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Progfather
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland7 Posts
April 14 2012 20:35 GMT
#201
On April 14 2012 11:13 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Weirdly enough, from the start of season 7, I, a low bronze nublet, ended up on a 17 game winning streak.

I'm not sure if I got some freaky, freaky draw there or something, but it doesn't seem right that I ended up absolutely roflstomping the ladder during a time when I should have been given stronger opponents.



I had a pretty much opposite experience. Won 5 matches at first but then faced only golds and silvers and I am not either so I ended up on huge losing streaks and winning only 2 out of 10 matches for a long time.
Powerstrike
Profile Joined July 2010
50 Posts
April 14 2012 23:47 GMT
#202
oh sad i used to bash bronze newbs ( im rank 2 master last s ) in 4v4 whole night, it was fun :D
Kaeljin
Profile Joined February 2012
Mexico25 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 04:33:38
April 15 2012 04:32 GMT
#203
They should keep the matchmaking system, but use it in a more clever way like:

80% of the matches of the same level or league
10% against higher levels
10% against lower leagues

That way you could at least test if you are on par with higher levels considering you are in the top 8 of your division.

Bangara Rufio!
RiPPy
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway23 Posts
April 15 2012 04:39 GMT
#204
Good thing they changed it back, for me atleast.

I had a day i only played alot less skilled people which led to huge mmr gain, next day i was only matches with people way better so i dropped right back.... to wide selection of people you could be matched with which made it kinda random if u meet to good players all day or to bad players all day.
CamoPillbox
Profile Joined April 2012
Czech Republic229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 18:03:59
April 15 2012 18:02 GMT
#205
I want = - + system
1.match even
2.me favored
3. unfavored
and even favored ufavored again again and all will be happy and me tooo please ......
Czech Terran(Hots) player
DoubleDare
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada48 Posts
April 15 2012 18:37 GMT
#206
The problem was that you didn't know when you were playing someone significantly better/weaker than you.
It's not the same thing as playing against a friend you know is a lower league than you, if I go into a game and have to spend 10 minutes determining how much worse a player is than me, I'm going to continue using my regular play incase he isn't worse. And in the case of 'better' players, it's often hard to determine whether he's just a high member of your league or much higher than you until it's too late. And better players are often much better at abusing openings (holes) in weaker players strategies, so it can be challenging to know whether or not your build is bad, your macro was bad, or your strategy is bad, because those are all exploitable.

If there was a big icon on the loading screen saying like, "this player is majorly favoured" and it did the same thing in the replay or something, then I would think it's a great change. I also think you should have lost no points to playing better players, as many people in this thread, myself included, went on big losing streaks to players ahead of us.
(I lost 7 games in a row to low masters players, but I ended up feeling really shitty because I wasn't entirely sure whether it was them outplaying me or me underperforming.)

All in all, happy to see it go, but I wish they had executed it better because I feel like it could be a beneficial to laddering, except to the top top pros, it just sucks for them. Maybe top 8 masters + GM shouldn't have it if the reimplement in the future?
Chilltosis forever. P{HuK, TAiLs, WhiteRa} Z{Sen, Nestea}
RiPPy
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway23 Posts
April 15 2012 21:48 GMT
#207
I dont know why but suddenly i have lost for 2 days even after they removed it and i dropped down a league, a league which i had no problem getting into before.. good job blizz, fucking with something that was fine to begin with imo.....
excellionx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 22:02:01
April 15 2012 22:00 GMT
#208
wow, that sucks.. sort of preferred the new system

playing opponents better than you = better practice, though being on the contrary side it's kind of nerve-wrecking
Bkennedy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
April 15 2012 22:02 GMT
#209
On April 16 2012 06:48 RiPPy wrote:
I dont know why but suddenly i have lost for 2 days even after they removed it and i dropped down a league, a league which i had no problem getting into before.. good job blizz, fucking with something that was fine to begin with imo.....


That literally has NOTHING to do with Blizzard. It's your fault you got demoted.
RiPPy
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 22:08:55
April 15 2012 22:08 GMT
#210
On April 16 2012 07:02 XenocideFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:48 RiPPy wrote:
I dont know why but suddenly i have lost for 2 days even after they removed it and i dropped down a league, a league which i had no problem getting into before.. good job blizz, fucking with something that was fine to begin with imo.....


That literally has NOTHING to do with Blizzard. It's your fault you got demoted.



Ofcourse it does DOH!... The system change got me stuck in some imba twilight zone where i dont belong HENSE matchmaking system fails....for days i was matched with 10x better people, didnt matter if my mmr dropped, still was stuck there.
tReaper
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia90 Posts
April 16 2012 03:09 GMT
#211
On April 13 2012 15:41 niteReloaded wrote:
This would be a perfectly good adition to the personal options....
"I don't mind playing weaker opponents" [ ]
"I don't mind playing stronger opponents" [X]

Sure, it would only work in cases where the weak and strong are looking for each other, but things like that make the service better.


This fellow is on to something here!
Treat others the way you would like to be treated yourself. ^_^
memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
April 16 2012 03:25 GMT
#212
On April 16 2012 12:09 tReaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 15:41 niteReloaded wrote:
This would be a perfectly good adition to the personal options....
"I don't mind playing weaker opponents" [ ]
"I don't mind playing stronger opponents" [X]

Sure, it would only work in cases where the weak and strong are looking for each other, but things like that make the service better.


This fellow is on to something here!


This would skew the win rate depending on which options the player chooses.
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
April 16 2012 04:40 GMT
#213
On April 13 2012 15:41 niteReloaded wrote:
This would be a perfectly good adition to the personal options....
"I don't mind playing weaker opponents" [ ]
"I don't mind playing stronger opponents" [X]

Sure, it would only work in cases where the weak and strong are looking for each other, but things like that make the service better.


great suggestion for something that should be added but will never be added cus its....well blizzard
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
April 16 2012 04:49 GMT
#214
Glad about the change. Played my first game in 3 months a few days ago, and got horribly dominated even though I had a surprisingly good game. It was only afterwards that I found out I played a gm player on a huge win streak. Was wondering how after 3 months of being absent, my MMR managed to pair me against someone of this caliber.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
ePdeLay
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia220 Posts
April 16 2012 06:32 GMT
#215
i got some diamond players constanty cheesing me so gay
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
April 16 2012 06:39 GMT
#216
I really wish the game would show what league your opponent was in rather than just the vague "opponent is slightly favored" and etc we currently have.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
ZRand
Profile Joined September 2011
38 Posts
April 16 2012 08:06 GMT
#217
Hmm I didn't even get to experience this trial.
Nallen
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom134 Posts
April 16 2012 10:20 GMT
#218
Is this why I've got utterly crushed since the start of season 7, with the exception of a couple of people so bad I thought they were in placement?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
April 17 2012 04:08 GMT
#219
Damn no wonder lol. I didn't ladder until after it was reverted >.< I wanted to see what it was like playing vs some GMs lol.


On April 13 2012 15:41 niteReloaded wrote:
This would be a perfectly good adition to the personal options....
"I don't mind playing weaker opponents" [ ]
"I don't mind playing stronger opponents" [X]

Sure, it would only work in cases where the weak and strong are looking for each other, but things like that make the service better.



Wow nice idea, I wonder why they don't do it? (well maybe that's obvious, they're busy and still have a lot of other things to implement xD)
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TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
April 17 2012 17:27 GMT
#220
I didn't mind the changes....
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
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