not sure I believe that the changes have really been reverted. In my last four games - you can check my match history if you want (zennith.872) I have played a rank 4 masters who finished last season top 8 (he was favored), followed by a rank 1 diamond this season (I was favored), followed by a rank 1 masters who was in GM last season (he was favored), followed by a rank 11 diamond player (I was favored).

This makes no sense if they've really reverted the changes - and I have 2000+ wins on the account, so my mmr should be pretty stable...
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 03:21:55
April 18 2012 03:21 GMT
#222
They did not revert the changes. It's pretty obvious that it's not back to the way it was. Or they just said they reverted them but actually put it somewhere in between the new and old settings.
Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
April 18 2012 14:00 GMT
#223
I’m also a bit suspicious about the ‘reverted’ ladder matching.

I’m a low Diamond… my 4 games last night:
Low plat
Low plat
Mid diamond
High gold

I just came off a winning streak… how does that make any sense? Why would I be playing a high gold who was on a 5 game losing streak.. and was pretty mediocre record prior to that?
I hadn’t faced a gold prior to last night in MONTHS and that includes when I was in platinum and went on 10 or 12 game losing streaks… Now I’m diamond on a winning streak and I face a gold? Seriously?
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
April 18 2012 22:27 GMT
#224
All this was good for is showing me that the skill gap between the top of bronze and the middle of platinum is almost nonexistent.
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
April 18 2012 22:34 GMT
#225
i also get the feeling change hasn't been reverted, and if in fact they have tampered with it, they only changed it back slightly

my opponents league/skill range is just too funky...

EU server
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 01:17:19
April 20 2012 01:16 GMT
#226
Lol. Matchmaking changes were reverted and now i go from beating a rank 11 master zerg to beating a rank 50ish diamond terran? Uh? Is that how it was before???

edit: they both had 30+ games so its not like they have yet to re-rank this season.
Inno pls...
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
April 20 2012 01:21 GMT
#227
I just went from playing a mid masters guy to then facing aTnCloud

good times
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Bidj
Profile Joined September 2010
France98 Posts
April 20 2012 01:25 GMT
#228
Yeah, it seems to me too that it has not been reverted (Europe, high diamond playing people from mid plat to low master).
Rooooaaaar
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
April 20 2012 03:47 GMT
#229
Europe Master, the changes have almost certainly NOT been reverted!
In my last few matches, I got matched against two opponents that had huge variance in their match history. One of them had a game where he lost 2 points (so his opponent had much higher mmr than his adjusted points) and followed a game where he lost 16 points (so his opponent was pretty lower mmr than his adjusted points.
Another opponent had -3 and -15.
Myself I had +5 and +22 (adjusted points. no bonus pool involved).

These were all during evening times on EU, not crazy hours where few people are online. 7-10 pm.

Either Blizzard is secretly playing around with the parameters, or they haven't reverted them back on EU at all.
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
April 20 2012 03:55 GMT
#230
Definitely not reverted. Playing anywhere from t8 Masters to t100 Diamond, have played maybe three or four even matches in the last two days. I'm t50 Masters, NA.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
April 20 2012 03:59 GMT
#231
Yeah, not reverted. I'm top master, usually play high master/GM but then i play low master... wtf? I even got a diamond i got 1 point for beating 2 days ago...
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
April 20 2012 04:05 GMT
#232
My games these days have been (I'm mid-masters)

High masters
High Diamond
High masters
High Diamond


savior & jaedong
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 20 2012 04:12 GMT
#233
whether it is reverted or not, i am all for it. shorter search times for mildly better or lesser opponents is good.
The Show of a Lifetime
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 20 2012 04:23 GMT
#234
I wouldnt mind being crushed by some GM players, would learn a lot from watching the replays Didn't run into anyone except in my league unfortunately
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
bro_fenix
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
April 20 2012 04:47 GMT
#235
Good change, pro players were probably getting some unsatisfactory practice, and it wasn't much difference for me. Got stomped some, which could be helpful, by looking at opponent's play.
Life isnt about waiting for the storm to pass... Its about learning to dance in the rain.
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
April 20 2012 04:50 GMT
#236
i like crushing people worse than me
Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
April 20 2012 05:09 GMT
#237
hrmm.. tough to tell. I have been matching vs masters players (I am high diamond). Not sure if it is because of funky MM or if I am actually improving.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 20 2012 05:11 GMT
#238
I got the best so far.

Every game I have vs'd someone who is favored/slightly favored. When i win I get like 2-3 points only because they say that I am the one who was favored or w/e.

Same thing if neither side is favored, I win and I get told I was favored or I lose -20 because I was favored.

I've fought masters/diamonds/platinums(What the fuck...) in my last 30 or so matches. Up and down and all over the place.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
April 20 2012 05:14 GMT
#239
i really liked the diverse 1v1 skills on ladder, now its back to being work, and i just want to have fun.
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
April 20 2012 05:41 GMT
#240
Why don't we have an option to choose if we want this diverse rage on or not. Some people may like it.
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