"e-Sports Federation" formed by SC2 teams - Page 25

On April 01 2012 01:51 Poduh wrote:
unfortunately this should probably have been done roughly a year ago, when current sc2 scene had all the leverage. Now that Kespa is in direct talks with Blizzard, the current scene freaks out and has to react. Too late, Kespa will once again gain dominance in Korea in my mind.

On April 01 2012 02:05 Beakyboo wrote:
Honestly I think you could do a much better job communicating the point of this. It seems mostly defensive to me if anything, like you're worried about Kespa suddenly taking over the scene if you don't all band together to make something comparable.

If Kespa remains completely self contained then I really don't see them exerting that kind of influence over the scene, considering they're starting out with no established SC2 players. Hell, if they're self contained then people are going to care even less because it will be difficult to compare them to the current established players. Not that I'm suggesting they'll do poorly, just I'm not sure this sort of reaction is necessary.

On April 01 2012 02:10 Wockets wrote:
Gaah ST coach leading this one again?
IIRC he was the one who caused the TSL FD and Tester scandal with SC2Con, I could be wrong though.

On April 01 2012 02:12 Forikorder wrote:

FD and tester had a scandal with SC2con?

On March 31 2012 16:26 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I don't understand this sentiment about foreigners getting "locked out" due to kespa's sudden rise to influence. I think this idea of gomtv championing the foreigner cause is one that is wrongly made. The only reason why gomtv bothers with the foreign scene at all is because that's where the money is at. Starcraft 2 is pretty dead in Korea and BW dying a slow death. Even if BW fans suddenly become assimilated into SC2 (and that's a BIG if) that doesn't change the fact that Korea will eventually never be able to support a large starcraft scene on its own, like it has in the past. In short, Kespa NEEDS foreigners to have starcraft be viable.

What many people don't realize is that the youth culture is vastly different in Korea than what it was over a decade ago. More so than ever before, you have a veritable army of pop icons dictating to kids how they should be living, and this new pop culture is one that frowns upon staying home and playing computer games. Seoul is a city that never sleeps and the night life in Korea has only gotten better, as well as becoming even more accessible to Korean youth. This is compounded by the fact that alcohol is dirt cheap (no $8 dollar 12oz beers there, try a 2$ bottle of soju instead). 18 is the legal age to drink and is very loosely enforced. I've drank on a couple of occasions with 15-16 year old kids masquerading as adults, not that they really needed do much masquerading to begin with. More people aren't playing Starcraft because there is simply other stuff for kids to do nowadays to spend their time. I think this is the reason why more casual social (rather than highly competitive) games are rising to prominence, Koreans are transforming into more social creatures...

On April 01 2012 02:15 Wockets wrote:

Yeah the one where both of them left TSL and a lot of stuff happened.
Not sure if the ST coach was to blame

On April 01 2012 02:15 Wockets wrote:

Yeah the one where both of them left TSL and a lot of stuff happened.
Not sure if the ST coach was to blame

On April 01 2012 02:47 eYeball wrote:


I think the person to blame was FD and Tester, ST coach simply believed them although they were wrong all along.

On April 01 2012 02:26 malady wrote:


this post times ten

I have many exchange student friends come to UCF
hell I'm in the Korean club with them
They all love western culture don't even mention starcraft they are embarrassed of it

On March 31 2012 16:26 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I don't understand this sentiment about foreigners getting "locked out" due to kespa's sudden rise to influence. I think this idea of gomtv championing the foreigner cause is one that is wrongly made. The only reason why gomtv bothers with the foreign scene at all is because that's where the money is at. Starcraft 2 is pretty dead in Korea and BW dying a slow death. Even if BW fans suddenly become assimilated into SC2 (and that's a BIG if) that doesn't change the fact that Korea will eventually never be able to support a large starcraft scene on its own, like it has in the past. In short, Kespa NEEDS foreigners to have starcraft be viable.

What many people don't realize is that the youth culture is vastly different in Korea than what it was over a decade ago. More so than ever before, you have a veritable army of pop icons dictating to kids how they should be living, and this new pop culture is one that frowns upon staying home and playing computer games. Seoul is a city that never sleeps and the night life in Korea has only gotten better, as well as becoming even more accessible to Korean youth. This is compounded by the fact that alcohol is dirt cheap (no $8 dollar 12oz beers there, try a 2$ bottle of soju instead). 18 is the legal age to drink and is very loosely enforced. I've drank on a couple of occasions with 15-16 year old kids masquerading as adults, not that they really needed do much masquerading to begin with. More people aren't playing Starcraft because there is simply other stuff for kids to do nowadays to spend their time. I think this is the reason why more casual social (rather than highly competitive) games are rising to prominence, Koreans are transforming into more social creatures...

On April 01 2012 03:11 trollbone wrote:


So they are embarassed about their culture ??

felisconcolori: "ANYWAYS.

Back on the actual topic.

Will the new e-Sports Federation be setting up its own website, domain, forums, etc.- give community a chance to interact with it and act as a central hub of sorts for not only team to team communication and planning, but also as a possible outlet for fans to learn more about the teams or engage the teams themselves? (Even if, maybe, there's only a brief bit of information and then a link out to the team's site.)
Again, I'm thinking in terms of major sports organizations in the US - where, for example, if I don't happen to know the Bruins' website, I can always go to the NHL's website and find it from there.

(Yeah, yeah, TL is pretty much that for a lot of nerds - even if you aren't a fan of Team Liquid, you still come here. And TLPD seems to be used by EVERYONE.)"